fcdrifter13

After reading the write up in Aarons thread I have a few questions about this setup, wouldnt mind hearing from him on this but anyone that is able to answer the questions that knows what they are talking about please chime in. Again this is for later use. I searched but could not find the answers I was looking for. And then again I suck at searching.

1: On the oil cooler set up in the write up, a bung is welded onto the stock oil cooler to direct oil to the turbo. My main questions on this are

A. Is this the only place to get oil that is presurized to the turbo.

a. If there is a better location what would this be. I was considering running a tee off of the line that exits the cooler that way a cooler supply of oil is going to the turbo. If I am wrong is someway please correct me

B. Are there any type of problems with how it is set up in the thread such as leaking, pressure los, and so on.

2: Running the stock turbo injectors and a Fd fuel pump are you experienceing any detonation using this setup.

A. If you are experencing detonation at what PSI where you running where this happened.

B. Have you gone onto upgrade to larger injectors and a bigger fuel pump.

3: Thread also states that using a SAFC was your main Fuel control. Do you feel that a new standalone would be needed for the boost I am planning on running(8-10PSI). Just seeing if the SAFC is enough for this.

4: How well is the rest of the driveline going to hold up to the added power. I have heard(please verify If wrong) that a NA driveline can only handle around the stock output of a turbo motor. My car is a 88GTU BTW.

5: Drivablity, is one of my bigger concerns of this project. How well does the car respond to normal everday driving. I would not think it would be much different than driving a turbo car, but again I may be wrong

A; Also what kind of milage could I expect. I am not expecting any kinds of gains at all. Just want to know about what I should expect.

6: What kind of EGTs are you guys getting. With my limited experience I have seen an increase in higher compression boosted cars. The main reason I ask is I was wondering if your underhood temps are getting high. This may be a totally retarded question its just been bugging me.

7: Are there any effect of running the strawberry setup you had, or have you fabrecated something else.

8: I plan on running a T2 LIM and a FD UIM. would this be a wise choice to run on this type of set-up.





I am sorry if it seems like I am putting Aaron on the spot, and I am sorry it seems that way. As I said before anyone else who has done this please chime in. Please also refrain from saying"just put an accual turbo drivetrain and motor in it", I will be completing my breaking later this month on a rebuilt S4 NA and I plan on starting this project later on this summer. I do not have the cash to swap out my newly replaced NA driveline, So yeah.

staticguitar313

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well at least they where real, intelligent question unlike most of the n/a>turbo questions, standalone is best SAFC's are just a band aid, stock n/a transmission is rather weak, people tend to break them often with increased torque amounts and harsh beatings. A turbo II driveline or at least tranny would be smart. a better TB adapter can be made than that strawberry thing, Aaron did that whole setup on a VERY tight budget IIRC. Spare no expense, at least you read though a write up before you asked the question of doom.

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...rbo+conversion

Read that conversion as well as its a bit different approach. ImprezedRS and a few others have done a high compression setup as well, dig a little deeper. You can take my examples when i do my setup later this summer or fall.

- Jared

staticguitar313

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Also . . .
Look into Alcohol/Methonol/Water injection systems.

Injectors should be 550cc minimum (my opinion)

Walboro fuel pumps are cheap and flow a shitload of fuel.

Get a fuel pressure regulator with that pump as well.

Want to keep emissions or no?

Are you able to fabricate alot of the odds and ends, or have the money to have other do it for you?

Get a wideband O2 for sure.

fcdrifter13

Emissions are something that I do not have to worry about. I was planing on running 550cc Primary and 720cc secondaries. As far as Fabrication I have acsess to just about any tool I could possibly need. As for a fuel pump I did consider a walboro, but in a couple of threads I have heard of some problems some senior member pick at. Whether any thruth to this or not I dont know they could just be picking at a cheap part because its cheap. Wideband Fo sure.

As far as water in Methonal injection goes I have not read much into that subject. But I will now.

On the site that you gave a link to(thanks BTW) it seems they just swapped all the T2 parts onto a NA motor. I am on a small budget about 2500$ for everything including a standalone if I go that route. So I do not think I will be able to go that route. This is why aaron build up caught my eye. I am just wanting to improve on any design flaws that he has encountered.

1300ccTuner

i got a new oil pedistal with a supply line fitting for around 50 t0 60 bucks. im looking at a t3t4 flange as we speak so i can get the oil to the turbo. i didnt have clearance on my orig set up (couldnt fit under my lim) so im looking atp fittings (mainly a 90 degree elbow). theres a post done yesterday on this forum about it. im going to check with my mech today about those fittings. if you change your front cover water pump oil pump stuff it should be easier to do. if you port matc the lower intake mani you can use all the tII stuff. get a tII ecu it has some timing corrections if im not mistaken for boost.

oh and i blocked off my coolant to my turbo. im wondering if im going to block off the nipple on the rear housing and on the neck or connect them to each other. any help on that?

Aaron Cake

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Covered about 6 million times. Search for "turbo oil supply", "turbo na oil" and variations under my name and SonicRat.

The fuel injection hose I used temporarily is not designed to handle the pressure and heat. You will want hydraulic hose specifically for this purpose or stainless braided. Some turbos require a restrictor to keep the oil pressure from blowing out the seals.

No. But at the high end of 12 PSI it was starting to run lean.

I detonated several times under varying conditions while tuning.

My new setup is 720 primaries, 1600 secondaries, Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump. Of course I won't be using the stock turbo much longer...

S-AFC is fine.

I had no issues.

No differnet then it was before, except for a lot more torque and power when you get into boost. Better fuel economy due to the S-AFC.

Never measured.

It worked fine for me, but there are better solutions. If I was to do it again right now, I would build the same flange but use a smooth transition between the 2" intercooler piping and the roughly 3" throttle body. I would make a cone out of sheet metal or use a prefab stainless reducer.

No idea. Using a TII intake eliminates the need for the strawberry adapter. Seems like more work then is required when the TII upper will bolt right on and you won't have to screw around with the TPS to make it work.

fcdrifter13

Thanks for the replies it has helped clear up alot of things. Also in the link staticguitar313 gave me said they used a oil pedistal and just ran a line off of it, I am considering going this route. Mainly for the reason I would not have to drill and weld onto my oil cooler. Im just not comfortable with that lol. Thanks again for the help. Are there any other problems I should look out for when doing this, just trying to get everything prepped in advance before i would put it in the car.

staticguitar313

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Just weigh your options and take a good hard look at a few different stups, i had just about everything i needed to turbo my car using TII intake manifolds, but i changed my mind and i'm going to be using the stock 6-port intake while keeping the ports functional, its going to be kick ***. My eventual plans are:
Working Aux ports
V-mount
BNR Stage 4 Turbo upgrade
Water/Alcohol injection
Emissions compliant
i'm not looking for a definitive HP number, just a neat, quicker car.

fcdrifter13

I was thinking about a Vmount setup, but I am still wondering if that is the way to go for me havnt really read up on it that much.

I am planning one day after this is completed to run a better fuel sytem, stand alone, bigger turbos, and just see what kind of numbers I can pull on stock ports.