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Old 12-14-02, 07:05 PM
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No, at least not from what I use. Carb cleaner is more of a liquid/cleans **** really well, starting fluid is more of a gas/vapor (from what I've seen). I've used it many times to troubleshoot vac leaks and I've yet to see one ill side effect. Oh yeah, starting fluid is also a LOT more flammable, so I don't suggest it, (or at least, from my own experience! :-D )
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die


Isn't that the same stuff as starter fluid?
JESUS GOD NO!!!!!

Starting fluid is EXTREMELY VOLITILE!!!

Ive used it to start rotaries before, but its not a recommended practice.

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Old 12-14-02, 08:46 PM
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Carb cleaner is more similar to brake cleaner. Starter fluid would be something like ether.
Old 12-14-02, 09:44 PM
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Well... if the car still runs fine and idles fine, then you don't have a big huge leak anywhere....BUT
It COULD be that your BOV spring just went or something- and is opening up- letting off all boost.. but you'd still see a few PSI. Try blocking off the BOV, pinching the hose or whatever. (BUT DON'T LET OFF THE THROTTLE SUDDENLY!!)
I'm assuming your car has no power? A TII with no boost is a very slow car.
How does the car run/idle???
I hope there was nothing in the ic/piping that could have flown through the engine and smoked it, as well as the turbine.

Well.. I'd take off the DP and check out the turbine wheel...
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check the air hose going to a bac after the turbo....
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The car does run and idle still. I guess checking for leaks with carb cleaner is alright then? What exact hose are you talking about BlackRx7? I checked all the hoses I could find, and all were still on. What do you mean after the turbo?
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did you check you bov..... it maybe stuck open. also check to see if you blow a gasket between the turbo and the exhaust manifold.
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Didn't think about the BOV being stuck open. Why would it do that though, it is brand new?
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Yeah, checking with carb cleaner is fine. I don't see how the TurboXS bov can get stuck open unless something gets jammed in it, I guess you can start the car up and watch it and make sure it's not opening pre-maturely (unlikely)
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Originally posted by ERAUMAZDA
did you check you bov..... it maybe stuck open. also check to see if you blow a gasket between the turbo and the exhaust manifold.
This is unlikely as it would still produce some boost... at least anought that you could read! but it might be a good idea to check. you said your compressor blades were bent you know if enough of them are bent then your compressor will not compress anymore... it would be just like driving an N/A cause it would just allow enough air to pass so that the engine can breathe. Just a thaught!
How badly are they bent?
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Just out of curiousity, did you check to see if the hose to your boost gauge is still intact? If you popped the hose, all the pressure will escape, ya know?
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No starter fluid is actually very similar to aviation fuel, very nasty stuff. Carb Cleaner is flamable but doesn't combust under pressure.
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TRY CHEKING YOUR WASTEGATE IT MIGHT BE STUK OPEN. PLAY AROUND WITHT HE ACTUATOR JUST TO MAKE SURE., THE LOUD POP COULD BE FUEL CUT
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I really doubt I hit fuel cut, I mean I boost above fuel cut all the time and have a fcd, unless somehow it just went bad while boostling like 10psi. And my wastegate is the stock S4 so even if it was stuck open I doubt I couldn't get any boost. Thanks for the help guys.
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You blew a pipe off somewhere. It is very easy tio find boost leaks if you have an air compressor. Remove the turbo inlet duct and cap the turbo compressor, pump some air into the system and then you will hear where it is leaking.

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Originally posted by BlackFC
You blew a pipe off somewhere. It is very easy tio find boost leaks if you have an air compressor. Remove the turbo inlet duct and cap the turbo compressor, pump some air into the system and then you will hear where it is leaking.

Daniel
I hope you're right. I should get a chance to check it out tomorrow.
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Possibly it is not something visable. Like, you popped a hose at high boost and the engine should go to decleration. I am assuming you let of the gas real quick. Is it possible that the vacuum pulled the hose flush again? If so check all your clamps

Also, are you using worm drive type clamps on all hoses that see boost? Not the stock squeezy deals. But real clamps.

Also, those compressor blades are intresting. Can you snap a picture of the damage?

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okay after the turbo intake stream, behind the piece that connects the turbo to the IC, there should be a hose going to the bottom of the BAC
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this is the BAC
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My vote is for a loose intercooler pipe. Did that on my talon after tranny #2. Forgot to tighten the upper intercooler pipe down and when I punched it, it was ok up to about 10-11# then I heard a loud POP. The car stumbled and started running really shitty. Popped the hood to find the intercooler pipe popped loose from the connector. Tightened it back on and presto...car was all better.
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Well what cap actually fell off was up higher. Its the one that had a hose going to the stock intercooler. Hey levi I'll try to get it there tomorrow if thats cool. I have to see now with work(gotta work today). Thanks alot though.
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No sweat bro... bring her over. Hit me up, if you need directions...
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Alright I checked all the connections and redid them even to be sure. And I used carb cleaner to check for leaks. None. Also I noticed that the car is smoking quite heavily. It looks just gray. So I'm thinking my turbo is gone.

Levi, what time will you be online tomorrow? Or you can email me your number with directions to ludichris222@yahoo.com. Thanks.
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Sorry dude that is what i would dudce as well, cause almost the exact same thing happned to me, but before you unbolt your turbo take off the dp and check the exhaust turbine and see if it is all chipped up and ****. if so then your turbo is most likely f#%ed.
I know it hurts happned to me. then the engine 180k later.


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