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Old 02-15-02 | 08:58 PM
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Question Help! Tein install

My Tein HA coilovers arrived today and the instructions are in Japanese. Anyone know where I might find them in English?

I've installed coilover on my Tundra so I'm sure I can figure it all out, but it would be nice to have the instructions so I don't miss anything. There is also a plastic peice in the kit that I know is for measuring something but no idea what or how to use.
Old 02-15-02 | 09:26 PM
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Well save yourself the trouble and let me install them for you. Just repack them in the original shipping container, send them to me next day air and I'll gladly install them for you for free!

Aren't there any pictures?
Old 02-15-02 | 10:00 PM
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Jaybr,
Unfortunately there aren't any english instructions, the diagrahms are resourceful so keep them. (Should have 11 pages)I can assist you...

first do you need the instuctions to assemble the dampers and springs, or do you need help on the removal of the stock set-up and replacement with the TEINS???

Second, did you get the optional "pillowball mounts"???

That green plastic piece is 90mm which the minimum height measurement allowed from the ground to the lowest point of the car.usuallythe exhaust system is the lowest point under the car. Basically if you were to take this piece and slide it in a sweepiing motionunder the entire car, it shouldn't hit any part of the vehicle.
That's too low for my taste so I don't come close to even consider using them other than as dividers in the drawers of my tool box.
Old 02-15-02 | 11:16 PM
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Dude I am thinking of getting the HE coilovers from them too...keep us posted about how good (or bad) it is...
Old 02-15-02 | 11:32 PM
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Thanks

I didn't get the pillow mounts, I'll be using stock. I don't need to worry about being to low, I only plan on dropping maybe 1"

I allready assembled the coils from the pictures and I have a manual if I need it to take off the stock ones. Like I said, I've installed coilovers on another vehicle so I can figure it out. I just wanted to make sure there weren't any special instruction steps that I may miss.

Also, any sugestions for a starting point on the dampening settings, I was thinking maybe 5 clicks up from the softest to start.
Old 02-16-02 | 04:26 AM
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I don't have the Tein instructions for the FC but do have some from other cars. The instructions seem to be all the same but just have different settings for different applications. If you look on page 8, left column, a diagrahm shows where and how to measure- to set the the lower spring seat height. Below this diagrahm are two boxes each containing a set of numbers. First box, is the front measurement the second box is the settings for the rear. With Teins I always add 5mm to their suggested starting points.

For the Damper settings, you'll see a diagrahm "soft and hard" on the same page but on the right side column. You have a total of 16 clicks to use do not go past 17 clicks even though it has up to 20 clicks.You start from the softest setting which is all the way left or counter clockwise. Again the numbers below the diagrahm are the suggested starting points. The first number given, on top is the amount of clicks you count while turning to the right or clockwise. The next number below is for the amount of clicks for the rear. Pretty simple, I probably made it sound more difficult than it is. I do suggest spraying some silicone on the spring seats while adjusting the spring preload,it make turning the collar
much easier.
Old 02-16-02 | 03:11 PM
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I got them installed and WOW! what a difference. I replaced the original struts and springs on an 88 GXL so you can imagine how bad they where. The install was no problem, alot easier than my truck. I set the dampening at 8 clicks all the way around and will adjust from there. I dropped the back down about an inch to level out the car but left the front where it was. And I used that plastic measuring thing and at the main cat, which looks like the lowest point under the car, and have over 1" to spare.
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CHeckout the JIC FLTA2's. That's what I got for mine. Twin tube shock design as opposed to the monotube Tein's.

15 way adjustable, custom valvable, and stocking interchangable spring rates. Also rebuildable and repairable in US. These retail at $1850.00. What do the HA's go for from where you got them?

The most important thing when installing coilovers is making sure that you just adequately preload the spring. You'll need to cornerweight the vehicle for this.

You need to know the total weight of the vehicle, spring rates front and rear, as well as the weight distribution of it. IF you don't have these, then I would not suggest just slapping them in.

Go to a shop that can corner weight the vehicle.

Rishie

If you got the JIC's I'd set them up for you and ship them preloaded. As I've already done it for mine.

I have one set FLTA2's and a second set of SF-1's.

These include pillowball mounts front and rear, as well as adjustable camber plates in the front.

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Old 02-16-02 | 05:58 PM
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I paid $1150 for them.

You've got me confused about the preload. The only way to adjust the preload would be to move the lower spring seat up or down the threads which would also adjust ride height, correct? I want to set it for the height.
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I forgot, I guess the HA's are like the SF-1's in that they don't have another collar to adjust the height from moving the shock body up and down. Hence, the inexpensive price.

Are those dampening adjustable or are they just height adjustable?

In that case, I would just install them and set them to an appropriate ride height. There's not too much more you can do with those.

Thanks, Rishie

The ones I was refferring to have a lower spring perch as well as another collar to adjust the height by raising or lowering the shock body, therefore retaining stroke movement.
Old 02-16-02 | 07:04 PM
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16 way adjustable dampening
Old 02-16-02 | 07:32 PM
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Choritsu,

Whats the little green thumbwheel tool thing for?
Old 02-16-02 | 08:54 PM
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Great, you got them in. Whether your originals were worn or new I think you would still be just as surprised. The HA's are considered, "entry level" and as ARD T2 has mentioned, do not offer the true height adjusting capability. For the price, I think is a much better combination compared to the typical Koni/GC, KYB/Eibach, Tokico/etc...that are available. The adjustment of the collar (spring seat) is really to adjust spring preload but indirectly affects the height. If you add more preload, it will raise the car to a point, but does stop while still being able to add even more preload. Going too low(less preload), reduces ride quality and control. I believe the 90mm height rule(green plastic thing) is because that is the minimum height allowed by law in Japan. The suspension will settle a bit, but just add more pre-load. Other than that, enjoy them, for you have made a wise choice.
Whats the little green thumbwheel tool thing for?
That's basically a allen wrench to adjust the damper settings, but it does magnify the clicks making it easier to count as you turn.

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