Drifting an FC?
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... how long u been drifting anyways? do u seriously think u can handle a 7 drifting? to tell u the truth, i've been drifting for 3 years... i started drifting in Japan with an 86 (cars are cheap there... WAY CHEAP!), then i wrecked it in the process... then i got me an S13 Silvia (240sx coupe)... wrecked it in the process... by the time i get a skyline GT-S (it's a rear wheel drive skyline), i can drift and compete with other drifters around Nagano and Saitama. and then i move here in Texas, got me a 7... to tell u the truth, i'm still scared to drift this **** even though it's an S5 NA coz i can't control it yet... and i've had this car for almost 6 months.
my point is, what the other guys are telling is true. they, and I of course, dont want to see u get urself hurt... learn how to do it first and get the basics and fundamentals. AE86's are good learning cars. S13's have the 50/50 weight ratio and a good basic drifting car. and skyline, well... i dont know... it's heavy and has a lot of horsepower but still fun to see sideways hehehe... and RX7's are in a whole different level.
my point is, what the other guys are telling is true. they, and I of course, dont want to see u get urself hurt... learn how to do it first and get the basics and fundamentals. AE86's are good learning cars. S13's have the 50/50 weight ratio and a good basic drifting car. and skyline, well... i dont know... it's heavy and has a lot of horsepower but still fun to see sideways hehehe... and RX7's are in a whole different level.
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yea AE86 and 240s are easier to drift...but they drift differently...i say learn to drift in the car you want to drift. personally i'd rather build my driving style with what im gonna be driving instead of build it on sumthign else and then switch...cuz you drive an fc WAY different than you drive a 240. but i cant stress enough my agreement on seat time...learn to drive ur car to its stock limits before pushing those limits and modifying it...
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hey look at the bright side about the new the gay & the curious movie...we'll all get to see cars drift with undercar light kits and 800 pound stereo systems...hopefully the floors dont fall out while they're racing!
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Anyone who claims the FC is a good platform for drifting is full of ****.
Get into an S13 and then see which one is a better platform.
The Nissan S-chassis stock is better except for power output versus an FC 13BT; an SR20DET takes care of that.
The FC needs to have a shimmed steering rack and major suspension tweaks to come even close to what an S13 can do drifting, period.
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Get into an S13 and then see which one is a better platform.
The Nissan S-chassis stock is better except for power output versus an FC 13BT; an SR20DET takes care of that.
The FC needs to have a shimmed steering rack and major suspension tweaks to come even close to what an S13 can do drifting, period.
-Ted
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i'd have to disagree...i think it hindges on personal preference and driving style...for some driving styles im sure the s chassis is better and for other maybe an fc, or an ae86, hell even a new mustang...all depends on the driver and what they like
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no hard feelings reted... but man, **** a 240..... yes they're easier to drift, thats why everyone and there mother drifts one... just because they're easier, doesn't mean they're better... that's like saying valcro strap shoes are better than lace up shoes... they're both shoes, but the valcro is easier to put on and strap up... but that doesn't mean they're better... ok so i don't know where i'm going with that.. but anyway... i think the 7 has way more style and can be set up just as well.. it just takes more time, sweat, and finess.... also drifting is partially car, but more so driver... plus i think there's a respect factor that goes along with sliding a 7 not everyone can...
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Originally Posted by RETed
Anyone who claims the FC is a good platform for drifting is full of ****.
Get into an S13 and then see which one is a better platform.
The Nissan S-chassis stock is better except for power output versus an FC 13BT; an SR20DET takes care of that.
The FC needs to have a shimmed steering rack and major suspension tweaks to come even close to what an S13 can do drifting, period.
-Ted
Get into an S13 and then see which one is a better platform.
The Nissan S-chassis stock is better except for power output versus an FC 13BT; an SR20DET takes care of that.
The FC needs to have a shimmed steering rack and major suspension tweaks to come even close to what an S13 can do drifting, period.
-Ted
Originally Posted by robtechfabrications
i'd have to disagree...i think it hindges on personal preference and driving style...for some driving styles im sure the s chassis is better and for other maybe an fc, or an ae86, hell even a new mustang...all depends on the driver and what they like
Originally Posted by BoostinmyS5
no hard feelings reted... but man, **** a 240..... yes they're easier to drift, thats why everyone and there mother drifts one... just because they're easier, doesn't mean they're better... that's like saying valcro strap shoes are better than lace up shoes... they're both shoes, but the valcro is easier to put on and strap up... but that doesn't mean they're better... ok so i don't know where i'm going with that.. but anyway... i think the 7 has way more style and can be set up just as well.. it just takes more time, sweat, and finess.... also drifting is partially car, but more so driver... plus i think there's a respect factor that goes along with sliding a 7 not everyone can...
my $0.02 is that all three of you are right. 240s are easily driftable. i know first hand, ive driven a friends 240 coupe and was able to get bent with ease. FC's can be difficult to learn, i know a few friends with FC's still struggling with it and they've owned theres for about 2 years, but some times that depends on the driver, i didnt really find it all that hard to start drifting in my FC except for id like maybe a little more power and a 2 way lsd, but thats because when i first stated it was a little difficult to get used to. i personally own a 86 GXL and i can drift it just fine now and prefer it over the 240 *dont get me wrong, im not saying im great but for a stock N/A 7 im dooing pretty good. or so i think*. the only mod i have done is get rid of the air box and change to a vibrant preformance filter. and this *CANNOT BE STRESSED ENOUGH* you need to know how to handle your car and be able to drive it well before deeply getting into drift. if you dont you can ruin your car or worse kill yourself. dont try to go too far past your limits and or abilitys. slowly work your way up that way your comfortable. adapt to your driving style to it. and youll figure this part out quickly but ill add it any ways. clutch kick to initiate drift will only get you wasting money to replace the clutch, and other parts seeing as its kinda hell on your drive line and other misc components. drifting alone is hard on the car. why make it worse.. some will figure out how to initiate drift with out the clutch and others will go through a clutch or 2 before figuring it out.
