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01-11-09, 05:09 PM
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in other words, I'm rebuilding my FC with a 20B
01-11-09, 05:13 PM
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I'm expecting about $10'000, $15'000 at most
$2200USD for 20B+tranny (all 20b's had auto's)
$650USD for shipping
$449USD for ECU (you will not find a ECU to control the 20b for under $1500)
$525USD for wire harness (harness comes with the ECU, needs to be wired)
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$4000USD total
rest of $6000 for custom parts and everything else (What the hell are custom parts?)
$2200USD for 20B+tranny (all 20b's had auto's)
$650USD for shipping
$449USD for ECU (you will not find a ECU to control the 20b for under $1500)
$525USD for wire harness (harness comes with the ECU, needs to be wired)
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$4000USD total
rest of $6000 for custom parts and everything else (What the hell are custom parts?)
Motor mounts $250
Turbo II drivetrain swap $600
ECU $1500
Turbo $2300
Turbo manifold $3000
Wastegate $600
Downpipe and exhaust $1000
Fuel System(fuel pumps, stainless lines, AN fittings, fuel rails and injectors) $2000
Parts not listed $4000
Good luck.
01-11-09, 05:22 PM
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Your in almost $3000 and the car still doesn't run right. You can't seem fix an idle issue so your building a custom 20B turbo. Well at least you'll be able to put that 10,000rpm gauge cluster to use.
Good luck buddy, make sure to keep us posted on the progress.
Good luck buddy, make sure to keep us posted on the progress.
01-11-09, 05:32 PM
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You might want to think about taking it too another mechanic, you wouldn't want someone who is under experienced to be working on your car and charging you for things that you don't need replaced, especially with rotary engines, I have had some mechanics who are very experienced tell me some weird things when I asked if they knew how to do proper work on a rotary.
Given by your initial post I take you are a student, I dont know how your monetary situation is, but given as most students don't have too much cash for their cars a 20B as the others stated can get pricey, not to mention other mods you might have not foreseen coming up. I would suggest simply reading up as much as you can on this site about your options before you go ahead with anything yet. Get the car running good and save the money while you can, buy the Haynes repair manual and do some of the repairs yourself, most people on this forum give excellent advice as well on what to do if you run into problems you cannot diagnose.
These cars are great to have fun with, but as you have already learned they have little quirks here and there and they are old. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with the car and have fun with it.
Given by your initial post I take you are a student, I dont know how your monetary situation is, but given as most students don't have too much cash for their cars a 20B as the others stated can get pricey, not to mention other mods you might have not foreseen coming up. I would suggest simply reading up as much as you can on this site about your options before you go ahead with anything yet. Get the car running good and save the money while you can, buy the Haynes repair manual and do some of the repairs yourself, most people on this forum give excellent advice as well on what to do if you run into problems you cannot diagnose.
These cars are great to have fun with, but as you have already learned they have little quirks here and there and they are old. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with the car and have fun with it.
01-11-09, 05:42 PM
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<s>Engine rebuild $5000</s>
Motor mounts $250
Turbo II drivetrain swap <s>$600</s> $400
<s>ECU $1500</s> I said I found one
Turbo $2300 I have yet to decide on one
Turbo manifold <s>$3000</s> $2000 at most because I'm going with a single turbo modification
Wastegate $600 haven't decided on one yet
Downpipe and exhaust $1000
<s>Fuel System(fuel pumps, stainless lines, AN fittings, fuel rails and injectors) $2000</s> mods I'm not really concerned about
<s>Parts not listed $4000</s> $2000
Good luck.
Motor mounts $250
Turbo II drivetrain swap <s>$600</s> $400
<s>ECU $1500</s> I said I found one
Turbo $2300 I have yet to decide on one
Turbo manifold <s>$3000</s> $2000 at most because I'm going with a single turbo modification
Wastegate $600 haven't decided on one yet
Downpipe and exhaust $1000
<s>Fuel System(fuel pumps, stainless lines, AN fittings, fuel rails and injectors) $2000</s> mods I'm not really concerned about
<s>Parts not listed $4000</s> $2000
Good luck.
01-11-09, 05:43 PM
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01-11-09, 05:45 PM
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01-11-09, 05:45 PM
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Well, if your fuel system is a "mod you're not concerned about" then you are planning to fail. Add $10,000 to your budget to replace the motor you just blew.
And again, your "ECU" will not run your 20b, sorry.
What clutch are you going to use?
And again, your "ECU" will not run your 20b, sorry.
