R.O.D

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so im in need of a new clutch, ebay is selling one for $300 FRICKIN dollars. but at the end of the descriptions it says :"EXEDY Stage 1 Single Plate Organic Clutch Kit for Mazda RX7 86-91 (Turbo), 626/MX6 Turbo 88-92, 929 88-91, and Ford Probe 89-92. Note:Can handle up to 262ft/lbs WTQ"


Soo i looked up a clutch for a ford probe, and its $149.00 and its a stage3!!!

but before i go the step up buying it, im hoping some of the gurus can shine some light on this.

heres the link to compare:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-R...Q5fAccessories

any help will be awesome thanks

arghx

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Look up the actual part numbers for each and see if they match.

R.O.D

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ya i did, called a napa that i trust, and the number were close, the guy thought it might be a difference in throw out bearings, so i wanted to makes sure, ive done just about everything but get the two, and physically measure with a mirometer, soo looking for someone that may have heard from a good source, or done it them selves

R.O.D

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Oh also its an 88 TII engine, if that helps some, which i think maybe crucial lol

1SWEET7

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What a cheap bastard. Just get the proper clutch.

R.O.D

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sooo, yaaa, not really lookin for opinions, this maaaybe why rx7club is falling off, cause people go for help and get kicked in the face by "brothers", less douchebaggyness, and more ppl that know things and aren't pissed about thier stocks they put in Atari.
as much abuse as my clutch gets, without a sponsor to get good parts cheap, ill end up paying out the *** for something that GRABS and RELEASES, soo the cheap will do just fine thanks for the concern though, i do appriciate it.. Now, back to the question lol

thanks(for good help)

rnz520

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dude just buy the clutch, but if you fee like experimenting you might find something new that could save ppl that are in a tight spot some money.
For me its an ACT 6 puck solid or twin disk once my stock unit goes out

R.O.D

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see id totally be down for just getting it, but with my criminal justice classes, and ever other class inbetween, im cutting it close, and dont have too much to experiment with and im just worried about the actual fit, and returning it if not. which ebay is not really good for..
from what my guy at napa said, they're the same diameter, im concerned about spline count and size

R.O.D

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i do have a ACT currently, friggin LOVE it but i dont have the money anymore for awesome **** like that, and i like driving my car at 15psi, and not slip, so im doing what i can

scathcart

The ford probe gt uses a 23 spline shaft, same as the TII transmission, both should be a 240mm disc. The newer probes used a 22 spline shaft with a smaller disc, and would not work. Whether or not the pressure plate, flywheel step, etc is the same I have no idea... but the disc should fit.

walken

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$130 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY...item5d24d11d6c

R.O.D

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well, guess im gonna have to dive in head first, ill update with the results with a good write up

championadrien

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The XTD's don't really have a good reputation, some say it lasts forever some say it last 2 minutes. I dished out $320 for the Exedy for ease of mind.

Technically I think you should view it as the other way around. Only buy the cheap unknown stuff if you have the money to repair your fuckup, that way its a win/win. Either you save $150.00 or you find out that so and so brand sucks.

But if you only have say $350.00, and you dish out the $150.00 on so so brand and that fails, you're left with a broken clutch and only $200.00, which is not enough to buy said brand name clutch in the first place.

alexdimen

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you can lead a horse to water... but you can't teach it to buy the right part that costs less anyways.

R.O.D

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i understand the point ur making i really do, but its stock...and im running 15psi as stated earlier, and im fairly sure that, even though it is an exedy, itll still slip
so whether or not its brand name, its not gonna hold, and also as stated above its gonna see alot of abuse, and a stock replacement will only last for about a week.

scathcart

15 psi on a stock turbo is roughly 250 whp. Stock clutch will hold that just fine, and last as long as any others.

FelixIsGod29X

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Why run 15psi on a stocker? Isn't it only good for 12psi and even then psi falls off?

Also please keep an update on the clutch kit you buy. Im hoping to buy a s4 t2 motor soon and would like to get a new stock clutch for cheaper than normal.

