glhs0867

http://www.px3lubricants.com/DynoTests/


Do you think, it really works this good for $18.99?

dawicka2

No, i havent used it, but it looks like a shady *** 4 am infomercial. I would be very leary of dyno proven results. I have heard similar claims with other bs additives. Sellers dyno the car or truck cold on the 1st pull and record results. Car then get heated up, oil thins out and you get highter numbers for the shady pulls that follow. A pint of canola oil and my **** mixed at a 80/20 ratio will probably yeild the same results. I will sell you that for a little cheaper.

john

glhs0867

I seen the product dynoed on Horsepower TV..They poured it cold into the engine they had just dynoed..they got a good amount of power from just this additive.

The engine was a 383 C.I... carb setup..

Aaron Cake

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All additives are crap.

Most have been sued by the FTC such that they can't make any specific claims.

RotaryWeaponSE7EN

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looks like a rip off to me.

glhs0867

I hear what your saying, but how can't these additives not work?

How could I confirm anything works better than just oil? use a dyno like they did?

Aaron Cake

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Look it up on the FTC site.

If the additives were so good, they would already be in the very complex additive packages that oil and fuel manufacturers already supply with their product.

glhs0867

Yeah I read the FTC site..good info..but it seems FTC sues based off of things like if "Duralube" says you can run your engine for days with no oil...thats fine..I am not going to try it..but I don't where FTC said additives didn't helped with gas mileage, or decrease of oil temps..or added HP/TQ .....

Thats all I am saying..I was never looking for a magic solution to run the engine without oil..thats crazy talk..but why is it not possible to get lower oil temps, better performance, from these things? Can't you just add teflon and be done with it?

Acroy

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all these additives are only good as "personal lubricant"

rglbegl

I will be on the powertv dyno next month.
You wanna buy some of this stuff and I will try it out for you?

Aaron Cake

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Just consider how many tens of billions of dollars the oil makers each spend on developing their additive packages every year. If something miraculous could be done to the oil, it would be in the bottle from the factory.

As for Teflon, even Dupont says Teflon is not suitable for use in an engine. I believe they sued many additive makers who were advertising "PTFE" in their products.

http://www.skepdic.com/slick50.html

Also, grab the MSDS for most additives and look at the ingredients. Then grab the MSDS for your favourite brand of oil. You'll probably find that 90% of what is in the additive is in the oil already, and in far more appropriate quantities. The other 10% will be random waxes and other junk.

glhs0867

I can't agree. The oil company owners tend to be related to the owners of the car builders, etc. They ensure together our cars/engines and other parts are far past worn out before 200,000 "most times". This keeps all of them fat and sassy!


I have a book from Japan at the house and it clearly states the T2 engine has been designed from a molecular state of perspective to accept the Teflon sized molecules in the housings internal coatings, and hold it till releasing at given flash point in the housings. I will see, if I can somehow scan the book and pages..for all of us..

dawicka2

I am now selling my own version consisting of an 80/20 blend of canola oil and indian food water poop. $21.95 a quart............. dyno proven results. **** i just gave the special formula away. Um......14.95 a quart.

john ny

Aaron Cake

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Whatever. Clearly it's all a big conspiracy anyway or else we'd all have cars that run on water. Believe what you want, and use whatever you want in your own engine. As long as you don't go recommending it to other people then the only person you can hurt is yourself.

MazdaMike02

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Horsepower tv dyno tested a Charger SRT-8 they baselined it then added PX3 and saw an increase of like 11hp and 8 lb/ft of torque. If the company claims it does this and it doesn't thats called false advertising.

Aaron Cake

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PX-3 sponsored the show. They paid for whatever dyno results they wanted.

It's also trivially easy to make a dyno read whatever you want it to read by adjusting the correction factor.

Horsepower has a LONG history of ridiculous claims with their dyno.

They've tested a tonne of crap that independents have tested to show no benefit, yet the HP dyno is somehow magic.