zinx

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I've been thinking about what to do with my daily driven FC once the engine goes on it and I think it would be cool to make a bad *** NA rotary car to go along with my T-88 FD. So I’m thinking of going with a peripheral port motor. It would be expensive but all sorts of bad ***. Does anyone of the board have a "street driven" PP FC? Or know of any sites that depict one. I'm just basically wondering what parts have been used. I.e. drive train, engine management, intake, fuel

zinx

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I use the term "street driven" very loosly. It won't be my DD when it has a PP. I consider the 6-puck in my FD to very streetable.

Aesop Rock

Peri-Port, hmmm i doubt anyone would put that in a loose street driven category, i know i wouldn't, why not go Full Bridgeport?

zinx

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Well, if it drives, i can drive it on the street, thats my definition of steetable.

Why not a full bridge? Because a PP would be so damn cool.

Aesop Rock

agreed, but im not sure if an n/a ecu could even run a pport, wonder when Ted will see this

Parastie

The stock ECU can't, you have to change the entire intake manifold around when you go PPort. I hear it's also VERY loud.

Aesop Rock

VERY loud.

thats what COOL means

FDreaming

Bah, forget stock ECU Do some webbers on there! Carburater, FC, PP, street driven. Now tha would rock!

Also I demand you cut two holes in the hood so the "velocity stacks" from the PP manifold come out the hood like the old school fuel injected hot rods!

SDrotary-FC

pp don't seem to last to long either

zinx

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I wasn't thinking of using a stock ECU, that would just be retarded. I'm pretty sure there are a few teams out there runnning some P-ports, i think most of them run Micro's for their ECU. I was thinking about carbs, but i don't know, that was part of the reason for this post.

It figures i don't get any real uselful info. Not 1 reply has been useful. ****.

Impreza2RX7

It's not useful because it's not what you want to hear? I hope these two vehicles aren't your DDs, or you may end up walking to work quite often.. I would just rip the NA engine out, do a TII swap, and modify it moderately. I can gurantee you would be happier.. I'm quite certain a turbo rotary has more lowend and highend than a N/A PP..

RXciting

dude.. do you know where the power band in a PP is? and to take full advantage of that you have to put a very freeflowing and loud exhaust..

A: if you do it i hope there's no traffic in your area and you live on a road in the middle of nowhere cause taking off from a stop will get very annoying

B:i hope cops don't mind getting they windows blown in as you cruise by

if you wanna do it, like ppl said either carbed or get a stand alone, if you go stand along use something with alot of vacume bands

and as far as useless posts ppl already told you what you'd need to do.. except for the drivetrain.. but i guess you already know you'd probably want a turbo drivetrain

Mx6-Rx7 Addict

Well, what's your definition of a turbo rotary? is it stock port, street, or bridge? Stock turbo?? If stock port, it will have better bottem end, but a peripheral port N/A will have killer top end. I think that a peripheral port NA will have more top end then a turbo stock port, street, and bridge port. The power band is so much different.

Just my .2 cents.
Justin

Parastie

Killer top end being somewhere past 7K RPM, i don't see how that would be streetable.

And no, it would not have more power then a wild street or bridge port on a turbo.

PureSephiroth

p-port is not streetable. To try it is stupid. They are way too loud, peaky, and unreliable. Monster street port seems to be the cool thing to do on NA's these days.

BlaCkPlaGUE

eh sorry to bring this back from the dead, but once again it proves that I have searched for answers.

Does anyone know where to get an intake for the PP series engines? I've seen a lot of them fabbed up by pros, but what if your not a pro..
Why do you HAVE to have an aftermarket ecu, wouldn't an safc be good enoughe? why/why not?
What happens to the older intake passages, are they plugged up and only the new PP intake is used?

thx all.

scathcart

ALL PP intkes are custom-fabbed... Its not hard, its usually just a pair of bent pipes with a flange welded on. Anyone could easily make a PP intake "manifold... but making one that flows well and matches your powerband is another subject entirely.

Stock ECU will not run a PP for a lot of reasons, but here's the easiest:
-because it has a rev limiter at 8000. Why build an engine that makes no power at all below 7000 and then cut it out right in its powerband? The car would be useless in every sense of the word.
Not to mention that the ECU simply would not RUN the engine... period. It just wasn't designed for it. Do I really need to get into more specifics?

You block off the side ports with either a metal-based epoxy or with block off plates.

scathcart

Not as reliable as a periphereal port, or as powerful.

Full bridges should only really be reserved for racing in classes on which periphereal porting is not allowed.

scathcart

Look at the power levels they put out, though. If you kept the ports really small and made as much power as stock, the engine would last pretty long.

40,000 miles from a N/A PP is not unheard of.

scathcart

I think I know 5 N/A PP FC's off the top of my head that drive them on the street... They're not as unbearable as people think, and they make a good 250 or so hp to the tires with decent reliability.

You could eek it up much past 300 hp to the wheels, but then you lose that reliability.

Well-known forum member Banzaitoyota is about done with his daily-driven periphereal port FC project, if I am not mistaken...

boogerboy

racingbeat.com has the parts i think your looking for. well, atleast for a carbed set up.

Dom_C

how bout going with the semi-PPort? this keeps your side ports functional as well. And they sell an intake mani for it. You wouldn't have to fab your own. . I can't think off the top of my head who makes it. . The Mani is set up for a carb i beleive so FI would be out of the question. wouldn't that be badass though? Maybe even rig up the pport part of the mani to have a set of butterflys or something, then you wouldn't lose too much of your low end and you would still have the good top end.
Dom

BlaCkPlaGUE

Yea I've seen the RB PP housings... they're real nice, and cost the same it seems as a stock brand new housing. I was seriously thinking about doing a PP turbo in the long run, but realizing that I have to have an aftermarket ecu scares me. Why? becuase I have no idea how to use it, and only some idea how to install it.
wich brings me to another question.

Can anyone recommend any books on using an aftermarkey ecu?? I asked reted, but I don't think he got my pm..
I'd love to find a book on how to tune it, and how to install it, and the best positions etc for sensors etc.

anyone?
thank you!

Adam

Does anyone own a PP FC?



Well i can find you a PP'ed on fc.... I dont know what a PP fc is.:|

rs_1101

a peripheral port moves the intake ports from the intermediate housing to the rotor housing, hence the intake is located peripherally, like the exhaust is for much better intake dynamics