and please remember this is personal oppinion and experience. i too went through a clutch when i first learned. then i got some friends who knew better about drifting to let me ride along and i watched how they did it, and what they did. since then ive found no need for clutch kick, sept maby if im trying to change gears too quickly while sideways but i try my best not too seeing as i dont wana have to replace my clutch untill i get more power.. ive also read up on the net, theres alot of good sites that explain stuff like drifting and how to, and some even have videos interior and exterior cameras so you see it all. do your reasearch. theres plenty of info out there..
and just to recap if you some how missed it..
(RETed) ... yes 240s are easy to drift and a good platform to start with. as to weather its a better platform.. (robtechfabrications) all depends on the driver/owner and there style and wht they like. take me for example i like the shorter wheel base of the 7.. (BoostinmyS5)there are a ton of people that drift 240s and i too am starting to get sick of them myself.
if i hadent learned to drift in my FC i dont think i could have hoped in my friends 240 and got bent so easily. and it felt really weird exiting the drift and my friend that owns the car says that too, about the feel of the exit.
so there for it will come down what you want. every one has there own oppinion and is entitled to it.
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[QUOTE=wotnartd]Drifting is one part horsepower and five parts finesse.
0 parts horsepower 100% finesse. Any true drifter knows what I'm talking about and will agree. It doesn't take squat for horsepower. It takes skill!
0 parts horsepower 100% finesse. Any true drifter knows what I'm talking about and will agree. It doesn't take squat for horsepower. It takes skill!
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Originally Posted by robtechfabrications
i'd have to disagree...i think it hindges on personal preference and driving style...for some driving styles im sure the s chassis is better and for other maybe an fc, or an ae86, hell even a new mustang...all depends on the driver and what they like
The S13 / S14 is easier (learn) to drift for a beginner, period.
Once you get better at it, you should be able to drift anything.
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Originally Posted by BoostinmyS5
no hard feelings reted... but man, **** a 240..... yes they're easier to drift, thats why everyone and there mother drifts one... just because they're easier, doesn't mean they're better...
i think the 7 has way more style and can be set up just as well..
it just takes more time, sweat, and finess.... also drifting is partially car, but more so driver... plus i think there's a respect factor that goes along with sliding a 7 not everyone can...
Most "kids" can't afford it.
Respect factor is bullshit unless the spectator know how much of a pain the FC3S is to drift.
Most of the "kids" just want ***-end-out, lots of tire smoke, how close you can get to the wall, etc.
-Ted
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I have to pipe in again with just two words about drifting.
WEIGHT TRANSFER
Horse power is just a way to generate linier weight transfer along with your brakes
Steering is a way of generating lateral weight transfer
thats all.
eyecandy, thank you posting that i knew i saw it somewhere.
jana,
TR
WEIGHT TRANSFER
Horse power is just a way to generate linier weight transfer along with your brakes
Steering is a way of generating lateral weight transfer
thats all.
eyecandy, thank you posting that i knew i saw it somewhere.
jana,
TR
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Originally Posted by takahashiRyosukeFC3S
I have to pipe in again with just two words about drifting.
WEIGHT TRANSFER
WEIGHT TRANSFER
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Originally Posted by RETed
You must live in a foreign country where English is not your primary language...
If this is what you call "respectful"...
https://www.rx7club.com/engine-management-forum-37/seals-help-498399/
Granted, the last one wasn't as vulgar, but your sarcasm isn't funny.
...I would guess your idea of what an "incredible drifter" isn't consistent with what I would call you.
Now please, go away.
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If this is what you call "respectful"...
https://www.rx7club.com/engine-management-forum-37/seals-help-498399/
Granted, the last one wasn't as vulgar, but your sarcasm isn't funny.
...I would guess your idea of what an "incredible drifter" isn't consistent with what I would call you.
Now please, go away.
-Ted
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Originally Posted by RegMak
But for your info my friend you have never seen my drift skills. I will keep it at that.
http://www.driftsession.com/
This is who shows up here locally.
Are you saying you are a D1 caliber driver?
Can you do the things that are on the Drift Session website?
Yeah, I thought not...
-Ted
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Originally Posted by RETed
Respect factor is bullshit unless the spectator know how much of a pain the FC3S is to drift.
Most of the "kids" just want ***-end-out, lots of tire smoke, how close you can get to the wall, etc.
-Ted
i'm not referring to spectator, but more-so peers... and yes, people who are into drifting understand that FC's are more difficult to drift, as you and many others have mentioned...
O, and the only drifter that has "MAD SKILLZ" is Rhys "Mad Skillz" Millen..
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most spectators couldnt tell a 240 from an fc when it slides by anyways...
but its nice to be original...be one of the only FCs gettin is awn...and knowing you could hop in they're easy cars and show them up in their own car
but its nice to be original...be one of the only FCs gettin is awn...and knowing you could hop in they're easy cars and show them up in their own car
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And just for the record, I don't appreciate you guys stereotyping kids. Granted, most of the teenage population of America shouldn't be allowed to own cars, but there are some out there who are just as into these cars as you guys, and know just as much (not implying that I do). And while kids have less experience, everybody's gotta start somewhere. All you guys were kids once too.