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Old 11-09-04, 08:06 PM
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Basically, im trying to build a highway monster. Here is what my car is and has.

1990 RX-7 Turbo II, Streetport, 3mm apex seals, 62-1 Ball Bearing Turbo, Spearco FMIC, HKS wastegate, HKS manifold, HKS BOV, downpipe, midpipe, RE Amemiya exhaust, Koyo Radiator, Haltech E6K, ACT six puck clutch, 17in RSI wheels, 1600cc secondaries, Nippon-Denso Fuel Pump, FPR, MSD ignition, NGK Race Plugs, Tokico shocks, battery in back, GReddy gauges, Apex-i AVC-R, MS short shifter, and the mod that adds the most power, the GReddy shift ****.

I plan on getting some bigger primary injectors, FD upper intake manifold, bigger Greddy R-SPL Intercooler, Bridgeport, and T88 turbo. What kind of power should I be making with these modifications added to my existing mods. I would like to hit around 700, what other mods should I be considering.

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im not sure on what numbers youd be hitting, but from everything ive ever read t88=big numbers. that thing is gonna be a monster no doubt.
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The setup is capable of over 500HP..... I don't see 700.... BUT... if you are going for that much HP... I'd ditch the Koy
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700? geez man.. BOOM!!! thought about going with the 13B-RE ??
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/13b-re.html
i dont suppose youre near DFW are you? i know Don Marvel (Marvelspeed) has built some HIGH end engines. if you're really serious about it and have the funds, you may want to talk to him. Marvelspeed is based out of Rowlett.
if i wanted 700hp that would last, i'd seriously consider the 20B. hate for you to go through all that trouble and grenade the engine. maybe 550.
what drivetrain (tranny back) would you run? 400 max tq can kill a T2 tranny. at least i know of one it happened to and it wasnt racing at the time. i believe he was cruising when it happened.
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i have been considering the 13B-RE, but the 20B is out of the question, too much money. Im going to do all of the labor myself, with the help of Turbo II FC, i want to do something like what Soul Assassin had. I really dont care about drag racing, i just like highway racing. Im trying to do everything as affordable as possible.

The main issue of course is going to be cost. Im get about $400 a week to throw in the car, and am trying to do something new every week. How much do 13B-RE's cost? I might buy a blown motor, and just sell my running one. How much better is the 13B-RE, I have seen the ports, and they are huge!

Oh, and im going to ditch the koyo for a Ron Davis, and prolly do a custom V-mount, I would like to have everything done by June. Right now, I am focusing on looks. Im getting a Feed front lip, R Magic spoiler, M-Sports hood with louvers, and the RE Amemiya mirrors. I want to keep it simple and clean on the outside, paint the car, then go nuts on the motor. Im going to take out anything that is not neccesary, A/C, powersteering, heater, everything. Install a rollcage, 2 Bride seats, 2 Takata harness', fully gut the interior.

I have BIG plans for the car, and nothing else to spend my money on!
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oh, and I hate to say it, but i will hardly ever drive this car. I just want to beat some of the 1000 hp supras on the highway, and a few busa's
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actually, after reading about the 13B-RE, i will definitly consider it, how much power would I be looking at with T88, big IC, Bridgeport, and all of the other things I mentioned
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a good car to look at, for power numbers, is Carlos Gonzalez's drag car. i know you aren't draggin,' but they're numbers. i have a bean burrito in my lap, so i'm makin this fast and then i'll post more. his car made "upwards of 900whp at 8600rpm redline."
first and foremost:
13B-RE; 8.5 compression rotors; Turbonetics Y2K 81mm turbo.

i'll post more in a minute. where in texass are you ??
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okay, i'll list the important stuff.

13B-RE (on METHANOL)
Turbonetics Y2K 81mm slug
(soon to be recipient) Air-to-Liquid Turbonetics Intercooler
(unused) Nitrous Express Single Stage System (for spooling)
G & S Custom Exhaust Manifold
4" Exhaust

G-Force GF-2000 Clutchless Five-Speed Transmission
McLoud Steel Pressure Plate; Twin-Disc Clutch and Seven-Inch Flywheel
Nine Inch Ford Rear with Strange Diff (4:56) Richmond Gears

A Pair of Fuel Pumps (Ron's and Paxton)
SX Fuel Pressure Regulator
Two 7-AL-2; two 6AL-2 MSD Ignitions

