Cold Air Box...Worth It?
#26
NZConvertible, So do you think if I drive moderately I should be ok for a week or two until I can make a cold air box? Or should I really put the stock box back on right away? I live in Washington so the outside air isn't really that hot at all.
#27
people run hot air cone intakes all the time... you just really arent getting the most out of the mod, and if your engine is running near detonation it could be a bad thing... but if your engine is running still around stock fuel ratios (which i belive are rather conservative to keep the engines from grenading themselves), you should be ok for a while... but i would fix it sooner than later... cuz more power is better
#28
you can run a cone intake for as long as you want. A cold air box would be better for power but it is not needed. I am trying to replicate the CAI from checpoint and sell it for less
#29
and if your engine is running near detonation it could be a bad thing... but if your engine is running still around stock fuel ratios
#30
Detonation is the ignition of the air/fuel mix before the spark plug fires. It's caused by the mixture reaching it's auto-ignition temperature and exploding very violently. It usually results in cracked apex seals and an expensive engine rebuilt. Obviously it should be avoided at all costs...
Stock engines can suffer detonatation if you get everything hot enough. I'm not talking about coolant temps, I mean the heat soak caused by hard driving and/or driving in very hot ambient conditions. The hotter the air is when it enters the engine, the closer the air/fuel mix will be to the point of detonation. The lower its temp is, the bigger the safety margin. Mazda fitted the big plastic snorkel for a reason.
Unless you're really giving your car a hard time you'll probably be OK with an exposed pod filter in the engine bay. But all that heat is negating a lot of the gains from installing the pod, so it really isn't worth putting one on if you're just going to leave it exposed. Anyone running a highly modified engine (particularly a boosted turbo) is asking for trouble by not keeping intake temps down.
Stock engines can suffer detonatation if you get everything hot enough. I'm not talking about coolant temps, I mean the heat soak caused by hard driving and/or driving in very hot ambient conditions. The hotter the air is when it enters the engine, the closer the air/fuel mix will be to the point of detonation. The lower its temp is, the bigger the safety margin. Mazda fitted the big plastic snorkel for a reason.
Unless you're really giving your car a hard time you'll probably be OK with an exposed pod filter in the engine bay. But all that heat is negating a lot of the gains from installing the pod, so it really isn't worth putting one on if you're just going to leave it exposed. Anyone running a highly modified engine (particularly a boosted turbo) is asking for trouble by not keeping intake temps down.
#31
Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
you can run a cone intake for as long as you want. A cold air box would be better for power but it is not needed.
you can run a cone intake for as long as you want. A cold air box would be better for power but it is not needed.
#34
I'll add my 2 cents worth as well. I put in the Bonex intake without any box. I can definetetly fell the difference when I run hard with the hood all the way down vs unlatched but still hooked(1 in gap).
At the drag strip I tried this theory out, and I went about a 1/2 second faster with the hood slightly up on a hot day in St. Louis.
The best would be a cold air intake coming directly in from the outside air, either in front or underneath. The "RAM" effect does work.
Ideas on the best way to get the outside air in on the 2nd gens?
At the drag strip I tried this theory out, and I went about a 1/2 second faster with the hood slightly up on a hot day in St. Louis.
The best would be a cold air intake coming directly in from the outside air, either in front or underneath. The "RAM" effect does work.
Ideas on the best way to get the outside air in on the 2nd gens?
#37
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#38
Originally posted by gotdatfiyah
www.corksport.com.....true ram air effect
www.corksport.com.....true ram air effect
The reality is that a cold air system has to do 2 things, 1)get cold air in, and 2) keep hot air out. You can achieve this by either putting the filter in a place where hot air isn't a problem, and cod air is abundant (like 1987rx7guy is doing) or you can build a box to keep hot air out, and duct the cold air into it - as I did. They both have their positives and negaitives, but they both achieve the same result.
Personally, I love the setup. By putting the PVC ducting in the airflow at the front of the car I get a shitload of air into my box, and the power gains and improved throttle response is noticeable. In all, IF YOU DO IT PROPERLY a cold air system really is worth it.
#39
Originally posted by NZConvertible
You should really keep that dubious bit of advice to yourself. Your mildly-tuned NA might be OK, but other cars might not.
You should really keep that dubious bit of advice to yourself. Your mildly-tuned NA might be OK, but other cars might not.
#40
1987RX7guy can't wait to see the finish product.
www.corksport.com.....true ram air effect
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