Rued

Exactly everyone HERE knows it. Not everyone else on the street. To everyone else its "Hey what car is that?", so its one thing to say my car is a TII and its not, and its another to have a TII hood and let people know HERE that its not.

My car came with it, so I guess I'm rice. But realistically dude its just a badass looking hood. Its like having a reverse cowl to me.

With this attitude the only thing not rice is not doing a thing to your car. I don't understand why it would disturb anyone that someone has a TII hood if they just got it not to say ITS TURBO, but instead because they personally liked it better.

1987RX7guy

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Just because people are ignorant to the fact doesn't make it less of a posser mod. Many people don't know what 4X4 is but if I take that tag and slap it on my truck because I like having emblems on it its still stupid and posing. If you didn't like the stock look of your car you should have bought another model or another car all together.

DRFT 7

god damn people i dont know what your problem is. Putting s5 tails on a s4 is not rice. a TII hood on a NA is not rice. And who the **** cares about what you think really. to each his own if rued likes having a TII hood on his car let him you have no right to tell anyone its rice.

1987RX7guy

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Hey guys help me put Z3 fender vents on my FC. According to this guy it isn't rice.


Pretending to be something your not IS and always will be rice.

BlackIceGuitar

arg. Just go with a solid aluminum hood...

Rued

Actually thats quite different. A tag has the sole purpose to inform people of a vehicle having 4X4 which is why I said earlier about putting a turbo sticker on a car w/o turbo would be intentional posing.

While a hood is just something we as a community know how to tell the visual difference of each model. If TII had different mirrors would it be rice to put TII mirrors on a non turbo?

And btw when the FC was new, it was quite a distinction between SE model and GXL model price wise. Just like there is a gap between GXL and TII theres quite a gap between SE and GXL.

Now to address people being illinformed, but still adequate to argue its rice. If one were to know no one would care that you had a TII hood, and no one would even understand what a RX7...then how would having a TII hood really be implying you have in fact a TII unless you understood there difference between TII and other models.

And since a lot of people who are serious about modifications get a fmic anyways they end up ditching the hood. So really the hood itself isn't as dramatic of a statement as it used to be.

It'd be a fallacy to say that your arguement is wrong on the reason of you being predispositioned to do so because of the likelihood that you in fact do have a TII and don't like others to be assosiated with your model.
So I won't state that as the conclusion. Doesn't mean its a unsound arguement, just means its not a valid hypothesis.

DRFT 7

lol ******** like you are gonna bring this forum down one day.

mr i think i know everything about rice and i think im god because i can say whats rice and whats not rice but truly im only 19 and and a lil bitch at that.

i hope you blow a apex seal

Rued

Pretending to be a BMW is different between a say DX civic pretending to be a EX civic.

1987RX7guy

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whatch the flaming punk.

1987RX7guy

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but it doesn't say Z3 or BMW on the side so people won't know.

Rued

Actually its pretty common knowledge that Z3 fenders are BMW. Theres a big difference between the obscure and the commonly known even by girls that confuse my car with a porshe.

Also, if pretending to be something your not is rice then putting anything on a SE from a GXL, GXL from a TII is rice.

Correct?

BTW I took the time to search for the validity in your arguement, I'd appreciate if you'd not lower it to fits of sarcasm and address the issues.

1987RX7guy

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Ignorance is NO excuse!

Rued

And to address the original intent of this thread, if you can get your hands on a al hood then get it, if your hands on a tii hood then do so, doesn't matter if your looking for weight.

What ever is easier to find.

1987RX7guy

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Some things on different cars are the exact same peice. Such as say an 89 N/a temp guage and an 89 TII temp guage. They would be the same part. That isn't rice because there is no distinction between each part be it from an N/a or a TII or a GXL or a GTU or a GTUs. If there was proof of the TII hood doing a big performance boost for the N/a then I beleive that mazda would have put it on all the models. Given the fact that only the TII has it and on the TII it IS functional there is great reason to think it is worthless for an N/a to have a TII hood. There were N/a hoods made of aluminum for the verts and other models. That would not be rice on an N/a without an AL hood because it is neither outwardly aparant that it came from a higher end model or can you use it to pose as one. And I don't know what kind of search you needed to do. To me its a simple way of thinking. If you pose as another model then your a ricer be it posing as an S5 with your S4 or posing as a porsche with your civic. Posing is posing.