R.O.D

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i make plenty of power at 15psi, i used to run 20 but i was running thru tires too fast, so i backed it down to 15. if urs doesnt make power at 15 then somethings wrong. and no a stock clutch wont work, i ran a stock clutch for 2 weeks, and it slipped 3rd thru 5th..

i called the guys at xtd, they were really helpful. im looking at getting a stage 3 from them, they also carry a one year warranty. ill keep u guys updated.

and anyone that has such a hard on for ''name brand'' if your not running Brembo Brakes, Gates Racing Belts, Blitz raidator hoses, Ngk n7420s, and driving around wearing Sparco shoes with Hollister socks, pants, shirt, and a faggy hair cut, SHUT UR ****** FUNNY *** MOUTH, and go take ur flashy fanboy *** back to BMW and MERCEDES, quit being uptight bitches, and if someone needs help either help them or take ur mouse, and click the big black X. little kids got this down better then u grown men, "if u dont have anything nice(helpful) to say dont say anything at all" ******* Bamby is simple ****, and ur funny and sad.

FelixIsGod29X

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I hope the rant wasn't directed toward me. I thought stock turbo was only good for 12psi. Shows how much i know haha. I was planning on getting a stock clutch because when i do get my t2 motor im going to keep it pretty much stock.

R.O.D

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no, ur good, the first part was just what im running now. with a RB down pipe
(2.5'') and test pipe(3'') and 3'' catback, it flows very well. but the only thing that ppl expirience is boost creep, but i took my turbo out and to a machine shop, the guy there bored it out for me for like $100, i dont remember the exact size, but enough where the wastegate flap would still sit nicely. and im using an Apexi avcr, and have it set to.... id have to look, but i think its like 1.25 or so BAR at 60% duty cycle
and starts making boost and 3-3.5k all the way thru 7500, and never leaves
15psi. im actually extremely happy with how its running,

i just gotta tune my pocketlogger now, and lean it out a bit.

RotaryEvolution

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you compared prices of 2 different brands, XTD is a cheap ebay brand.

here is the $150 turbo kit made for your car

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-S...item5885815766

and 15psi on the stock turbo isn't ****, even those cheap *** XTDs will probably hold up just fine, and the OEM clutches i bet have more holding power than those do. i bought a cheap *** $170 clutch from kragen 6 years ago and it holds close to 300whp fine but i probably wouldn't try to see if it will bark in every gear by sidestepping and see if it lasts.

R.O.D

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no i wasnt comparing two brands, but the fact that the exedy ad showed that it could fit Probe, mx6, and 626. and i was wondering if it would fit. and i was showing an ad XTD for a probe clutch to possibly help someone that knew or might know, and i was considdering getting it if it was thought to fit to try something new, instead of walking in the footprints of everone else

andi found an xtd stg3 for Rx7 for 150 that im going with, what i was mainly curious about was IF they were interchaneable. now i know to ask everybody else and Jesus before i come here to ask

Hypertek

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dude you got a problem.. chill with that ****.

People giving you advice.. No one knows if taking short cuts by going with a clutch for a different car because its cheaper will work out, hence why everyone gives suggestions for the correct part and more affordable alternatives to source the correct part. The only way your going to find out is by being the first person to try it, and if the results are good, than post it and teach others. If you cant afford brand name parts, no need to call people "fanboys" just because they prefer the collective aspect of having this and that brand on their car.

besides that, XTD clutch for the rx7 should work out fine.

R.O.D

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ok 1) wasnt talking to the people that were giving advise.
2) i dont know that nobody knows because right off the bat ppl call me a cheap bastard.
3) the people that were giving advise i was replying to.
4) i didnt call anyone in particular a "fanboy" if they read that and get pissed then that says something.
5) theres a difference between being collective, and paying too much for wire loom.
6) SIGNATURE...
7)dont tell me too chill with that ****, theres people on here that are ********, u ask a question and some people automaticly wanna put it in ur ***, cause you didnt know, or like something different

I did manage to find out for sure (which i think someone said) that the clutches are the same.
and i called a shop that deals with rx7s often and the guy told me that the press. plates were two different part numbers. im trying to contact the guy that made that ebay ad about the Exedy, so maybe he'll fix it before someone, like me, ends up ordering the wrong stuff

RotaryEvolution

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wah

this whole thread makes no sense then, so what was the point again? think rx7 clutches may someday be nonexistent and we will have to use for probe clutches?

re-read your first post from a third party perspective, it looks smells and feels like you are a cheap bastard and nothing else until you tried to make it sound like there was an ulterior motive such as finding out if they were the same clutch for some off reason. even if it is i doubt the throwout bearing and pilot bearing are the same.

i know i sure am not going to bother trying to see if a probe clutch fits unless it happens to be the only way to get a new clutch.