2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

"The Fast and The Furious" question?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-12-02 | 11:20 PM
  #1  
BoOsTin FD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Powered by** Rotary
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,369
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
"The Fast and The Furious" question?

I was just wondering what kind of whistle sound did that green eclipse make whenever he reved the engine?? Was that the exhaust or what? It sounds kind of cool and i was just wondering is that possible to do on our 2nd gen rx7's??
Old 02-12-02 | 11:22 PM
  #2  
Node's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,383
Likes: 3
From: Stinson Beach, Ca
its a part of the turbo system, its called a wastegate, it vents excess exhaust gas. I think it was wastegate at least
Actually that was a N/A eclipse in the movie, and if you have a Turbo 2 your car can do that.
Old 02-12-02 | 11:35 PM
  #3  
BoOsTin FD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Powered by** Rotary
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,369
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
well i think he said that that eclipse had to4 turbo and rest of the stuff. Now how much does that cost for t2?
Old 02-12-02 | 11:39 PM
  #4  
ACTION RT's Avatar
G35 FTW
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,689
Likes: 0
From: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Talking hey dude...

Welcome to the forum,


how much for a TII???

You have one in your sig buddy, so you already own one! haha.

Lets see some pics of you car by the way.

Like Node said it is a large wastegate. Like lets the excess air out??(correct me ppl)

Alot of the stuff in that movie was "simulated" not real.

Action RT
Old 02-12-02 | 11:44 PM
  #5  
BoOsTin FD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Powered by** Rotary
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,369
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
I'm not new to the forum i only changed the name. I don't want to post picture of my car, cause most of you think it's rice, and i really don't care what other people think as long as i like it.

Now that wastegate, i have to run larger turbo in order to have that right? How much something like that might cost?
Old 02-12-02 | 11:47 PM
  #6  
Ryde _Or_Die's Avatar
...
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,539
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL
You don't get that with your BOV? Might want to try another kind. My friends stock VR4 makes the sound, but not all that loud.
Old 02-12-02 | 11:48 PM
  #7  
Barwick's Avatar
SCCA Rookie
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 1,936
Likes: 0
From: Sterling Heights, MI
isn't that a blow-off valve?
Old 02-12-02 | 11:51 PM
  #8  
BoOsTin FD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Powered by** Rotary
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,369
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
I have a BOV and Bov makes sound when i change gears or whenver i boost it and release accelator, but this sound that eclipse has it's making like a whistle when it's idling and reving it. I mean i'm sure you all saw the movie, just watch the big race and when he unscrews the bottles of the nos.
Old 02-12-02 | 11:57 PM
  #9  
Ryde _Or_Die's Avatar
...
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,539
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL
Originally posted by BoOsTin FC
I have a BOV and Bov makes sound when i change gears or whenver i boost it and release accelator, but this sound that eclipse has it's making like a whistle when it's idling and reving it. I mean i'm sure you all saw the movie, just watch the big race and when he unscrews the bottles of the nos.
Well i don't think there should be any sounds like that when at idle. I got the dvd here so I will try to see what you are talking about sometime.
Old 02-12-02 | 11:57 PM
  #10  
rx7_turbo2's Avatar
Professor D.P
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,804
Likes: 1
From: Earth
If you have a turbo car you have a wastegate. It's just internal. The external wastegates make more noise. As for the movie that whistling sound could have been someone blowing through a flute, I would'nt take anything in that film for reality, they made so much bullshit up it wasnt funny.
Old 02-13-02 | 12:01 AM
  #11  
BoOsTin FD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Powered by** Rotary
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,369
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
hehehe, ok guys i get it. I did hear that most of those sounds were added on but, i was just curious. Thanks
Old 02-13-02 | 12:19 AM
  #12  
Node's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,383
Likes: 3
From: Stinson Beach, Ca
Aren't you the guy with the blue FC with white stripes? And wait, are you saying you'll get a bigger turbo to get a bigger wastegate so it whistles? Just buy the speaker wastegate Probably cheaper, but not by much
Old 02-13-02 | 12:22 AM
  #13  
TheTwinTurboRX-7's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
From: Raymond, ME / New Orleans, LA
Cool

Well all the sound you heard from that car was fake. It is not turbo, does not have a turbo. I saw it at a car show round here. No turbo, none at all. Just a plain old eclipse.
Old 02-13-02 | 12:24 AM
  #14  
MazzyMan's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Little Island
Hi guys...here you guys chatting about wastegates...well i am using a Trust 40mm one one my FC and frankly had it vented to atmosphere and geeezzz...the sound it makes is really a killer!!!

Had enough of the noise so plugged it back to the exhaust system...now i get a kinda cool whine while on boost!!!

