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Old 07-18-02 | 02:02 AM
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how many shots NOS can NA FC take?

i'm planning to get the ZEX kit, just wondering how many shots it will take safely..thanks
Old 07-18-02 | 02:30 AM
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You should be my friend....

I've run 100 lbs of N2O through my turbo at a 200 hp jetting. Still runs perfect.

Theoretically, the engine should wear as normal, so the number of shots should only be limited by normal engine wear. Also keep in mind that a 300 hp motor will wear faster than a 200 hp motor.

Other engine mods (esp. Fuel), and jetting also affect engine wear.

How much do you know about nitrous? Maybe you could shoot me a PM or an email, I'll hook you up with all the info you need to make an AWESOME set-up.

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Old 07-18-02 | 11:00 AM
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I've ran as much as a 150 shot on carbon apex seals. But i've heard as much as 200 on new steel 3mm apex seals. But you need the fuel to go with it! CJ
Old 07-18-02 | 11:22 AM
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Re: how many shots NOS can NA FC take?

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i'm planning to get the ZEX kit, just wondering how many shots it will take safely..thanks
I'd suggest you probably not use it in the first place. Sounds like you have very little knowledge of the subject. It's not 'how many shots', it's the size of the shot. Suposed to be horse power sizes, but not actual hp gain numbers. I dont know why they set it up like that. The "shot" is determined by the jet size.

ZEX is a company name. NOS is a company name. The actual gas is called Nitrious Oxide. The chemical name is N20. It is not called NOS.

You should go to your local auto parts store and buy the HP book on Nitrious. It's very informatative. You should do that before even thinking about installing it. Otherwise your probably going to find yourself pissed off and replacing your motor.

Just my suggestions here. :shrug:
Old 07-18-02 | 11:37 AM
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Nitrous thread responses always remind me of computers. If some says NIC card there obviously a moron. "It's NIC dumbass" Does it really matter what its called. I do agree with buying a book about it first and learn what it does exactly and all the good stuff. Good luck with the nitrous, I will be joining the ranks of nitrous users after payday. Muhahahaah
Old 07-19-02 | 08:54 PM
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Re: Re: how many shots NOS can NA FC take?

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I'd suggest you probably not use it in the first place. Sounds like you have very little knowledge of the subject. It's not 'how many shots', it's the size of the shot. Suposed to be horse power sizes, but not actual hp gain numbers. I dont know why they set it up like that. The "shot" is determined by the jet size.

ZEX is a company name. NOS is a company name. The actual gas is called Nitrious Oxide. The chemical name is N20. It is not called NOS.

You should go to your local auto parts store and buy the HP book on Nitrious. It's very informatative. You should do that before even thinking about installing it. Otherwise your probably going to find yourself pissed off and replacing your motor.
you probly go up to somebody and say..umm escuse me mister, but what size jets are you using with your nitrous oxide system in your vehicle

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Old 07-19-02 | 10:16 PM
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Re: Re: Re: how many shots NOS can NA FC take?

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i have little knowledge? look moron, all i wanna know is how many shots the rotary engine will take safely and YES thats how you say it..HOW-MANY-SHOTS

you probly go up to somebody and say..umm escuse me mister, but what size jets are you using with your nitrous oxide system in your vehicle
No meaning to be mean, but you are the one looking stupid here, not sonic. You have "little knowledge", and it is apparent.

The rotary, tuned properly, will take an INFINITE number of shots of nitrous oxide. There, I answered your question honetly. Happy now? Again, it is not the NUMBER of shots that determines engine life, more-so the SIZE of the shots.

And yes, what you should say is: "What size horsepower shots are you running?" which just happens to be determined by the jetting sizes. Funny how you were trying to be funny.

The best question to ask would be: "What size jetting are you running on the nitrous and fuel sides and under what base fuel pressures and retard do you exercise during nitrous oxide system engagement?"

Do you know anything about nitrous oxide? Hopefully you know more about it than you do english.

Plain and simple: I probably have the most experience with nitrous oxide on this forum, run the highest horsepower jettings on a street vehicle, and the most complex, safest, and tuned setup (unless someone else cares to speak out...), and it is obvious to me that you don't know what you're talking about. So don't insult people who are trying to help your ignorant *** out. Christ, even showing just a little civility and I could have helped your *** out, especially since I live less than 45 minutes away from you.

Good luck with your nitrous install. Lemme know if you need a hand picking up the pieces of your eccentric shaft off the road.

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Old 07-19-02 | 10:44 PM
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Re: Re: Re: how many shots NOS can NA FC take?

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i have little knowledge? look moron, all i wanna know is how many shots the rotary engine will take safely and YES thats how you say it..HOW-MANY-SHOTS


you probly go up to somebody and say..umm escuse me mister, but what size jets are you using with your nitrous oxide system in your vehicle
First of all, don't call me moron when you are coming on here asking stupid questions. How many NOS shots? Or as the topic says "shot NOS". It's "what size of shot" not "how many shots" also, thanks.

And yes, I would say something to that nature bucause I know what I'm talking about. I'm not some punk kid that just watched Fast and the Furious for the 100th time that day. And because of the movie wants to run NOS!

