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Old 01-12-07, 03:33 PM
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I beleive I'm mostly done with the spoiler, please tell me what you think...

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if you need more measurements just check out the service manual in the body section,

http://coconut.se/fc3s/factoryservic...s4/14_BODY.pdf

last pages of that pdf-file.
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Some things about the model are still bugging me...that's what is holding me up from detailing...still not quite happy with the body yet...

But here's a pic of all the normals aligned, and an actual wire mesh model rather than the smoothed one.

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Old 01-12-07, 06:36 PM
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Check out ebaymotors.com for tons of pictures. That's where I got these. I could only find S5 convertibles, but the differences between S4 and S5 are the same whether its convertible or coupe.

S4: years 86-88
S5: years 89-91

Exception: 1988 10th Anniversary - Has S5 mirrors and painted S4 tail lights, as well as different badges.

People like to put the S5 stuff on their S4 cars, so sometimes you may see the S5 mirrors or bumper on an S4.

Send me a PM if you want a specific pic of an S4. I have 2 stock S4 cars. One is primered, so the details show a little better in pics than a glossy car would.

Here are some S4s:
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Old 01-12-07, 06:37 PM
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Here are some S5s:
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your rear bumper should pull together near the bottom a little bit if that makes sense. check out the pics of the rear of the s4's valdez posted.
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Originally Posted by stevensimon
your rear bumper should pull together near the bottom a little bit if that makes sense. check out the pics of the rear of the s4's valdez posted.
I agree. Now that you mention it, I see it too. The S5 looks like it tapers in as well.
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Originally Posted by micaheli
Holy ****, are you serious!? RTFT! (Read the ******* thread!)

Wow quite angry are we. Just a question lol.
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Originally Posted by VT_Rx7
Wow quite angry are we. Just a question lol.
heh, yeah a question that has already been answered atleast a dozen times in this thread.
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WOW! I just took a beginning Maya class and, wow, nice work. I wish I had the patience to make my own car in maya
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Please tell me you can use your model to import it with
http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/

So I can drive it with GTR 2!?!?!
GTR 2

Looking great so far!!! Would be great to be able to put it to good use !!

Would you be able to try it with your FD model if you have any time??

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Did you want to do a specific trim package as it would have come from the factory? Or were you going to go a little custom picking the parts you favor from various trim styles?
Other than the differences between S4 and S5 models, there are the various trim packages that span both series, with various exceptions through the years. Things such as rear wiper/no rear wiper, moon roof/no moon roof (rare), wheels, badges, and of course the things you already have in you model, spoiler and turbo hood.
Let us know what you are shooting for and we can give you the specifics with pictures to illustrate.
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I think your spoiler should reach a little more forward on the sides, but thats about all i can see that isnt just right. Man this is looking good!




Also, are you saying you need pictures of the angles you posted here? If so I will try to take some from angles like that tomorrow.
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only things im seeing are the wing isnt so rounded on the sides its more of a 1/2 rectangle, and the front bumper looks odd, may just be the ftp lenses not being there yet, but it looks 240 esque
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the thing you dont seem to get, is wihought the co called "detail" we cant point out mistakes that well. It's like puttin a form fit car cover over it.... get what i mean?
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Okay...so I was WOW'ed by the number of responces so soon...but I will post a reply to ALL of those right now, so long post time...

Originally Posted by Valdez
Check out ebaymotors.com for tons of pictures. That's where I got these. I could only find S5 convertibles, but the differences between S4 and S5 are the same whether its convertible or coupe.

S4: years 86-88
S5: years 89-91

Exception: 1988 10th Anniversary - Has S5 mirrors and painted S4 tail lights, as well as different badges.

People like to put the S5 stuff on their S4 cars, so sometimes you may see the S5 mirrors or bumper on an S4.

Send me a PM if you want a specific pic of an S4. I have 2 stock S4 cars. One is primered, so the details show a little better in pics than a glossy car would.

Here are some S4s:
I'll try that suggestion, thanks Valdez, and as in terms of the pictures, I will be examining them very detailedly....nice word huh?