What clutch are you going to use?
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01-11-09, 05:48 PM
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well look at what you did, all based on a rebuild and all performance. Nobody said that rebuilds are cheap, and besides... my main concerns are the "must do and must have"
01-11-09, 05:52 PM
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You might want to think about taking it too another mechanic, you wouldn't want someone who is under experienced to be working on your car and charging you for things that you don't need replaced, especially with rotary engines, I have had some mechanics who are very experienced tell me some weird things when I asked if they knew how to do proper work on a rotary.
Given by your initial post I take you are a student, I dont know how your monetary situation is, but given as most students don't have too much cash for their cars a 20B as the others stated can get pricey, not to mention other mods you might have not foreseen coming up. I would suggest simply reading up as much as you can on this site about your options before you go ahead with anything yet. Get the car running good and save the money while you can, buy the Haynes repair manual and do some of the repairs yourself, most people on this forum give excellent advice as well on what to do if you run into problems you cannot diagnose.
These cars are great to have fun with, but as you have already learned they have little quirks here and there and they are old. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with the car and have fun with it.
Given by your initial post I take you are a student, I dont know how your monetary situation is, but given as most students don't have too much cash for their cars a 20B as the others stated can get pricey, not to mention other mods you might have not foreseen coming up. I would suggest simply reading up as much as you can on this site about your options before you go ahead with anything yet. Get the car running good and save the money while you can, buy the Haynes repair manual and do some of the repairs yourself, most people on this forum give excellent advice as well on what to do if you run into problems you cannot diagnose.
These cars are great to have fun with, but as you have already learned they have little quirks here and there and they are old. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with the car and have fun with it.
01-11-09, 06:00 PM
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http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/20b.html
Bare essentials to get this motor running in your car. Congrats, you just spent 10k to make 300 hp.
Bare essentials to get this motor running in your car. Congrats, you just spent 10k to make 300 hp.
01-11-09, 06:08 PM
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Well, if your fuel system is a "mod you're not concerned about" then you are planning to fail. Add $10,000 to your budget to replace the motor you just blew.
<s>And again, your "ECU" will not run your 20b, sorry.</s> says who? 20B stock ECU won't work for a stock 20B?
What clutch are you going to use?
<s>And again, your "ECU" will not run your 20b, sorry.</s> says who? 20B stock ECU won't work for a stock 20B?
What clutch are you going to use?
haven't decided on a clutch yet
01-11-09, 06:54 PM
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01-11-09, 07:08 PM
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well rested,buffet o food
All people are saying is that in order to be realistic, you need to understand how much this is going to cost prior to the build. Thinking you are gonna get out of this cheaper than 20,000 dollars is gonna bite you down the road. I do wish you the best, but paying someone to fabricate peripherals, and wire this thing is going to be hella time consuming and expensive.
Good luck though.
john ny
Good luck though.
john ny
01-12-09, 11:20 AM
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so I just talked to my mechanic again just now, and I need some serious help with this thing...
The main problem is that my FC still surges and still having problems with the idle.
What's wrong more specifically?
1) engine surges
2) some times when you step on the gas pedal, nothing happens.
3) I need an diagnosis ASAP
Bottom line, this is what's been going on.
-New Idle Control Valve was installed, yet nothing changed.
-New Fuel Pressure regulator was installed and yet nothing changed.
-Fuel Pump is running normal, nothing changed.
-Fuel Injectors were cleaned and nothing changed.
-New Spark Plugs installed along with the full tune up, nothing changed.
-Each vacuum seal was checked at least 2 times.
-New Throttle Pressure Sensor was installed and yet again nothing has changed.
-Pedals are fine.
I'm assuming the for the worse case senario.
Got ideas or know what's wrong, lets hear it.
The main problem is that my FC still surges and still having problems with the idle.
What's wrong more specifically?
1) engine surges
2) some times when you step on the gas pedal, nothing happens.
3) I need an diagnosis ASAP
Bottom line, this is what's been going on.
-New Idle Control Valve was installed, yet nothing changed.
-New Fuel Pressure regulator was installed and yet nothing changed.
-Fuel Pump is running normal, nothing changed.
-Fuel Injectors were cleaned and nothing changed.
-New Spark Plugs installed along with the full tune up, nothing changed.
-Each vacuum seal was checked at least 2 times.
-New Throttle Pressure Sensor was installed and yet again nothing has changed.
-Pedals are fine.
I'm assuming the for the worse case senario.
Got ideas or know what's wrong, lets hear it.