Rued

Well summed up point, but if a TII hood was avaliable instead of a steel hood a person should not do it just because of worrying what someone else would think?

Because that seems to be your only arguement, someone will think your TII so you shouldn't do it? Is that the best way to sum up what your saying?

Posing is pretending with the intention on fooling people versus personnal perference which is doing something because you (KEYWORD, YOU) want it.

So I can also go with your personnal preference of you wouldn't change anything visual on your car?

I can respect your opinion, I don't see why you would offend other people by doing stuff to their car which has no negative effect.

The TII hood has no negative effect other then pissing you off, thus I shouldn't use it. To sum it all up.

Its only rice if the original intent was not furfilled because of lack of knowledge of the modification. I would see it more as a wing on a FWD, as opposed to a Civic with z3 fenders. I always acquianted rice with a lack of knowledge of what you are actually doing to your car instead of me PERSONALLY being displeased with the aesthetics of your vehicle.

The TII is a performance improvement if you were going from steel to TII, and I think thats just cased closed.

And thanks for keeping it to a simple difference of opinion. I'm not here to make personnal attacks, just the issue.

HAILERS

***one i found is aluminum my origonal hood is metal **

I can't quite put my finger on it.....but there's something wrong with those words/concept.

But hey, buy the turbo hood. The stock hood is made out of an elephants butt, except heavier. My 86 na has one of those elephant butt hoods and it's a pain in the behind. Mazda had to work at it to make a hood that heavy. I suspect they did it for a reason. The reasons up in the air so to speak. Bottom line, buy the aluminium hood.

And as for the hinges etc......ooops, I forgot to trade the hinges etc when I swapped hoods with another persons car. Somehow I think I'll be rid of this car long before it rots thru. Oh, and I don't slam the hood down so no dents/bumps/ swelling/distortion.

And while in a raggity *** mood...... if someone does not like na to turbo swaps, just ask me someday what I think of people who rip out the airpump and acv or the twit on the other forum who posted a picture of the solenoid resistor and asked it he should remove it or not. And furthermore...........-, ]04398riv-]

1987RX7guy

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Santiago

Rued

Can you post proof of the negative effects? I'd like to see them.

I already addressed wings on Civics. I said it was rice.

Didn't you last say pretending to be something your not is ricey, now being tacky is ricey. Being tacky is having bad taste, being ricey is not understanding the modications you did and why it hurts you.

Tasteful is subjective, some people might see changing wings from model to model is ricey like you say changing the lights from s4 to s5. Keep that in mind.

You just stated a personnal preference about the wings, stock vs stock. So someone could argue you are being "ricey" because your pretending to be something your not.

Come on man, just because you personally wouldn't do it doesn't make it ricey.

1987RX7guy

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You forgot to read the part where GXL's came with both the GTU style wing and the Sport style wing FROM THE FACTORY!!!!!!!!!!!! It can't be rice if they came with it. My TII is missing its wing. But its the same wing as the other S5's so if I take the wing off of an S5 GXl its not different than an S5 TII wing. get it? its the same peice.

PureSephiroth

this thread looks familiar... oh yeah, there have been 10 others EXACTLY like this! Go find the "TII hood on NA, RICE????" thread and read that. This is as worthless as a CF spoiler on an Integra.

Rued

Honestly your post was rather hard to use because the quote tags didn't show up very well. I have a thing with reduncy so I didn't want to read the entire thing to just find what you said versus what I said.

Just out of curiousity if it was just a little difference would it be rice?

And to address someone else, naw this just came up outta the blue.

Icemark

No flaming... Your comments are unacceptable.

Rued

Well Santiago, it was nice doing this. I really hope I at least lead to you to someone believe that perhaps its not ricey, its just that you don't like it.

I'm kinda getting tired of doing this now. Your not really going to listen to me, so theres no point in even trying to find a common ground.

- Denki

Icemark

Flaming in this thread has closed it