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Old 01-05-04, 01:19 AM
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First mods?

What are some first mods I should make to an FC?

Just... a crappy.... short list I came up with was:
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turbo timer (mainly to be a bit lazy I suppose....)

boost pressure gauge

aluminum boost tube (to replace the rubber ones since they can crack)




It's not much... Just some things I thought up and wondered, are these ok for some first mods to make? Or are there other things you guys would suggest be done first?
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60k mile tune up!

Some more info on your car would help also.
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Actually, I don't have it yet. I'm just trying to plan ahead, not too sure what condition the car I'll get is in yet or anything..... Like I said.. Just tryin to plan ahead and get an idea before I do anything. I needed some aid from my dad in affording the car w/o drawing out of some money I don't want to spend, but he won't help me yet... So I have to wait a while longer, which sucks, I found a really nice white 88 FC I want
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Do a full tune up first. It will make the car run more up to its stock potential and make finding problems easier when you start to mod.
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Alrighty, cool. But if they'd done it before selling, or if I'd done it after getting it... What would you say are good for some first mods? Would that list be ok? Or should I do something else? I would assume if I was doing a full tune up, I should go ahead and replace the stock turbo tubing ..... if it hadn't been already.
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Opening up the exhaust is the best bang for the buck power wise but be sure that you have the fuel mods to support it (FCD, fuel pump).
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Thanks, I know opening up the exhaust is one thing... At the same time, I don't want to do it to the point of being illegal.

As for posting about first mods.. I wasn't entirely wanting to just go for HP, but also just..... First mods for the car, a few things to get out of the way in the begining. Like more reliable turbo tubes, going ahead and getting gauges and such that might help out... I dunno, just some minor things to start off. Heh, and my language in this post seems rather strange due to someone talking to me on the phone while I'm typing...
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Stronger turbo tubes? Do you mean something like silicon vacuum hoses or stainless steel braided lines? If you have a stock exhaust system I dont think you would need an aftermarket boost gauge unless you thought it was reading off or wasnt working.

As far as modifying the exhaust you can do what I did and still be legal in your state depending on your laws. I have a corksport 3 inch down pipe which replaces the stock downpipe and stock connecting pipe and bolts to a bonez hi flow cat.
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Erm... My reason for saying stronger turbo tubes.. Was I recall reading on that one FD site something about the stock rubber tubes (or whatever they are.... I'm quite sure that's not the word.... heh) cracking slightly and it being hard to notice....

Oh, and part of my reason for the gauges was.. Just to know.... But at the same time, the guy whose FC I was looking at and thought I was going to get (before I learned I'd have to wait, and likely not be able to get that one) had some modded exhaust system and he didn't bother to post what he'd done to it on the autotrade site.
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I am still not sure what you are taking about but I am either guessing vacuum lines or maybe hard intake pipes that the 3rd gens have. Maybe if you can find a picture.
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Yeah, I'm searching through the site I read it on now. Curse my bad memory Maybe it was the intake pipe........
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Ah! It seems I was searching for the wrong thing the whole time. It was where he was talking about installing a new y-pipe... The guy was talking about the crossover tube's rubber connector cracking and releasing some pressure.

The black plastic crossover tube has a tendency to crack on both ends and the rubber connector between the Y-pipe and crossover tube has a tendency to split. These cracks can be the source of hard-to-solve boost problems. The cracks can't be seen unless you remove the tube and pry it open, and yet under boost pressure the cracks open up and vent your boost
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Yes, the TID will crack and replacing that is a good "mod" along with a intake is a good place to start (After full tuneup & fluid replacements)
Hope u get one, Good luck/skill!
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3rd gens have plastic intercooler/turbo piping. 2nd gens have aluminium turbo/intercooler piping.

First thing should be a full tuneup and checkout of every system on the car. If you are planning on making any real power, the first mod should be an EMS system like the Microtech. This starts you off with a base on which you can build a lot of power without fussing with things like FCDs, S-AFCs, etc. Sure, it's expensive, but in my opinion it's well worth it. Just don't expect to pass emissions (that's not to say it can't be done...).
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Oh cool, so only the FD had the cheap stuff that cracked easily? And an FC won't really have to worry about it? That's cool.


Well, while I do want to increase power at one point, I'm not really going for increasing the power a huge deal first thing, I wanna just get used to the car first (everything other than my car bugs me for a while, since I'm so used to it....), then worry about making it faster and such. I'm just looking for some minor things to start off with.
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http://fc3spro.com/TECH/FM2W/power.htm


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Thanks a lot! Strangely though, at the same time I looked at this friend, a friend of mine apparently came across the same site while looking around. Or maybe he found my post and saw it, heh heh...
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A lot of the reliability mods that FD owners perform are due to the extreme under-hood temps that their cars run STOCK. You needn't concern yourself "as much" as the average FD owner with that(although it's not a terrible thing to do anyway). I agree that the first couple of bucks you spend on the car should be for a tune up by a rotary specialist, then maybe an intake, downpipe and a catback, leaving the stock cat in place. This, plus a fuel pump and a fuel cut defenser, will give you a comfortable increase in power, and leave the car reasonably stock and smog legal(unless you live in a smog-**** state like california, where you won't pass visual for the down pipe).

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Hah hah, smog-****.... Poor and lucky at the same time.... Lots of imports... But highly priced gas and smog *****, heh heh.......




Anyway...... Instead of making another thread, I'll just make this one longer.. In that link I was given, I was reading about CDIs..... And I was wondering....


Another popular unit is the Jacobs Rotary Master unit. Priced over $300, it's an expensive option compared to the MSD 6A or Crane Cams HI-6. HKS offers it's Twin-Power (Rotary application) which control leadings and both trailing ignition channels. The HKS unit is pricey MSRP $540!
What is the advantage to this rotary application? I mean... Does it only affect rotaries? (if so..... why?) Just curious....


Yeah yeah, still a big newbie, but oh well, I only became interested in cars recently, in the past I was too busy with..... Well... nothing I guess. Just didn't care because all I hear about in this area is "HP this, HP that...." basically most in this area don't seem to even like imports.... And.. just.. I dunno. I was basically of the thinking, "the car gets me from here to here."

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http://fc3spro.com/TECH/MODS/IGN/cdi.htm

You can thank RETed. Browse through that site for a lot of good info.
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Oh, the thanks was for helping and posting the link

That's where I got the quote from, I just didn't quite understand why the Twin Power one was a lot more beneficial (I think I misread it or something..... Because I understand what it was saying now).

I suppose now, I have one more thing to ask before I'll let this thread rest heh heh..... About these Zenki and Kouki engines.... Are those in certain models? Or do just some cars have one, and other cars the other?
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Nevermind, I saw it.....


1986-1988 Zenki FC3S models seem ........ the newer 1989-1991 Kouki FC3S models.
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