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Old 12-20-03, 01:51 PM
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cold air intake idea?

well as all of you know many of us choose to run piping to the front passenger side corner of the car and then down close to the ground and put a filter there. however this cause problems on a daily driver due to rain.

the second option is to add a cone filter to were the stock box is right now.

my idea (daily driver)
i want the actual cold air intak so i am planning on running piping all the way to the bottom. however to eliminate the rain problem i am thinking of having the pipe divid into two after the air sensor. the second one would be a cone were the stock box sits.

were i have split the pipe i would put some sort of vavle in it..so i would have to choose which one i want to run. the driver would have to switch the valve from under the hood.
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ohh and i do know about the aem bypass thing
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Look for the pics of our design.
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i beleive the intake piping has to be in 2/3 submerged under water to begin sucking up water....well i know that for piston engines
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Trust me I have driven into puddles more than once with the CAI installed. Nothing happened. My car is fine.
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doesn't having the AFM turned sideways cause problems? at least that's what i've heard. A woman competitor of mine races a second gen in SCCA and her car has the AFM oriented the same as yours.
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The car has zero problems with the AFM turned like that.
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That's a particularly bizarre solution to a non-existant problem. I don't even see how it's going to help. If you have the undertray in place (and it's silly not to) then the chances of the filter getting wet are slim to none. Your "bypass" is going to cause more problem than it cures.
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hey concerns about water are warranted. a friend of mine destroyed the engine in his neon by suking up watter in a puttle through a widely marketed cold air intake. dont say it cant happen to you, but i agree with NZconvertable that there are simpler ways of addressing the issue.
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A friend of mine blew up her accord after going through a puddle.
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so wut are these alternatives? buy a aem bypass?
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Just get the cold air headlight cover. Or make your own if you've got the tools and time.
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Why not just run piping from the front of the bumper up into a enclosed box around a cone filter. Odds are the water will not splash up through the tube that much and it certainly will not submerge it.
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1987rx7guy: i cant find your pics

revised idea.. make a heat sheild around the intake, run 3 inch piping from the front bumper to the bottom of the filter, and buy or make a headlight cover with a duct in it.
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Headlight covers are worthless half the time. The other half the spend trying and failing to provide enough cool outside air to the filter. The only way to get maximum air to the filter is to have it exposed to the oncomming air from the grill area. Our intake achieves that. If you have questions please ask them in my forum. CLick the pic in my sig
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driving my rx7 in the rain... um, for me that's a no no.

Dunno, will having the filter in the engine be that big of a difference HP wise compared to having it somewhat closer to direct air flow?

Would this work for those who want cold air without the water worries?
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Originally posted by neptuneRX
driving my rx7 in the rain... um, for me that's a no no.
Why not?
will having the filter in the engine be that big of a difference HP wise compared to having it somewhat closer to direct air flow?
Unless you have the the pod filter completely sealed off from rest of the engine bay with a duct feeding outside air, yes it will.
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Headlight covers are worthless half the time. The other half the spend trying and failing to provide enough cool outside air to the filter. The only way to get maximum air to the filter is to have it exposed to the oncomming air from the grill area. Our intake achieves that. If you have questions please ask them in my forum. CLick the pic in my sig

Can you advertise on the forum like this?



Also, RX-7's aren't like honda's, neon's, or any other piston engine car. They don't hydro lock! If by some miracle water can follow up threw your kinked intake, with bends worming it to your front bumper. If it does get water in the engine it will just run like crap for a second. And then once it passes the water, it is fine.


I want someone to get a vacume guage and put it on their intake with and without that assortment of bends putting your filter in your bumper, and see how much vacume it is causeing. I can't imageing that it would be worth it, seeing as how rx7guy tested his, and it only lowered his intake temp..... what 10 degree's?
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
Why not?
Unless you have the the pod filter completely sealed off from rest of the engine bay with a duct feeding outside air, yes it will.

I can't drive in the rain mainly because my windsheild fogs up like a female dog, and dunno how to fix that. Also I live in Maryland, I swear half the people here bought their license, and the other half a just plan retarded. Driving in perfect conditions is a challange for them, when it rain here the accident % increases drastically. And the hell to driving when it's snowing. When we got our first snow fall about 5 weeks ago, there were a total of 34 trailers that slide off the highway from where I live to Washington DC. that's about 1 and a half for every mile. And that's only trailers, that doesn't even count the amount of cars that slammed into each other. For anyone that lives in the DC area, you know what I'm talking about.

So driving in rain or snow is a no no....
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so u take the bus in the rain?
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no I drive the accord
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I am not advertising No one cares about the damn thing anyways. I was telling him to go there so he could see my design. ANd the numbers on my intake are NOT 10* difference. Normally it is 25-40* lower than the stock intake. That is BEFORE heatsoak starts which suprisingly affects the stock system more than our cold air intake.
BTW we also did magnehelic testing which is basically vaccume on the stock system and early next year we will have tests for the CAI and K&N drop in filter.

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Can you advertise on the forum like this?



Also, RX-7's aren't like honda's, neon's, or any other piston engine car. They don't hydro lock! If by some miracle water can follow up threw your kinked intake, with bends worming it to your front bumper. If it does get water in the engine it will just run like crap for a second. And then once it passes the water, it is fine.


I want someone to get a vacume guage and put it on their intake with and without that assortment of bends putting your filter in your bumper, and see how much vacume it is causeing. I can't imageing that it would be worth it, seeing as how rx7guy tested his, and it only lowered his intake temp..... what 10 degree's?
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Originally posted by neptuneRX
I can't drive in the rain mainly because my windsheild fogs up like a female dog, and dunno how to fix that.
This is one of the main reasons why I will not remove A/C from my car.

I totally understand about other drivers. Around here driving skill seems to drop exponentially to the amount of rain falling. Luckily at my age full insurance is affordable.
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ya i have my heat logicon removed from my car since it is stored for winter. (working on a dash with gauges aftermarket deck and heat logicon) and have takin my car around the blocks a few times

damn i hate the fogged up windows
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i was driving home yesterday and it started to snow. the windows fogged up like a mother i could hardly see at all, it was night time too. im surprised i made it home.


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