dr0x

I believe there is a .5in difference in thickness between the powerstroke and the ram.

bkapold@aol.com

I made a few of these kits for various TII guys and the problem is that everyone has a different idea on how they should be designed ya know? Take a look around, how many guys have the same setup? My point is that it maybe tough to please people with one design and a Pain in the *** (PITA) for you to accomidate.....Just looking out for ya!

There is so much in the equation than just a core and some tubing..... I've tried everything, good and bad..and Spearco is the ****!!! hands down the best cores for any application... I have a 27 x 7.5 x 3.5 w/ end tanks and its really effective, but I also have a T60-1 turbo so lag is minimal...Now with a stock turbo it maybe a different story....

A FMIC is easy to make!! just get a good core and buy some mandrel bends from Jeg's and cut them to fit...then weld them or get silicone connectors

Brad

dr0x

Yes they are rather cheap. But not everyone knows a welder, or can do it themselves. The average price to weld aluminum here is about 80$/hr (not near what Im paying). Plus not everyone wants to find the biggest core you can stuff in a fc, and go thru all the trouble of cutting the pipe etc. I know a lot of people would be happier with a bolt on setup rather than making their own.

Terrh

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yes, and I really REALLY don't want to cut the body of my car! you can't just chuck an IC in and hope it fits!

Gene

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I kind of want to build the horizontal mount like that other guy, but I don't want to go to the hassle of putting the 3rd gen UIM and TB on... I'd be super interested in your throttle adapter, and if the whole kit looks nice, I'd be down for that instead of going to all the trouble of making my own setup.

darkwaveboi

im interested

dr0x

All pipes will be painted (red, blue, black, yellow is the colors I will have). Black silicon connectors, and the polished aluminum ic.

Edit: unfortunately I wont have any polished aluminum pipes. If they come w/ a gloss, I can leave them like that if you want. However, if you want a really nice polish on them you have to do it yourself.

Terrh

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got a time guestimate? a month? a week? 3 months? hehehe

count me in as a customer the day I have my motor built...

dr0x

Hrm... probably 2 weeks to a month. I cant start this until I put the motor back in my car. Which should be done within 2 weeks. Then I can begin to fit the intercooler and all piping.

Gene

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er allow me to clarify... I meant looks nice from a performance standpoint... I could care less what it actually LOOKED like looking sweet is a bonus but it's not really necessary...

One thing that draws me to the horizontal setup is that my radiator and IC don't have to share the air supply...

dr0x

That also requires a custom vent to be added into the hood ($$$). You really cant beat a fmic for the cost (unless its a greddy unit )

Chance

Count me in as a potential buyer. I plan on going front mount this spring.

Maxthe7man

That core is on the thin side, also I think a cut down core is a boost leak waiting to happen..
You should stick it on a flow bench and see what it does for pressure drop before going to much further.
The ford truck turbo doesn't flow enough air for a performance rotary application, so I would be hesitant on using an i/c sized for that turbo..Max

dr0x

One of the reasons I was thinking of offering 2 top mounts welded together instead (plus its considerably cheaper to get the used cores). Im going to try to have both setups tested for a pressure drop before selling anyone the kit.

dr0x

A pic of how the two top mounts would look (I will paint the end tanks same color as the pipe you want).

SonicRaT

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Quicky question, are we going to need new radiators?

dr0x

No you wont need a new rad. If they need to be moved back (maybe) I will include the mounts and new rad hoses. I could try to route the pipes under the rad, however that is pretty close to the ground. Im going to plumb the pipes in which ever way is shortest and requires the least bit of modification.

SonicRaT

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good luck! if you can pull this off I'm definatly in

dr0x

If I use 2 top mounts welded together, this kit will be way less than 400$. Price will vary slightly depending on how much it costs me to get 2 top mounts as I wont have a supplier for them (dont know anywhere that actually makes stock ic's anymore).

SonicRaT

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Would it be cheaper if we gave you one of the top mounts?

dr0x

Yes. If I opt to the top mounts, Ill be doing a core exchange.

jreynish

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when you do the two top mounts int hat picture there are a little bit of the two endtanks left you will have to eleiminate as much of that as possible as it creates ALOT of turbulence and makes a huge pressure drop unless you make it like 1/4 of an inch or less. I did weld two together and they seemed to flow and cool rather well. However this is a good cheap FMIC especially if you don't care about looks. lol! But if you have a big turbo then this isn't the best idea. You should do the Dodge or the Ford IC's as they are larger and cool much better.
dr0x where do you live?

dr0x

Alberta. I could probably take the end tank right off the core and have them welded like that. I havent really looked into it. Im tired right now and going to bed, Im going to check out a ram cooler later (or tomorrow).

But as it looks, to get 2 top mounts it would cost less than 100$. Then about another 150$ to cover mandrel bent corners, couplings, beading, welding, gas, mounts etc.

What would the potential buyers prefer?

Terrh

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its uglie! hehehe

but as long as it works, I don't really care

a pair of top mounts.. once I get a gigantic turbo, it'll be great

SonicRaT

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i'd opt for two top mounts, partly because I'm a cheap bastard, but whatever