Just curious to know, approximate how much Horsepower gain have you FMIC guys noticed when you replaced your TMIC, without cranking your boost up on your TURBO? In other words how much horsepower did you gain with the BOOST set the same on your TMIC & your FMIC? What's the power difference? I'm sure know one will respond, because most of you added since everyone else did and your not really sure of the effects except that cool air allows for more air. Is it a 50 BHP add on or what?

 

The main reason people add a front is so they can safely turn the boost up on their turbocharger. I wouldn't say its worth 50hp with the same boost as with a TMIC though.

 

I doubt much if any. but it allows you to run more boost.

 

I'm running 4 psi more with my TMIC, that's why I'm trying to find out what's the hype on the FMIC? Maybe I will need it if I run over 12 PSI or so? Thanks guys for your response. Is there anyone else that would like to elaborate on this topic, my car is a daily driver, not a Track King

 

well fmic are better becuse they dont heat up when ur stoped at red light's so ur boost is cooler better for the engine... plus ull loose bout ~1psi when going to a larger front mounted core

 

It doesn't need to be a track king, having a FMIC will prolong the life of your turbocharger.

 

the higher the boost you are running with your TMIC and the longer you are on boost for the MORE HP you will gain with a FMIC. with a FMIC the intake temps dont go thru the roof when on boost for over 20 seconds like they do with the TMIC. crawling along in 2nd gear, i nailed the gas, hooked third and by the time i was at ariound 5500rpm in 3rd - a matter of seconds.... with a TMIC i watched the intake temp hit 60 degrees and it was still climbing like a space rocket and thats with a water sprayer. With a FMIC you dont get that, you may hit 60 degrees by the time you reach redline in 4th gear...

BTW temps in degrees celcius

 

what fmic are you talking about btw? i have a starion that im gonna put in soon, after i get a batt relocation kit, elect fan, and piping made for it... just wondering if ill pick up any hp from it or what fmic are you talking about?

thanks
rocky

 

you gain something like 1.2% HP for every 10 degrees celcius your intake temp drops

if your FMIC enables you to have an intake temp of 50 or 60 degrees celcius by the time you get near redline in 4th gear, then you are gaining 3.6% more HP than you would have with the TMIC with intake temps of 80-90 degrees celcius - and thats being conservative for the TMIC temps

 

Thanks for all of your responses, Maybe I'll do a GReddy FMIC and a Fluidyne Radiator with a electric fan

 

Put greddy in...still running stock boost...nothing changed at slower speeds(got worse?)...but when the air is flowing at 40-50 mph+, must be 10-15 ponys. did not help drag times much---15.22@90 to a 15.11@97.39 elev. 3500ft ,but as u can see- top end picked up at a sacrifice of low end. know I can turn up boost past 6.5 safely---look out. Stock vettes were at 14.4@98.
Not bad for mostly stock and 14 years old.

 

About 20hp for stock turbo...


-Ted

 

you picked up about 8 mph in the 1/4...thats a good power boost to pick up that much. Work on your launch and that's damn near a 13 sec 1/4 you'll be staring at. What was your 60ft out of curiosity?

 

Anyone who has switched to a FMIC is not going to be running stock boost levels. The whole point of an FMIC is for when your running higher psi's when your intake temps are going through the roof and you need to cool them to avoid detonation. The stock intercooler is designed for about 8psi worth of boost so if your staying at stock levels why would you need to upgrade it?
For example im running 12psi of boost and upgrading to an FMIC that is designed for cooling efficiantly up to 15psi which is going to be ideal for my setup.

 

That's not entirely correct. Remember, the stock intercoolers on most turbo cars are already front-mounted. No matter how much or how little boost you're running, the location is simply better because of the much more consistant intake temps (no heat soak).
Because your car will still be faster. Even at the same boost, lower intake temps mean more power. Plus, if you sit at a red light (or on a dummy grid) for a few minutes, you won't lose 10-20hp because of your skyrocketing intake temps.

 

The stock intercooler has flow through it about as good as a schoolbus. First, low speed air(the slow air that clings to the body) goes into the scoop, then it takes a 90 degree turn down into the small intercooler, then the air smahes into the plate mounted into the back of the intercooler, and seeps out through a small slot at the rear of the intercooler assembly.

Compare that to straight flow directly from one of the highest pressure areas of airflow on your car, and flowing out of the back of a larger, more efficient core, with no restrictions.

Then there is the fact that all of that blasting hot air in your engine bay goes right up out of your intercooler at a stop.

 

Just a thought. Instead of spending the big money on the Greddy system. The cheaper one is $1000 shipped?

Install a water injection system. The stock intercooler does work well at speed. It just needs a little help. Water injection is a proven modifcation.

You could DIY for under $200. Or you could buy the basic Aquamist system for $420. Both cheaper than a $1000 Greddy FMIC.

Of course you would need an intake temp. gauge of some sort to measure everything.

Thread with temp readings from a TMIC
http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...0&#entry305075
James

 

I got mine for 840 shipped. I was going to build my own system, but I found that I would have spent at least that amount + crap load of time, car down-time and it probably wouldn't look nearly as nice.

 

the 97.39mph was a 15.436 with 2.857 -60ft
the 15.110 was a 2.226 -60ft and a 91.38
can't seam to make top e.t. go with mph...must be me, only secound time draging.
The best mph was olso the first run of the day and I noticed that It pulled harder at the end than later runs due to beeing hot??
Still experimenting...I just got a boost gauge and I'm running about 9-10psi...stock gauge was way off.
Still have all my stock weight though-don't want to gut it.
PS Only 30-40 % was getting to intercooler...cut the facia up to the top line and is getting 80-90% now, feels better and looking forward to a dyno and more dragging, hope for 14's @3500ft.