How To: Swapping miata torsen LSD into N/A FC diff housing
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How To: Swapping miata torsen LSD into N/A FC diff housing
Well, while I am doing this for myself, I decided to make a write-up for anyone esle that may be interested in doing this. First off, I would like to say that I am by no means an expert, so if anyone has any comments or anything else they would like to ad, you are more than encouraged to do so. OK, so lets get started. First well take a look at the 94+ Miata rear end. You will see ten 12mm bolts circling the outside of the diff. You will start by removing these bolts.
Once the differential is open, this is what you will be looking at. You will then continue by removing the four 12mm bolts that hold down the bearing guides, as well as the 10mm bolts on the top of them
After that is removed, the LSD and the ring gear will pull right out. This is what you will have
Now you will be removing the ring gear from the LSD unit. It is held on by the ten 14mm bolts on the outer ring of the LSD. You will need an impact gun to remove these, they are on there extrodinarily tight. Once you have unbolted all ten bolts, the ring gear will be able to be removed from the LSD unit. You will mst likely need to tap it off with a hammer (gently) as it is a tight fit. Once you have removed the gear, this is what you will be left with.
Now, you will repeat the process exactly for the FC differential. Once you get the ring gear off of your old FC Limited slip, it is time to install it onto the miata torsen LSD. Just slide it on, and torque all of the ten 14mm bolts down to the proper spec, and in proper sequence (can be found is FSM) Now you will have your FC ring gear onto the Miata torsen LSD. Now, its time to re-install the LSD into the FC housing. If your bearing guides and caps have become seperated, like this
they will need put back together. The bearing guide slides inside of the cap, and the outer holder then threads into the side of the bearing retainer. It should look like this when together
Now that you have the empty FC housing
Its time to set in the torsen LSD and your FC ring gear assembly. Set in in place so that the bearing guides line up, with the bearing being inside of the retainer, and you can bolt it down to the proper spec.
Now would be a good time to get a new gasket , or silicone the differential housings, and then reinstall the two pieces of the housings back together, and you are done!
Once the differential is open, this is what you will be looking at. You will then continue by removing the four 12mm bolts that hold down the bearing guides, as well as the 10mm bolts on the top of them
After that is removed, the LSD and the ring gear will pull right out. This is what you will have
Now you will be removing the ring gear from the LSD unit. It is held on by the ten 14mm bolts on the outer ring of the LSD. You will need an impact gun to remove these, they are on there extrodinarily tight. Once you have unbolted all ten bolts, the ring gear will be able to be removed from the LSD unit. You will mst likely need to tap it off with a hammer (gently) as it is a tight fit. Once you have removed the gear, this is what you will be left with.
Now, you will repeat the process exactly for the FC differential. Once you get the ring gear off of your old FC Limited slip, it is time to install it onto the miata torsen LSD. Just slide it on, and torque all of the ten 14mm bolts down to the proper spec, and in proper sequence (can be found is FSM) Now you will have your FC ring gear onto the Miata torsen LSD. Now, its time to re-install the LSD into the FC housing. If your bearing guides and caps have become seperated, like this
they will need put back together. The bearing guide slides inside of the cap, and the outer holder then threads into the side of the bearing retainer. It should look like this when together
Now that you have the empty FC housing
Its time to set in the torsen LSD and your FC ring gear assembly. Set in in place so that the bearing guides line up, with the bearing being inside of the retainer, and you can bolt it down to the proper spec.
Now would be a good time to get a new gasket , or silicone the differential housings, and then reinstall the two pieces of the housings back together, and you are done!
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excellent writeup! maybe this will be another thing i will do over winter..
where can i find specs on a miata LSD (ratio, etc? that changes along with the new internals right)? how will i know i've found exactly what i need? this works on any s4 diff? or just the LSD from an s4?
where can i find specs on a miata LSD (ratio, etc? that changes along with the new internals right)? how will i know i've found exactly what i need? this works on any s4 diff? or just the LSD from an s4?
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Originally posted by Black13B
excellent writeup! maybe this will be another thing i will do over winter..
where can i find specs on a miata LSD (ratio, etc? that changes along with the new internals right)? how will i know i've found exactly what i need? this works on any s4 diff? or just the LSD from an s4?
excellent writeup! maybe this will be another thing i will do over winter..
where can i find specs on a miata LSD (ratio, etc? that changes along with the new internals right)? how will i know i've found exactly what i need? this works on any s4 diff? or just the LSD from an s4?
The miata ring and pinion are the wrong lengths and sizes to use in the FC diff. assembly.
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Originally posted by Icemark
So what are you doing with the old fluid type LSD???
So what are you doing with the old fluid type LSD???
Originally posted by drago86
But will it work on non LSD S4's?
But will it work on non LSD S4's?
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I havent had a chance to re-install the diff yet, so I dont know how it feels. Hopefully good
And 2a+Ron, yes any N/A FC diff it will work in, the picture is actually a S5 diff that I am swapping it into (GTUs to be exact...4.3 + torsen, oh yea )
And 2a+Ron, yes any N/A FC diff it will work in, the picture is actually a S5 diff that I am swapping it into (GTUs to be exact...4.3 + torsen, oh yea )
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Originally posted by mac_dad6
so us turbo guys are sol?
so us turbo guys are sol?
And also on more thing that I had failed to mention. In the FSM it calls for you to set the backlash. I personally dont have the appropriate tools to do this, so I basically tried to eyeball it and make sure everything was level. (yes, I tried to eyeball .1mm.. ) So I will report back if I have any problems...