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Old 12-25-07, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
7/5 or 400/275 refers to spring rates front/rear in either kg/mm or in lb/in. If it's a small number like 7/5 then that's 7 kg/mm front, 5 kg/mm rear, if it's a big number like 400/275 then it's 400 lb/in front and 275 lb/in rear.
Ah ok, I sort thought that what it was. But thanks. :]
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What would be a good coilover for daily driving only? I've had JIC Magic Flt-a2's on my protege and I loved them, although most passengers thought they were too stiff.

I don't plan on tracking the car, I would just like the adjustability, and superb handling ability when going on a spirited drive. I plan on upgrading all the suspension, but I'd really like a good set of coilovers that would be comfortable enough on the streets for myself and another passenger.
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Originally Posted by red_s5_fc3s
What would be a good coilover for daily driving only? I've had JIC Magic Flt-a2's on my protege and I loved them, although most passengers thought they were too stiff.

I don't plan on tracking the car, I would just like the adjustability, and superb handling ability when going on a spirited drive. I plan on upgrading all the suspension, but I'd really like a good set of coilovers that would be comfortable enough on the streets for myself and another passenger.
That's probably when I'd just use a gas strut and some coilover spring packages. No need to do full blown coilover unless you're trying to do something more than just a daily drive.
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someone is talking to KW about some coilovers for FC3S
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I used to run Ground Control coilovers with Tokico struts on my Protege 5. They were much more streetable, but there was a huge handling difference compared to the JIC's.

I guess it's all give and take.
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I agree. If you're just streeting the car I would stick with a spring/really good strut/shock combo and not go all the way to coilovers. I was happy with my Eibach/Tockico setup on the street most of the time. However, it really showed it's weakness on the track.
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The nice thing about coilovers is that you can leave it at stock ride height... considering how low it is stock (especially if you have a lip), anything lower than that is just asking for trouble.
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Thats exactly why I liked coilovers. Not only do you get the added benefit of handling, but you also gain adjustability for different wheel/tire combos, and road conditions. Unfortunately the linear springs are a little too stiff for street use.
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Originally Posted by drftwerks
someone is talking to KW about some coilovers for FC3S
I've been driving a Z33 with KW on the street, and didn't like it alot. I belive KW makes 3 versions of quality, and this would be the cheapest or sencond cheapest, so maybe the top of the line is good. I live near the German border, and people say that the "cheap" KW coilovers don't like the Autobahn at high speeds.

People saying coil-overs aren't for DD: people around me all run coilovers for their DD, and seems to be the normal thing to do. (well maybe not all, but many). Ofc I dunno about the roads in the US, but maybe US people have another view on comfort standards, we all know USDM cars handle poorly often to create the comfort.

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i've been running 12/11 coilovers for a year now.for people that say that they are too hard then try to avoin the bumps and not hit them dead on.you learn to get a mental map of the streets you usally go on and be able to avoid them.took a while to get the settings just right w/o the rear skipping/hopping but once it was all set,it was all good.
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I bought a set of mazdatrix adjustable endlinks from a buddy who was running 12/10 - both rear and links are BENT! Apparently 10 is a wee too stiff.
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Originally Posted by glh-fc
i've been running 12/11 coilovers for a year now.for people that say that they are too hard then try to avoin the bumps and not hit them dead on.you learn to get a mental map of the streets you usally go on and be able to avoid them.took a while to get the settings just right w/o the rear skipping/hopping but once it was all set,it was all good.
You live in Richmond, Vancouver, where the roads are ridiculously smooth and where I have no problem flying through Granville at 160+ and not worry about a 1m high bump stretching across the whole road due to poor road maintenance and frequent salting throwing me off. Oh wait......you guys don't have snow in Van.....do you? I guess rain can sorta mess the roads up?

Try driving 12/11 in Montreal/Toronto and tell me if your *** doesn't feel it afterwards. Actually, in Toronto, you do see quite the few civics driving with stiff suspensions......they're usually without female companionship in the car, probably because the girls are at home resting from the pain.
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it still snows here in vancouver.but not as bad as say compared to the places out east.we get maybe a few days of snow for the winter season.

i grew up and learned to drive in the philippines.if you want to know what pot holes are visit sometime.even then i still had 12/11 springs since those were the only ones i had.you learn to avoid bumps/potholes if you're gonna blow out your tire/bend your rim if you hit them even w/ stock suspension.and i've bent a steel rim because of a pot hole that i hit doing 60 km/h w/ 60 series sidewall truck tire.it was that bad of a pot hole.
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yea,i know.it makes drives in the rain interesting since you can't see them.it's one of those things that wakes you up and ponder what you broke this time.also snapped a torsion bar spring on my old truck comming off a exit ramp.

fun fun fun
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glh-fc, you just reminded me of when I was driving my uncle's Jeepney around. It's funny because when people start complaining about how ghetto some parts are here in Southern California, I wonder how they'd do out there.

Anyways, back on topic. I'd really like to use coilovers for my DD. My wheels won't fit without them, and I really like the adjustability. I can deal with the spring rates. So, my question is; what would be a good set of DD coilovers. I'm talking durability and endurance wise. Something that would last a long time and that can be rebuilt here in North America.
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Originally Posted by red_s5_fc3s
glh-fc, you just reminded me of when I was driving my uncle's Jeepney around. It's funny because when people start complaining about how ghetto some parts are here in Southern California, I wonder how they'd do out there.

Anyways, back on topic. I'd really like to use coilovers for my DD. My wheels won't fit without them, and I really like the adjustability. I can deal with the spring rates. So, my question is; what would be a good set of DD coilovers. I'm talking durability and endurance wise. Something that would last a long time and that can be rebuilt here in North America.
Didn't this just get beat to death in the last four pages? It depends on how much you're willing to spend. Give us a budget.
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Originally Posted by Tofuman FC3S
I've been driving a Z33 with KW on the street, and didn't like it alot. I belive KW makes 3 versions of quality, and this would be the cheapest or sencond cheapest, so maybe the top of the line is good. I live near the German border, and people say that the "cheap" KW coilovers don't like the Autobahn at high speeds.

People saying coil-overs aren't for DD: people around me all run coilovers for their DD, and seems to be the normal thing to do. (well maybe not all, but many). Ofc I dunno about the roads in the US, but maybe US people have another view on comfort standards, we all know USDM cars handle poorly often to create the comfort.

Riz.
i was talking about the V3
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GC/Koni and Tein's would be my recommendation, Tein would be more of the tuner suspension, it comes with everything you need.
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Any input on KTS's? I've been looking into them.
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Originally Posted by lax-rotor
Didn't this just get beat to death in the last four pages? It depends on how much you're willing to spend. Give us a budget.
Nothing over $1600
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Originally Posted by red_s5_fc3s
Nothing over $1600
Teins (Flex are what I have coming in...)
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I've been leaning towards those for a while now. Thanks lax-rotor!
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I've got Tein Flex's with 7/5 springs and I think it's a very good setup for street and track driving. It's soft enough to be comfortable on the street and not need to worry about potholes much at all, and it's stiff enough for track use. They've got good valving, are more durable than most coilovers and can be rebuilt and re-valved in the US.

I'd definetely reccomend it for a dual duty street/track setup.


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