Listen, you obviously don't know what you are talking about here. It's aparent in your question and your response. I tried to help, and you insult me. So oh well I guess. Go ahead... run a 10 million shots NOSes on your car. If you ask for help and advice be ready to get a response. I'm not going to baby some one who doesn't know what they are talking about :shrug: Have a good time w/ your car.

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Old 07-19-02 | 11:16 PM
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Can't stop laughing!

Okay, I know nothing about nitrous ('cept it makes you laugh). What good books would any of you recommend?
Old 07-19-02 | 11:37 PM
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Can't stop laughing!

Okay, I know nothing about nitrous ('cept it makes you laugh). What good books would any of you recommend?
They actually poisen (add something rather) to the automotive stuff so you can't use it for "other" purposes.

Book? Hmm, you know those little HP books you can buy at auto parts stores? That's where I got mine. Have one on Fiberglass, Superchargers/Turbochargers, Nitrious, and Honda building (yeah yeah, I know. I'll read engine info on anything though!)

I forget the exact name. You should be able to find it however. I know Summit Racing sells those books too.
Old 07-19-02 | 11:48 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: how many shots NOS can NA FC take?

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Plain and simple: I probably have the most experience with nitrous oxide on this forum...
In the FC forum probably, but Judge Ito loves nitrous and has built a few 8 second cars with it


Originally posted by Sonic
They actually poisen (add something rather) to the automotive stuff so you can't use it for "other" purposes.
They add sulfur to it to make you sick if you huff it.
Old 07-19-02 | 11:57 PM
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They add sulfur to it to make you sick if you huff it.
Sulfur dioxide, actually. Just sulfur would clog the jetting, but I know you knew that. I just don't want anyone thinking they can huff it if they put a filter on it to keep out the sulfur sediment.

Some people would try it...
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Sulfur dioxide, actually. Just sulfur would clog the jetting, but I know you knew that. I just don't want anyone thinking they can huff it if they put a filter on it to keep out the sulfur sediment.

Some people would try it...
Oops. Trying to type one handed and tend to a baby at the same time bit me in the ***
Old 07-20-02 | 12:03 AM
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Can't stop laughing!

Okay, I know nothing about nitrous ('cept it makes you laugh). What good books would any of you recommend?
First Hand knowledge (use it), talking to racers, and "SA Design Nitrous Oxide Injection": $15.95 through summit racing.

There's so much rotary/nitrous BS on here. I think its about time for a write-up, hopefully as thorough as my engine removal write-up.
Old 07-20-02 | 02:25 AM
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Got a Zex kit for sale if anyone wants it..$300 Shipped..Let me know...
Old 07-20-02 | 02:38 AM
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how long would a 50 wet shot last on these motors? I would guess the motor could handle that easily...... I am thinkin about doin that for my final mod to the car. more of a fun factor than anything else.
Old 07-20-02 | 04:07 AM
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Sean, you ever go to the track with your car? I would like to know what kind of times that thing would run. Also I have always wondered about filling those tanks .. you swap them out? or do you stop somwhere and get them filled? what does it cost .. and how often do you have to fill them?
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I just had one of my 1:30 AM deep thoughts. Do you have to run premix with a nitrous setup? The OMP is throtle position based (I think) So it has no way of knowing you about to dump a 100hp shot of gas into the motor ... therefore it seems to me your housings would be way under oiled while your Nitrious is firing.

Y/N?
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I have wet 50 shot on my T2, and damn it goes! my awnser is ............ummm.......... 7 shots!(JK?)
Old 07-20-02 | 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by FC3AZ
how long would a 50 wet shot last on these motors? I would guess the motor could handle that easily...... I am thinkin about doin that for my final mod to the car. more of a fun factor than anything else.
Depending on how your car is set up and what's done to it you wouldn't need to do a wet system. Wet systems are kinda spendy too. Not really worth it for a 50 shot.

If anything, get ZEX. Cheap, easy install, simple, and pretty safe for the most part. :thumbs-up:
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i have an 86 n/a with a bunch of stuff done and i also have the ZEX nitrous kit installed and i love it i run a 75 shot consistantly with no problems so i say go with the zex and kick some *** with it, i hope your motor isnt too worn out thouth my block is a rebuild and it has about 25,000 miles on it and it runs fast and strong dont listen to all these people who dont know about nitrous, you will want to get kit #82011thats the one i have nitrous is the ****. hope i could help.
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man, you guys really need to drive a car that has a decent shot of nitrous on it, and that attitude will shape right up. my friend had a 2000 Auto Tiburon with cone intake, and 65 dry shot. He ran 14.8's at the track all night long, with like 2.7 60' times. He never got traction in first gear with it. Ever since then, my viewpoint on nitrous has changed a lot. I think its cool, personally.

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Old 07-20-02 | 09:48 PM
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i cant seem to find a kit for any RX7 well a ZEX kit anyways
Old 07-20-02 | 10:41 PM
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i cant seem to find a kit for any RX7 well a ZEX kit anyways
They are universal dude.... They don't make application specific kits. ZEX kits are sooo simple to use and install.



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