Griffin Aluminum Radiator
Moroso Electric Water Pump

i have no idea what port he runs, the article failed to mention it. if you're aiming for 700hp, you're going to need a better tranny. i may be preaching to the choir, but i'm just sayin.
i also have no idea what his boost is set at. with a T88 and a bridgeport, 20-30 PSI should make for some huge numbers. frankly, i'd be scared of the car.
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Originally Posted by casio
a good car to look at, for power numbers, is Carlos Gonzalez's drag car. i know you aren't draggin,' but they're numbers. i have a bean burrito in my lap, so i'm makin this fast and then i'll post more. his car made "upwards of 900whp at 8600rpm redline."
first and foremost:
13B-RE; 8.5 compression rotors; Turbonetics Y2K 81mm turbo.

i'll post more in a minute. where in texass are you ??
ive seen his car in person and talked to him...... all streetability of that motor was thrown out the window..... but wow.... what a motor! the whole front of the motor was fabbed! you fill the oil in the oil pump housing, not the center plate anymore...the whole water neck housing is gone, no water pump housing, just a plate bolted to the water inlet to the motor w/ steel braided lines going to the electric water pump... its kinda funny.... but the motor is only street ported.... not what youd expect from a drag car!
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Originally Posted by casio
okay, i'll list the important stuff.

13B-RE (on METHANOL)
Turbonetics Y2K 81mm slug
(soon to be recipient) Air-to-Liquid Turbonetics Intercooler
(unused) Nitrous Express Single Stage System (for spooling)
G & S Custom Exhaust Manifold
4" Exhaust

G-Force GF-2000 Clutchless Five-Speed Transmission
McLoud Steel Pressure Plate; Twin-Disc Clutch and Seven-Inch Flywheel
Nine Inch Ford Rear with Strange Diff (4:56) Richmond Gears

A Pair of Fuel Pumps (Ron's and Paxton)
SX Fuel Pressure Regulator
Two 7-AL-2; two 6AL-2 MSD Ignitions

Griffin Aluminum Radiator
Moroso Electric Water Pump

i have no idea what port he runs, the article failed to mention it. if you're aiming for 700hp, you're going to need a better tranny. i may be preaching to the choir, but i'm just sayin.
i also have no idea what his boost is set at. with a T88 and a bridgeport, 20-30 PSI should make for some huge numbers. frankly, i'd be scared of the car.
wow, i dont plan on going that far into it, but now I really want the 13B-RE, and the Y2K turbo is a beast.

Thanks for the info, im just a fan of the wangan (IE Upper Deck in Austin)

Im in South Austin
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i wanna turbo or a super chargere the size of a semi lol
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Originally Posted by tecknomage
i wanna turbo or a super chargere the size of a semi lol
they really aren't "too" big. look for Schwitzer (S300) and one that starts with an H; slipped my mind. Holeshot?? i'm not sure. also, the fact that the engine is around 13liters on big diesels doesn't hurt. diesel fuel is, i believe, the most powerful fuel. if there's something more powerful, i'm not sure what it is (nitromethane, alcohol, methanol aren't; they make more power than gas because of stoich ratings [i believe thats worded correctly]).

Originally Posted by vipers
all streetability of that motor was thrown out the window
yea, i was simply using it as a power reference. hopefully the bridgeport with gas will offset carlo's streetport on meth. also, antirice is lookin for 200 less horsepower. i'm not sure how "streetable" 700hp on a T88 would be, but its this man's goal and i think it sounds monsterous (in a good way).
i'm sure carlos had his reasons for going streetport, but i'd like to hear them.

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Old 11-10-04, 09:21 AM
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25k should get you 500rwhp pretty easy. I would think 700 would be above 30k. But I know what you are saying about highway racing I love it to. Racing on local streets is cool but dangerous. Highway is a little safer but yes the supra's walk away from most on these races. Also someone posted above "use 4.56 gears". Damn you would have to take off in third because you would just spin your tires up into 5th gear with short gears like that and 700hp. I would go down to 3.73 and you could hit 200mph at redline.
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i didn't say to use 4:56, i was listing Carlos Gonzalez's DRAG RACING setup.
with $25K, i'm sure i could afford to build two 500whp cars. but i guess i should keep my *** shut and talk out of my mouth until i actually have a 500hp 2-rotor or see a definate parts list.
i don't know how far you plan to go with this. most friendly rotary talking i've done with builders/knowledgable rotary enthusiasts has dealt with 400-500+ whp. i understand a 20B being more expensive, but it has the reliability. theres X amount of extra steps to be taken to make such power; i would assume the 20B may hold up better. i really don't know. this is getting very technical and i don't have the knowledge, understanding, experience or expertise. i'm just trying to be of help.
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