Old 02-13-02 | 12:28 AM
  #15  
Ryde _Or_Die's Avatar
...
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,539
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL
Originally posted by TheTwinTurboRX-7
Well all the sound you heard from that car was fake. It is not turbo, does not have a turbo. I saw it at a car show round here. No turbo, none at all. Just a plain old eclipse.
The car actually does have a Turbo. It is a GS eclipse with a turbo kit added on. Think they sold it to someone, maybe the one you saw was a remake or an extra used in the movie.
Old 02-13-02 | 12:40 AM
  #16  
BoOsTin FD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Powered by** Rotary
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,369
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
Node I'm the guy with White rx7 and blue stripes not the other way around, and i was just wondering about that whistle sound, you don't always have to give me your smart answer whenever i ask something.
Thanks anyway.
Old 02-13-02 | 12:54 AM
  #17  
Evil Aviator's Avatar
Rotorhead
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 9,136
Likes: 39
From: Charlottesville, Virginia, USA
Weld & tap a bung on your DP and screw in a metal whistle.
Old 02-13-02 | 01:04 AM
  #18  
importboi22's Avatar
Hks Ownz Me (
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,489
Likes: 0
From: corona,CA
lol ever heard a inline fuel pump like MSD's or paxtons it whistles louder than **** and gets annoying my friend's accord has a bosch inline right behind the drivers seat and you can hear that thing all the time.
wwwwweeeeeeeeennnnnnnZZZZZZZ it gets louder the more you go up in rpms and if you have it nailed
Old 02-13-02 | 01:06 AM
  #19  
Node's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,383
Likes: 3
From: Stinson Beach, Ca
Originally posted by Evil Aviator
Weld & tap a bung on your DP and screw in a metal whistle.
http://home.attbi.com/~meanrex7/BlitzBOV.mpeg
Old 02-13-02 | 01:53 AM
  #20  
MIKE-P-28's Avatar
Driven a turbo FB lately?
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,444
Likes: 0
From: Fort Branch, Indiana
When a BOV makes that PSSSSHHHH sound isnt that the turbo crying help me, please no more boost?
Old 02-13-02 | 01:59 AM
  #21  
Erik's Avatar
Best of both worlds
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,423
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die


The car actually does have a Turbo. It is a GS eclipse with a turbo kit added on. Think they sold it to someone, maybe the one you saw was a remake or an extra used in the movie.

they might have had an extra one...but i have an older magazine where they review the car from the movie and it has NO turbo...just a GS with NOS...

also, look at the car in the movie...anytime it drives by...there is no FMIC...just the open hole. now, they "could" have used the stock DSM intercooler mounted behind the front wheel well...but i don't see the point in that
Old 02-13-02 | 05:36 AM
  #22  
Merovign's Avatar
Full Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: Sacramento, CA
Whew - never knew turbos were so confusing...

As I understand it:

Wastegates, usually built into Turbo (sometimes external) - send excess exhaust gases around the turbine to control turbine speed, and thus boost pressure - over a certain pressure, the gases go around and the turbine stays at the same speed as pressure increases. Venting this into the engine compartment would be a BAD idea, unless you like engine fires. This is why they're usually internal. External ones are sometimes plumbed into the exhaust because they're replaceable, and for all I know more adjustable or durable.

BOV, Blow-Off-Valves, attached to piping between turbo and intake, vents excess pressure when throttle butterflies close and turbo is still producing boost (i.e. when you let off the throttle and the turbo is still spinning fast, it keeps trying to force air into the closed throttle). Without the BOV, the extra pressure would feed back to the turbine, forcing it to decelerate faster and thus increasing wear on the turbine and bearings, and possibly leak past the throttle body or cause it to wear faster.

If it whistles when the throttle is let off (i.e. during shifts) it's a BOV. If it whistles as revs climb but stops when they fall, it's a wastegate and you're on fire.
A wastegate vented to atmosphere on a rotary would be incredibly loud (and probably on an Eclipse too...)

From the looks of F&F, I'd say that was an Eclipse GS-T, FWD. I didn't look it up, just a guess. It would be cheaper than converting a non-turbo.

I still don't buy two civics with no tube frames or slicks jumping off the line with a modified RX-7 TT and then the "GSX", RX-7, and civics holding steady to 140mph.

But, of course, listing the problems with that movie would go over the post length limit...
Old 02-13-02 | 09:13 AM
  #23  
ZachSpazz's Avatar
I wish I had a posse...
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 896
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, Ohio-Boycott Central
Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
When a BOV makes that PSSSSHHHH sound isnt that the turbo crying help me, please no more boost?
No, the turbo is just saying "OOoooohhh yeah! I'm doing a super job of making power for my handsome owner and his beautiful car!"

Old 02-13-02 | 09:20 AM
  #24  
BoostedRotors's Avatar
I HATE sleepy eyes
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,180
Likes: 0
From: Birmingham, AL
Originally posted by BoOsTin FC
Node I'm the guy with White rx7 and blue stripes not the other way around, and i was just wondering about that whistle sound, you don't always have to give me your smart answer whenever i ask something.
Thanks anyway.
Is your car the white with blue stripes tll that was for sale and says Mazda on the side in big blue letters, clear taillights i believe, and sleepy eyes?? not cracking on it, just asking. It was for sale on the parts trader? just wondering.
Old 02-13-02 | 09:23 AM
  #25  
1FastT2's Avatar
Rotary Freak
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,790
Likes: 0
From: Sinking Spring Pa.
FYI: a wastegate does not make noise, a BOV does but a wastegate does not make that noise that you hear in the movie.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19 PM.