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Old 04-17-08, 05:19 AM
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Gaugeing interest: intake.

So I have started my own shop and am getting clientel slowly but surely. I have been toying with starting to make my own products to but i dont want to just focus on the most popular cars out i want to do stuff for the cars that have a dedicated following and when you build something for a customer they start suggesting you as someone to turn to for that specific car.

Now here is the question I am interested in. I have been topying with the idea of full, low cost intake kits for the N/A FB, FC chassis carrying the 13b. I will not even bother with the 12a because racing beat has that on lock. I always see alot of people turning away from the N/A rotary because they dont have alot of aftermarket support. This is the reason my buddy cody sold his FB in trade for an integra. I figure with a few bolt ons to keep the N/A guy's happy that the community could grow and they would be able to feel more a part of the beauty that is the rotary.

when it all comes down to it how many of you N/A guys would like to see this kind of stuff happen and what kind of realistic performance gains would you like to see?
Old 04-17-08, 07:09 AM
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well so far i dont have any nay sayers and a few votes yes. if anyone dose have any critisisem on this please let me know. but please keep it tactful.
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let me tell you what i want to see...


if you look on corksport site they make an intake pipe that is 2 pieces. one is a straight adapter off the TB. The other is the curved piece that connects to the stock air box. I called them and they would not just sell me the straight piece by itself, they wanted me to buy the whole thing.. i said hell no! i would really like to see intakes that come over straight off the TB and all you would have to do is relocate the BB and you would be good to go... anyways, ya, that would be tight...

good luck with your shop man!
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I would def like to see this b/c im gonna be keeping my NA for a while. Are you going to try and make your own design or kinda copy someone else's? I would like to see what you can come up with. Good luck with your business too.
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well iv actually been thinking about that and have been toying with the ide of just making a elbow witch would get rid of alot of the restriction and be an even lower cost to alot of the youngsters in H.S. who Mc job it or to those that may just want to get a bit better mileage. that and a filter and adapter kit and bracket for either S5 or S4 that isnt just some random autozone crap.
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Originally Posted by fonzi581
I would def like to see this b/c im gonna be keeping my NA for a while. Are you going to try and make your own design or kinda copy someone else's? I would like to see what you can come up with. Good luck with your business too.
I already have a general idea for design if i was just out to copy somone for a fast buck... well you can call me ebay lol. No at first these will be built to order i plan on getting dyno numbers from base and with each of the added pices. also if I can fund a way to do it without cutting the car up i am willing to try making a cold air system. the only potential problem i see with this is the splash gaurd/diversion panel. but thats part of the fun of the R&D side of things is figureing it out.
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Originally Posted by DRFT_HRD
well iv actually been thinking about that and have been toying with the ide of just making a elbow witch would get rid of alot of the restriction and be an even lower cost to alot of the youngsters in H.S. who Mc job it or to those that may just want to get a bit better mileage. that and a filter and adapter kit and bracket for either S5 or S4 that isnt just some random autozone crap.
no kidding, i would eat that up...

the thing is, i want to make one myself, and have done it before, but i really want to get one that is made out of Aluminum that is thin walled and i dont have the capability to do that right now.


also, some kind of plastic shielding so seal it off, with a hood scoop, that would be a good setup, minimal restriction, and fresh air.
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Define "intake".
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I'd be interested in an intake, preferably something like the Apexi one but would fit a S4 with little to no modification.
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A word of warning, a lot of FC people tend to really want stuff, but when you make it, they don't seem to wanna really buy stuff.

Best of luck to you though!
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Originally Posted by evileagle
A word of warning, a lot of FC people tend to really want stuff, but when you make it, they don't seem to wanna really buy stuff.

Best of luck to you though!

I agree. It just extends straight off the throttle body it would be cool but I dont think there is enough room for it with ppl who still have their emissions on the car.
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please don't waste our time or your own , if you searched for intakes you'd realize that the stock one provides better performance than any aftermarket intake made for it previously and thats why no current companies produce one,

theres a huge amount of aftermarket parts out there, so i do not agree with you saying people sell there 7's becuase they can't find aftermarket stuff.

we're not ricers here don't try to sell us cheap ricer parts, unless you can afford to put actually money into research and development, it's no better than making a homedepot intake
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dont hate on the guy he is just tring to be creative. i say go for it man, na all the way
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Sounds awesome man! good luck with it!
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Well im not worried about people who want but dont buy because this is a make as i get order and money thing to begin with. as i have said before i do plan on proper R&D with dyno testing. I am not just gonna toss something together and say it adds hp without figuring out if it works properly. And why dose an intake make somone a ricer? I am not trying to be argumentative but it dose not I am in a hurry right now and will reply to more as I get time. thank you.

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making parts for FC's should be a very, very small part of your revenue and business plan if you want to stay in business at all.
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it is but it is something i was interested in doing having owned a N/A I know it can be hard to find parts at any sort of reasonable price. most of what i do is drivetrain work.
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bro you couldn't afford to do true R&d and also, i wouldn't expect to sell more than a handful total , rx7 owners are known for being poor.

why would you want to waste your time and money on something that provides no improvement?? thats rice to me .

and do you think on couple thousand dollar budget you could design a better intake than mazda did with millions???? mazda is not honda, don't think just because it is good for one, it is good for the other
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I said "yes," but did it with the assumption that you will put some legitimate research into this. Creating a good n/a intake is difficult; I hope you realize that.

Good luck with the shop!
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Call me the eternal pessimist, but as with 99.9% of these threads (the one exception being FIBREMAZ) this will go nowhere.
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I still have no idea which specific intake parts are supposed to be included in this thread. If the OP doesn't understand which parts make up an intake system and how they work, then I think he is better off not bothering with this project.

Anyway, disregarding any actual substance that may be added to this thread by the OP at a later date, I tend to agree with the masses that FC owners like to see lots of aftermarket parts offered for sale, but they can't afford them or are not willing to pay money for them.
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The best power bolt on for the buck to get power out of an NA...is a turbo...
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I think it sounds like a great idea i would make some for the turbo 2 also any parts are better than no parts
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my question, why put the air intake directly over the exhaust manifold? that makes no sense.

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well you can hop on ebay and get a brand new K&N cylinder filter with a "ported" heavy duty plastic AFM adapter and cork gasket for $50 shipped. Same deal for the S5 except its a cone filter and fits the s5 AFM. There's also the drop in for a little cheaper.

If you want to go the wheel well cutout route then you can get the first K&N kit then I think a prelude pipe (some kind of Honda) "CIA" hard pipe for $15 extra.

Some people want a cold air box which 99% of the time touches the radiator and/or upper hose and turns into a easy bake oven with a headlight scoop has the tiniest inlet.

Not to **** on your thread, but it sucks to find out after hard work you've wasted your time.


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