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Old 11-21-12 | 09:58 PM
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I pulled the seal out of mine after 177k miles, still in tact. I even re-used the seal, then removed the transmission 12k miles later (TII swap) and it was still there, still in on piece, still accomplishing its function. If Mazda put it there, it's there for a reason. Don't be one of those guys that just goes removing things. What you'll end up with is a shittier car in the end.
Old 11-21-12 | 11:32 PM
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So went ahead and bought the bearing and the seal and was just curious how to put it on. Would i need to push the pilot bearing alittle deeper into the shaft so the seal fits? Or do i have the bearing somewhat flush with the indent of the shaft and have the seal on the tranny shaft?
Old 11-22-12 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AGreen
I pulled the seal out of mine after 177k miles, still in tact. I even re-used the seal, then removed the transmission 12k miles later (TII swap) and it was still there, still in on piece, still accomplishing its function. If Mazda put it there, it's there for a reason. Don't be one of those guys that just goes removing things. What you'll end up with is a shittier car in the end.
I dont know, many people haven't had the same experience as you. But hearing enough times that it falls apart makes me think why bother, could fall apart and affect the life of the actual pilot bearing itself.


And i believe the seal goes slightly into the eshaft.
Old 11-22-12 | 12:32 AM
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So when i was done rolling the quarter panels, i tried pushing my car out of my garage because i didn't want my garage to smell like gas but something was stopping it from rolling so i jacked up the rear end up and spun one wheel and the other wheel was going in the opposite direction which was weird because i just put in a s4 na lsd in it. So i turn on the car and try to get both of the wheels spinning and as the clutch started grabbing the rpm started to drop like something was holding it from spinning and than it eventually died. Turned it on again and revved even higher and once the clutch gripped something sounded like something snapped, but both of the wheels began to spin the same direction. As i drove off i noticed i couldn't pull out of 1st gear even when the clutch was fully pressed. I'm really not sure whats going on and was wondering if i could have some guidance of what it could be. When the car is off i can shift to some gears smooth but when i turn it off i cant switch to any. I already bled the master cylinder

Sorry if its too much reading. Thanks in advance!
sounds like you have an issue with your pressure plate. it will keep your clutch engaged making it difficult for you to change gears while it's running. especially on jack stands. but when the cars off you wont have any problems shifting gears. As for your s4 na lsd it's a viscous type so it has to slip a little bit before it will lock. it shouldn't be locked just by spinning the tire with your hand.
Old 11-22-12 | 12:36 AM
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posted before i read the earlier posts haha.

at least your rx7 took pity on you and took the pilot bearing out with the input shaft haha.
Old 11-22-12 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by overpaid4myfc
posted before i read the earlier posts haha.

at least your rx7 took pity on you and took the pilot bearing out with the input shaft haha.
Hahaha i know right?

Well i realized that i shimmed my lsd wrong and it probably has shredded cans inside which caused something to clunk. Im pulling it out tomorrow to see if its still useable. Thanks alot everyone for the quick respond. Kinda trippy how these both happened coincidentally
Old 11-22-12 | 07:23 AM
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Don't forget to grease the new pilot bearing.
Old 11-26-12 | 08:41 PM
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Probably just needs bled
Old 11-26-12 | 09:50 PM
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^wtf?
Old 11-27-12 | 02:19 PM
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LOL if you were actually reading this thread you'd see i stated i reverse bled it.

Anyways i remember when the tranny was in and the car was off that some gears would grind and some wouldnt? Is this another problem? My cousin with an integra said his did that all the time when his was off.
Old 11-27-12 | 09:56 PM
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You sort of need relative motion for the gears to mesh. Sometimes the "dog teeth" of the synchros meet up tip to tip, which makes it difficult to engage. The brass synchros are bevel cut so it shouldn't happen, but over time they wear down a little. Without the car in motion, the transmission won't really be spinning, so it makes meshing hard. That's why sometimes when you're stopped and you go to put it in reverse you may have to take your foot off the clutch a bit before it actually engages. Reverse is a non-synchronized gear in most manual transmissions. My Audi, for whatever reason, had a synchronized reverse gear, but not the Rx7. The "grinding" noise is normal. Never listen to a Honda owner... no matter how much you think they think they know. It's just a rule I have.

Any updates on this project?
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