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Old 06-19-10, 08:58 AM
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Question Help with these two lines..s5 motor na

Well i finally found my vacuum leaks but i have no idea where the nipple needs to be connected its right under the LIM pointing down, right behind towards the firewall..its where the arrow is pointing in the pic, it has a lot of suction (vacuum)... wondering where it goes heres the first one. first pic its just so you know where its at dont mind the circled part just the arrow and the 2n pic is the actual nipple.

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Looks like the one that goes to the brake booster. Should be a hardline on the firewall within and inch or two of that nipple that runs to the brake booster.

I could be wrong.
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the prong sensor is for your intake air temp. sorry didn't see the vacuum port just below it.
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I'm going to assume from your pics that your car is an automatic and if that is the case then the item that is circled and on the front of the throttle body, which is the double throttle diaphragm, receives two of the hoses found in your second actual pic that depicts three hoses coming from a white plastic nozzle. Of the three hoses the one with the green/white valve in the 2nd pic goes to the connection which you highlighted with a red arrow. Most folks cap off the other two connections for the double throttle mechanism usually fails after all these years and would likely help your idling condition if capped.

Disclaimer: The above is based off the hose routing from an S4 auto which might be different then the S5.
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its an s5 motor in an s4 rx7 manual tranny
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Originally Posted by satch
I'm going to assume from your pics that your car is an automatic and if that is the case then the item that is circled and on the front of the throttle body, which is the double throttle diaphragm, receives two of the hoses found in your second actual pic that depicts three hoses coming from a white plastic nozzle. Of the three hoses the one with the green/white valve in the 2nd pic goes to the connection which you highlighted with a red arrow. Most folks cap off the other two connections for the double throttle mechanism usually fails after all these years and would likely help your idling condition if capped.

Disclaimer: The above is based off the hose routing from an S4 auto which might be different then the S5.
Disregard the comments above until you verify that your car is an auto or not.
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its manual and if i put any vacuum line to these two nipples the car shuts off
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Originally Posted by 1sick13b
its manual and if i put any vacuum line to these two nipples the car shuts off
Are you aware if the car was formerly an auto and then changed over to a 5 speed? Thermo valves with three nipples were for autos while those with two nipples were for 5 speeds as shown on page 134 of the Haynes manual.

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To prove whether the car was an auto just check the double throttle diaphragm and see if it has one nozzle or two nozzles to it. One nozzle means 5 speed while two nozzles means automatic tranny.
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Taken from the S5 Factory Service Manual.

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i have one hose for the diaphram but three hoses for the thermo
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If this is the case, then it's likely your thermovalve was replaced with a triple nozzle instead of the double nozzle as a replacement. It's hard to see in the pic, but underneath your throttle body is there a nozzle like the one on your diaphragm. If not, then your throttle body is for a manual and it reinforces the notion that you have an extra thermovalve nipple. The vacuum created by the thermovalve should be the same across all three nipples so you can cap one off and use the remaining two. Also, in your pic with the arrow highlighting the large nozzle have you tried capping that nozzle as well?
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Originally Posted by satch
To prove whether the car was an auto just check the double throttle diaphragm and see if it has one nozzle or two nozzles to it. One nozzle means 5 speed while two nozzles means automatic tranny.
also the automatic double throtle diapram is bigger than 5speed. appears to have to diaprams where the 5 speed one has only the one
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Originally Posted by satch
If this is the case, then it's likely your thermovalve was replaced with a triple nozzle instead of the double nozzle as a replacement. It's hard to see in the pic, but underneath your throttle body is there a nozzle like the one on your diaphragm. If not, then your throttle body is for a manual and it reinforces the notion that you have an extra thermovalve nipple. The vacuum created by the thermovalve should be the same across all three nipples so you can cap one off and use the remaining two. Also, in your pic with the arrow highlighting the large nozzle have you tried capping that nozzle as well?
yes i have capped it off and it shuts off the car
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Did you check to see if you have a metal nozzle underneath the throttle body where the throttle plates are located?
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theres a vacuum line thats connected to one of the three nipples to a nipple under the throttle body
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