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Old 04-09-03, 12:30 AM
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hahaha

I just looked through the exhaust ports into the combustion chambers, and everythign seemed to be in order, all the apex seals seemed intact, etc. I checked the compression once I got the engine INSIDE the car. it was checked cold, though..
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Well if the engine is cold when they are compression tested and it is not spinning fast enough to build proper compression then wouldn't a reading of 110 be amazing, and if you did it the proper way it would be much much higher? Seems to me if it is tested when cold and is fine at that point then there is no way it can be bad compression, just baby it for a while, no WOT, nothing above 5k rpm, should not be any different then breaking in a new engine and then it should be fine. Any reason why this is not true? If so please let me know.....I am an information ***** and need as much as possible.
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
In my experience: J-Specs are good core motors ONLY.

What do you think: There is a big enclosed, temperature and humidity controlled wharehouse full of never raced, properly maintained, low milage high compression engines. Just waiting to be sold to you for the low low price of 995??

GET REAL!!!!
Every J-Spec I have seen has been literly yanked from the donor vehicle. The wire harness is cut, the mounts were not unbolted before the engine was yanked!

Most J-specs suffer some form of shipping damage, Bent Throttle shafts, deformed intercoolers, bent pullies, damaged oil pans, broken intake pipes. etc. etc.

Another tidnit. Everyone will agree that allowing a Rotary to sit is detrimental to its health. Lets look at the timeline for a J-Spec:

Day 0: Car is wrecked/disposed off
Day 5-14: Car makes it thru legal paperwork and goes to junkyard
Day-14 thru 30: Engine is yanked from car
Day 45: Engine is sold to exporter
Day 45-90: Engine sits while exporter gathers enough for a container
Day 90: Container is loaded and sent to the docks
Day 90-120: Container waits at dock (Exposed to salt water laden air)
Day 120: Loaded on ship
Day 120-145: Trip to US
Day 145: Unloaded at customs
Day 145-160: Container finally clears Customs
Day 160: Delivered to Importer

So at best this engine has taken 160 days to get ready to sell
You forgot the 6 years that the car was sitting in the first place after it was wrecked (should be listed somewhere between day 14 and day 30).
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Old 04-09-03, 07:12 AM
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I was giving the BEST case scenerio.
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Old 04-09-03, 04:25 PM
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ok first off thanks for all the replies....

the reason im going to go with a j-spec is becuase i think my turbo on my car is fried.....it was smoking when the engine blew so im sure something got sucked up in there....and even if the turbo isnt bad, its got over 188,000 miles on it so it needs to be replaced period...
j-specs come with the turbo so that problem is solved...

i would just get a rebuilt engine, but then i would have to get a new turbo or have mine rebuilt....which on top of the money spent on the engine rebuild and shipping would be too expensive for what i can afford right now

the other reason is when i get this engine i'll get it in the car and i still have the core to the blown engine which i can rebuild over the summer the right way, with time and good quality parts.....i want to use 3mm seals and all that jazz.....but most importantly if i use my blown engine and rebuild it myself it will be a HUGE learning experience and that alone is of high value to me...

i would also like to thank $150FC for being the only one to actually answer my question......thank you....
everyone else seemed to just jump on the slam me bandwagon

and by the way im not insulting kevin.....although i dont like how everytime i make a post about my blown engine he chimes in with something smart to say about my situation...im not going to apoligize for not using him as my engine re-builder

i by no means ignore any info given to me on this forum, because, i have solved many problems with my 7 with help from the great people that use this board.....

i just dont think its right to have to have to take **** from someone, just cause they know more about an rx-7 than i do...especially since i have tried being nice to him before and apparently that doesnt matter to him....instead of helping he is just trying to make me feel stupid for not going to him with my engine problems.

just because he knows engines, by no means gives him the right to be an *** towards me every chance he gets......
all you have to do is read his replies in my previous threads and you'll know what im talking about....no help....only smart *** replies

theres just no need for that is my basic point......

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the reason im going to go with a j-spec is becuase i think my turbo on my car is fried.....it was smoking when the engine blew so im sure something got sucked up in there....and even if the turbo isnt bad, its got over 188,000 miles on it so it needs to be replaced period...
i would just get a rebuilt engine, but then i would have to get a new turbo or have mine rebuilt....which on top of the money spent on the engine rebuild and shipping would be too expensive for what i can afford right now
Used s4 turbos are available all day long for $100 or so. Theyre not exactly hard to get. I have a couple laying around right now.

everyone else seemed to just jump on the slam me bandwagon
Nobody is slamming you. We're trying to give you, and some of the other newbie's/forum kiddie's a reality check, and speak from experience. Everybody likes to go around yelling about jspec this and jspec that. I should try to get a connection in japan that sells loaves of bread, call them jspec loaves, have them shipped in, sell them for 50 bucks each, and tell people that theyre better than what we have here, in spite of the mold growing on them. That's essentially what a jspec engine is.

