ok.. well, the new motor is in... still need to throw in the fuel system, intercooler piping, and the exhaust.... along w/ getting the microtec, msd, meth. injection, boost controller, fuel pump, and fd alternator all wired up.... less than one month before this thing needs to get finished!

ok.. need help here! installed a brand new clutch master cylinder, stainless clutch line, and new slave cylinder.... but when i went to bleed the system, nothing happened... i pumped the pedal id say a thousand times... tried opening the bleed valve on the slave, nothing.. even took off the hard line on the master, and pumped the pedal, and no fluid moved at all... so was i supposed to do a bench bleed on the master? what did i do wrong, and what will fix it so i have pressure?


heres the pics

 

Everything looks good so far, Just a few pointers...look into installing a turbo blanket and separate your wires, keep each wire spaced from another to prevent interference. Other than that...looks like a beast.

 

why did you change the engine bay from orange to flat black? also, with a microtech you can get rid of and sell that pressure sensor.

edit: by the way, looks great!

 

sepereate the plug wires? makes sense... ill go buy some of those billet spacers... and a turbo blanket is on the list of "need-to-get".. thanx for the advice!

 

I like the flat black engine bay, i like flat black so much im painting my whole car that color..haha...looks good vipers

 

well, the orange was just a spray paint, and it didnt match the other orange at all... and was chipping off...... i had a painter who was supposed to paint my bay gloss black w/ true fire airbrushed in a few areas... but he decided at the last minute to take a 1 month vacation to mexico... so i decided to at least paint it sandable black primer until after sevenstock, then i can pull everything back out and have him paint it... alot of work, but should be worth it in the end....

oh, and i realized i put the sensor on later in the day (stupid me ) .. my avc-r has its own pressure sensor anyways.. and so does my microtec.... so ill take it off when i go back to work on it next sunday

 

That is super clean.

 

Wow... that sounds really odd... You should just be able to connect everything and then pump away. If the master cylinder is good, then it should atleast kick the fluid out of the bleed screw of the slave cylinder. I am going to assume that there arent any leaks in the system (that would be so messy that you would have to notice it) so I am going to think that the issue is with the master cylinder. Check the piston and make sure that it is moving free. Is the master cylinder brand new or a brand new reman (yes they do sell them?) Do you still have your old one? Try hooking it up and see what happens.

As for the engine bay.... It is extra sexy... Good job bro I love it.

 

yeah, all 3 parts are brand new.. not remanufactured.... i paid more for them in hopes of not having the "faulty reman" headache.... there are absolutely no leaks... just nothing coming out of the master.... could it be the rod that goes into the cylinder? i accidentally unscrewed it not knowing it didnt need to be... and theres an adjustment screwon it that i thought i had it back where it was, but could this be the problem?

 

try filling the master and making a contraption to the cap to force a little air in, this should get the air out unless the line from the master is plugged up somehow. you can also use a vacuum pump on the outlet end if you have one.

 

Bench bleeding the cylinders help a lot. If they are in the car already have a friend pump the pedal and hold you finger on the line outlet. (take the lines off). By doing this frees the air bubble. The correct way to bench bleed it is to connect a hose from the hose outlet back to the reservor to bleed the cylinders free of air before installing it. Most of the time the master cylinders come with plastic bleeder fitting for bench bleeding. Clean car by the way....

 

sweet, i like the black engine bay. brings more attention to the super clean motor

 

that looks sweet man! I like the black engine bay also. When do you expect to get your new hood?

 

in no huge hurry for the hood... still havnt decided which car its going on yet... but i figure when ken is done shipping them to the people that need them fast, ill go pick mine up.. hows your car coming?

 

well, im still in iraq, so absolutly zero work has been done....i was supposed to be home a month ago. Ive got EvERYTHING i need for it, except a rebuild.

 

oh... also, im using dot 4 synthetic brake fluid.... could that be a factor in my problem


88t2romad.. bummer.... arent you dropping your car off at revvin's shop? or is he just building your turbo system?

 

Well personally, out of all of the cars that I have worked on I have never bench bled a clutch master cylinder, only the brake master cylinder. The only reason that it is necessary on a brake system is because you are dealing with alot more lines and the fluid has to cover a greater distance so that little distance supposedly saves you alot of time in bleeding the system (IMNHO this only helps with the brakes also when you are trying to bleed them by yourself... If I have a partner I never do it.) Since, the clutch hydrolic system is so short, if you are using a brand new master cylinder it should be able to build up a good amount of pressure just from pumping. For instance, when I installed a new Tokico slave and master clutch cylinder and a SS braided clutch line on my vert about a month ago, I just pumped the pedal about 20-30 times and it built up the pressure enough to make the pedal "hard." From there on I just had my assistant keep pumping away while I opened and closed the bleeder valve accordingly and removed all of the air out of the system. I am not telling you not to try bench bleeding it, but I am saying that it shouldnt be necessary on this type of system.

 

car is in alaska, hes just doing some work on manifold/lines/DP/wastegate

-ben

 

i don't bench bleed anything unless i really feel like it. gravity bleeding is almost always sufficient unless some retard put the thing together and pinched something internally.

 

Since I'm no mechanical guru (I just learn from experience), I would suggest that you take the master-cylinder off, put a little fluid in it while you're holding it, and then manually push on it's cylinder with your fingers (where the "clutch rod" goes). Like literally just pump on that sucker and watch as it sprays fluid out from where the hard-line screws in...

Once you've established that the master-cylinder indeed pumps, install it in place, make sure the clutch-pedal rod is in place, and then pump on the open master-cylinder while it's in the engine bay. Just put a little fluid in there and watch as it geysers out into the engine bay.

Now that you've established that it can push fluid, pour a little more in, and then attach the clutch hard-line and S/S line--just don't install it to the slave yet (one step at a time). Repeat the pumping process with the clutch pedal and watch as it squirts fluid out the S/S line... Ok, now pour some more fluid in and attach it to the slave with the bleeder loose. Again watch as fluid goes everwhere as it sprays out of the open slave... Good!

Now you'll want to bleed it at the slave by having the slave open, pushing down the clutch, closing the slave, lifting the pedal and repeating the process, oh... 5 times. Then, you'll want to have the slave closed as you pump on the pedal (maybe with your hand) like 10 times--hopefully it'll get firm. If it's firm, have someone hold the pedal to the floor while you release the slave. Bleed it like this maybe 5 times making sure the pedal is down if the slave is open (so you don't suck any air in). Ok, even though you could be technically done, you should also bleed it at the hard-line directly above the master-cylinder.

Even though you've probably suceeded in getting all the air out of the master from all the nonsense I just told you to do, it's probably still wise to bleed from here, just to make sure. Making sure the master is bled is key.

Of course, this could be the hard, slow and retarded way to bleed your clutch--but you might as well cover all your bases instead of wondering why it's not working.

So yeah... This is how I solve problems. LOL

 

^experimenting for the win.

 

But he has such a nice engine bay.... and brake fluid strips paint.....

 

nice I wish I had the extra money to do that ****. Maybe I will see you next year when I move to cali with my wife and kid.

 

thanks everyone for th help and compliments!

eriksseven... ill have to give that a try... BUT, ill have to have a thousand towels completely surroundin the master so no fluid gets on my engine bay (worked too hard to have some fluid ruin it all )

 

cool..what part of cali are you miving to?