Anyway I hope that I won't screw it up too badly...this is now the hard part of the car making process...

Originally Posted by CKDezines
WOW! I just took a beginning Maya class and, wow, nice work. I wish I had the patience to make my own car in maya
Thank you.

Originally Posted by mrayner
Please tell me you can use your model to import it with
http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/

So I can drive it with GTR 2!?!?!
GTR 2

Looking great so far!!! Would be great to be able to put it to good use !!

Would you be able to try it with your FD model if you have any time??
Exporting huh? Well I could try it, when I go to my friend's house tonight I'll see what I can do for ya.

Originally Posted by Valdez
Did you want to do a specific trim package as it would have come from the factory? Or were you going to go a little custom picking the parts you favor from various trim styles?
Other than the differences between S4 and S5 models, there are the various trim packages that span both series, with various exceptions through the years. Things such as rear wiper/no rear wiper, moon roof/no moon roof (rare), wheels, badges, and of course the things you already have in you model, spoiler and turbo hood.
Let us know what you are shooting for and we can give you the specifics with pictures to illustrate.
Umm...in terms of the trim and all, I have never seen more of an FC than driving besides one on the road, and I've passed two of them in Vancouver, that's pretty much it...

So I really do need to get up and close and see the differences between all the packages before I know what I am doing....

I think the blueprints I have is an 87, so whatever is around that package I would love to know...

Originally Posted by 88turbotime
I think your spoiler should reach a little more forward on the sides, but thats about all i can see that isnt just right. Man this is looking good!

Also, are you saying you need pictures of the angles you posted here? If so I will try to take some from angles like that tomorrow.
Not quite sure what you mean on that, and also I would love it if you would take pictures for me and get them all set up.

Originally Posted by DREYKO
only things im seeing are the wing isnt so rounded on the sides its more of a 1/2 rectangle, and the front bumper looks odd, may just be the ftp lenses not being there yet, but it looks 240 esque
I see what you mean with the spoiler, and I will work on that.

As far as the front bumper, I'm really not sure quite what you mean by "ftp lenses"??

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the thing you dont seem to get, is wihought the co called "detail" we cant point out mistakes that well. It's like puttin a form fit car cover over it.... get what i mean?
Actually I have gotten a lot of help from people, you can see the body details already, just the outline of the door is a body detail, which I have that, I'm starting to finish the body style as well.

It may be hard to point out details, but it still can be done.

Thank you all for your comments, suggestions, and help you have offered.
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One thing I see is that the area marked below is concave instead of convex; especially at the fender flares.

Unfortunately my camera broke so I can't take any pictures right now....


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Old 01-13-07, 03:38 PM
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So what are you saying exactly?
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Sounds like your blue prints are for an 1987 Turbo II. That would have the S4 black trim and black mirrors, S4 bumpers and tail lights. Moon roof, rear wiper, and 5 bolt wheels.
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That's semi what I've been told, well if you could just get me pictures of that, that would be amazing.
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Ok, i was not able to take those pictures today, so in the mean time i will point out some of the differences between the S4 (1986-88) and S5 (1989-up).

First is the front bumper.

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Then the tail lights. The S4 tail lights are pretty much just 4 rectangles, while the S5 tails are different and have circles in them.

S4:


S5:


also notice the trim that goes all the way around the car is black on the S4 and is body-colored on the S5. The rear bumper cover is also a little different, but the difference is pretty small.

The red S5 i used as an example belongs to Ddub.


The mirrors are also different. There were several different mirror styles, but i will show you the TurboII mirrors, since that is the car you are making.

S4:


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^that S5 (and FD) belong to 1SxyRXy. It is also a good example of the front bumper and the body-colored trim.


I hope that helps.
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That helps amazingly, everyone kept saying there was a difference but now I know what it is, thank you...

That is amazing in terms of help; I must give props.
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Anyone know of a driver around southwest WA, Northern oregon? I would love to see an S4 in real life and figure out how the body lines go...
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Okay, since I got pics of the S4, I've been looking at the body, I found an error between what I had and an S4, here is my model, circled where i changed, then a pic of an S4...

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