StarScreaM2k1

So i been thinking of the idea of changing my FC Cluster with the FD Cluster. I know the plugs are different for both. If i were to say find plugs that would fit it, and wire it up so the correct FC senders go to the FD Cluster. Would it work? Or are the FC Signals that much Different from the FD that the cluster would just **** itself? Anyone have and idea.. i think Hailers, Reted, NZ, Icemark, and any other gurus can shed some light.

When i do a search all i come up with is people wanting to switch the Entire dash, i just want to switch the Cluster. I have learned some Fiberglass work and i have thought of a way to adapt the Cluster into the FC dash (mounting wise, or atleast i think i have a way that will work and look good), I just want to know that there is a chance this can actually happen, just wondering about the electronics side of it. Thanks!

TwEaK

iTrader: (6)

if im correct the speedometer on the FD is electronic when on the FC is manual with a cable everything else i have no idea..
TwEaK

StarScreaM2k1

Well, its a start. atleast now IF that is the case theres 1 thing i can start to look into, i am sure there is a way to convert it or adapt it or get a electronic sender, i mean aftermarket gauges would need to do the same.

RETed

I would never attempt to try and do such a thing.
A good start is to stare at the FC and FD FSM's, and see what you can and cannot do with the wiring.


-Ted

StarScreaM2k1

Well i know that not everyone would attempt it, but i think its something i would like to try to do, make my car that much more unique in my own way. However, thats just opinion, and i respect yours.

Back to point tho, like i am not sure exactly what i am looking for. Like i know the connectors are different, i really want to know which wires do what. The FC manual is simple and i can tell it easily, but the FD manual is well... way more complicated compared to the FC manual. Also wanted to know if the voltage/current/whatever you want/ are the same so i know if just a rewiring would work, or if i need to get some adaptors/resistors/ or get some aftermarket senders. Thanks for your help so far.

snowball

i know it can be done, ive seen a full FD dash in a FC...
easy no way.

StarScreaM2k1

you got any pics of that? may help me out! let me know!

papiogxl

iTrader: (6)

One way I can think of is to use all FD sending units, and the FC's fatory wiring. Cut the wiring at the connectors and solder on FD ones. For the speedo, run the wire for it through the stock hole in the firewall. The gausge cluster itself, and the hood would most likely need to be modified also. Most definately not the easiest thing to do, but it would be fairly unique.

Madrx7racer

^^ that's what I was thinking and I'm going to agree with RETed stare at the FSM to see the wiring diagram............if after staring at the diagram for 15minutes you do not understand a thing I would suggest you skip this project.

StarScreaM2k1

i havent stared at it that long my brother was on his honeymoon (he just got married) and hes did some electrical **** in school so i assume he would know the FD diagram way better then i would. but yeah i think i am gonna have to get all the FD sensors, but are the sensors the same tho atleast the tolerances and how it measures so most of them should work tho? or am i incorrect in that?

Madrx7racer

i think you should spend(WASTE) your time and money on something else.

snowball

no pics i saw it in a video a while ago. it was so dark you couldnt tell much other than it was an FD dash.

MaczPayne

iTrader: (5)

If you're saying that the FD wiring diagram is too complicated, then you shouldn't be doing this.

StarScreaM2k1

if your saying that i cant learn, when i am trying to give it a chance(and trying to learn, and if you read my later post about having my brother know more about this then i do), then you shouldnt be posting

StarScreaM2k1

i understand, but i mean i havent bought anything yet, hence i am asking right. I mean if it seems that its gonna be harder then i originally thought (i know it was going to be tough). then i wont do it, however i do understand what you mean, and until i get more info i cant make a decision yet. thanks tho

also thanks snowball for the info, i'll see if maybe i can atleast find that.. i dont wanna do a full dash swap, but i wanna see how that would look.

Madrx7racer

we're trying to say: this seems like a waste of time...and it's complicated and you will waste all this time and effort on something that has no ACTUAL gains except for easthetics even though it will look out of place in the FC dash....most people get rid of the stock gauges due to their inaccuracy and age yet YOU want to ruin your good dash and harnesses trying to..............i don't know why you think it's cool actually.......but like I've said to other members: it's your time and money, you waste it however you want.

StarScreaM2k1

my above post was not quoted to you, just so you know. However, like i said i understand how it will be hard and complicated and that bit. Like i had said i HAVENT 100% DECIDED TO DO IT YET. Hence i am asking for any other complications that i might not see. So this is something i understand, however i am looking to this project before i start it, so as of yet i havent wasted any time or money yet in my eyes. It just aggrivates me when ppl not you Madrx7racer(youve had posts that actually help, and have some reason to them), but others that just "if you can do this, then you shouldnt be doing that" WTF are you retarded?! ITS THE REASON I AM ASKING!. I mean it does look like from what it seems that i probably wont be doing it, given how hard it is to even get a cluster WITH the connectors, nevermind the work to come after. Thanks anyhow.

classicauto

iTrader: (3)

OK:

-You'll need all the FD sensors (covered this already)

-You'll need to "somehow" figure out what type of signal the FD speedo (and consequently, odometer) need to operate as intergrating the FD's speedo sender (IIRC) will be impossible save for swapping the trans. in. It *may* be possible to use a wheel speed sensor and some type of signal modifier, however being that a speedo is really, really, necessary for a street car - I would suggest talking to some FD guys experienced with wiring. (the speedo thing alone would turn me off this project)

-You'll need to figure out how the f**k you're going to fit the drastically different shape into your FC's gaping hole where the instrument cluster used to live.

-From what little I've seen of the FD FSM, you *may* also need to paritally run the FD ECU as it appears some of the instrument cluster wiring is operated from the ECU. These may only be idiot lights, but Im not sure.


I wouldn't touch it with a 40' pole.

StarScreaM2k1

PERFECT! exactly what i needed to know. Thanks a ton! from what i looks like it is a project that is going to cost alot, and my not turn out in the end how i want it. I think i may just endup getting ALL aftermarket gauges and just make a metal plate and mount it on that or something. Thanks a ton classic!