I have, and have seen friends, install engines from junkyards/cars that sat (jspecs are the same) and had them a) be bad before they were installed or b) die within 3 months of installation, more often than not 1 month or less, no matter how they were driven. Do you really want to go through that? Apparently so. Dont listen to us. We're just slamming you.

although i dont like how everytime i make a post about my blown engine he chimes in with something smart to say about my situation...im not going to apoligize for not using him as my engine re-builder
Hey, it's your money, do what you wish. I just hate to see people who dont know a lot about what theyre doing waste their time and money, that's all. Would you like to hear the truth, or what you want to hear?? But hey, what do I know, go right ahead.

all you have to do is read his replies in my previous threads and you'll know what im talking about....no help....only smart *** replies


I would *really* like to know what you're talking about now. Let's see some examples.
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just search my threads that you have responded in......if you didnt mean them as smart replies then they sure came off that way to me....
instead of answering my questions you just made it seem like i was retarded for considering other options...

im not considering getting a jspec just because of the name.. i could care less what the hell they are called, its because if i can get a full engine with a warranty of 40k + miles for under a grand....thats all i can afford so im stuck with that option...im not choosing to get a jspec because i want one, im CONSIDERING it because it fits my budget more....
this thread has become nothing more than a talking contest between you and I so im just gonna stop...there no more info i can derive from this spitting contest
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I would *really* like to know what you're talking about now. Let's see some examples.
just search my threads that you have responded in......
I didnt think so.
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Old 04-09-03, 05:36 PM
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damnit.........you dont quit do you......

all you have to do is search under my name and you'll see your posts...*EDITED by MOD... no flaming*

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Old 04-09-03, 05:53 PM
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forget searching. . . *Edited by Mod, removed all off topic post*

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Rotorbrain, you too. No flaming!

I didn't see kevin once bad mouth the guy. However both you and Fitness both seem to be failing to follow forum rules.
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forget searching. . .
That's the spirit, just take what the forum kiddies say as truth.

but you are by far not a business man
I dont hear anyone else complaining. Regardless, Im not striving to be some professional behind a desk in a suit, I work on freakin cars for a living. Furthermore, I would much rather have someone be realistic and honest with me, rather than let me carry on with some backward ideas, or just feed me BS to tell me what I want to hear so they can "be a businessman".

you continuously flame someone for not going with YOU.


I'd like to see where??

like your engines are so great.
Theyre a lot damn better than a blown one my friend, which last I heard, you had 2 of.

1200 dollars is mighty cheap for a rebuild. i wonder how you do it for so cheap.
Simple. Im willing to accept less of a profit than other places are. They have large buildings, high dollar equipment, and multiple employees to pay for, none of which I do.

hes ASKING what the deal is with the j-spec. most of you (even kevin) are right about their history. . . the information is more than likely appreciated,
More than likely dismissed or ignored...

but when somebody gets burned buy a "business man" there seems to be something wrong.
Am I missing something here??

did i talk **** about you for that?
You must be talking about a different set of emails, or even a different person, than I recall. I am the first to admit that I am not the porting king or anything like a lot of these guys/shops claim to be. But I sincerely doubt I would say that "I dont mess with it". Perhaps about bridgeporting etc, yes. Streetporting? I do some version of it on almost every engine I build, which is probably near 100 now.

come on man, give the guy a break and get your "professional" fingers out of your ***.
If I werent expected to be so "professional" I would tell you to *EDIT- NOT family friendly* but then that wouldnt be conduct becoming of a businessman would it?

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Old 04-09-03, 08:38 PM
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"and is there anything else that i will have to do before i can just pop this motor in??"

A direct answer to this question: You can prepare to "pop" out that 950 + 175 or so for shipping, and put another in after it goes "BOOM". You asked for the experienced forum members to give you their experience, we have AND NOW you don't like what you are hearing, so you chose to whine and groan even louder. Your only guarenntee you will get on a JUNK-SPEC is that it will start up. PERIOD! Good luck in what sounds like a long endevour!
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I would tell you to *EDIT- NOT family friendly*
LMFAO!!! We can have a smiley of a monkey whacking off, and one that says "who gives a f**k", but I cant say for rotorbrain to "take the d**k out of his a**"?? Better yet in the name of family friendliness?? This is the GREATEST!!
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Originally posted by hypntyz7
LMFAO!!! We can have a smiley of a monkey whacking off, and one that says "who gives a f**k", but I cant say for rotorbrain to "take the d**k out of his a**"?? Better yet in the name of family friendliness?? This is the GREATEST!!
You crossed the line on the comment, sorry. Would you have prefered something else written?
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Old 04-09-03, 08:46 PM
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Nah man, Im just playin around, havin some fun for a change. I do find that extremely funny though. I think Im going to go off to the lounge to find yzf-r1 to debate where the line is with you for a while and watch the sparks
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Yzf has been banned for life... all part of the new cruelty
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lol

Wait...seriously? surely not...
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Old 04-09-03, 10:24 PM
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Kevin,
I hate to interrupt your fun, but I am not a "kiddie" and I would like your input.
I am putting together the pieces for a 85 GSL-SE conversion to turbo. And I was seriously considering a J-spec, simply because of the long block. I don't have a rebuildable core with the turbo and all of the accessories.
Any thoughts?
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Originally posted by hypntyz7
lol

Wait...seriously? surely not...
yep!
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Originally posted by hanman
Kevin,
I hate to interrupt your fun, but I am not a "kiddie" and I would like your input.
I am putting together the pieces for a 85 GSL-SE conversion to turbo. And I was seriously considering a J-spec, simply because of the long block. I don't have a rebuildable core with the turbo and all of the accessories.
Any thoughts?
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Use the Jspec as your good useable core. Once rebuilt they are very good.

Is just the seals that die from sitting before and during shipping.
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Use the Jspec as your good useable core. Once rebuilt they are very good.
That's exactly right. There is no better source for a core motor. Cheaper, yes. IMO, get the cheapest jspec you can find and rebuild it (minimum parts rebuild) and even put a small port on it if you wish and you'll be VERY happy with what you get.
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Old 04-09-03, 11:25 PM
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i plan on getting a S5 Jspec and rebuilding it before i install it. which seems to me to be the best solution
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$950 seems like an expensive core. By the time you put another 2K into a rebuild plus $300 for porting. It's starting to get pretty spendy.
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You can do it once by doing it right or Half-*** around and keep doing it. Why do you think Rob at Pineappleracing went to automatically using new housings in a Warrenteed Rebuilds? He was losing money buying Junk-Specs to tear down and clean only to end up with shitty *** clean parts.
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