Bigretardhead

I finally changed teh drivers side wiring harness after the TII swap a while ago. now there's no more problems with starting and shut down, and I should be able to put my idiot lights back in.

the only problem is there's a bunch of other stiff that's not working,and I'm not exactly sure where to start looking. the following is NOT working at the moment:

-stock gauges(but the lights work)
-turn signals
-brake lights
-dome light
-door open sensors(well, I know those aren't plugged in, but I can't find a plug for them)
-don't have to push in clutch to start car
-horn is ALWAYS on
umm... and some other little stuff that doesn't really matter

well, to start, I thought maybe I'd check some fuses, but I really don't know which fuse(s) goes to all that stuff, and I changed the fuse panel so I don't even know which fuses I'm supposed to have

it would be great if you guys could help me fix this problem so I can drive my car again.

thakns

Icemark

what harnesses did you swap, and what car did you start with?

Bigretardhead

oh, jeese. I'm an idiot. well, I'm feelin' kinda weird today. I didn't even read what I was writing. sorry.

okay. well, started with an 87' base, and converted it to an 87' TII.

and I swapped harness that goes from the headlights, down the drivers side of the car, and finally makes its way to the ECU. YES, it was a major pain in the ***.

but anyway, now that its done, the car starts and shuts off perfectly, but it has the above mentioned problems.

there are wuite a few plugs that are not connected, but they don't have anywhere to go

maybe I'll try and take some pictures of it tomorrow.

what I'm most concerned about is the stock gauges not working. well, the speedo works because its mechanical, but nothing else works, however, the lights do. and the brake lights and turn signals.
oh, and I've tried 2 different gauge clusters.

Bigretardhead

bump. I still can't figure out this son of bitch.

I really want to be able to drive my car, but with no brake lights or turn signal it makes it very illegal. and with no gauges, you never no what's going on.

if you don't understand, please ask questions to be able to better understand my car's problem. I'm very confused.

Icemark

You did check fuses today right???

And the CPU is plugged in, in the drivers kick panel right??? Since that controls Turn/hazards, Brake lights, Horn, Door key reminders.

88IntegraLS

A bunch of my car's stuff (brake lights for ex.) didn't work when I drove it without the Logicon in. You said that your idiot lights are not plugged in? Maybe that would have the same effect, you know, one circuit board not plugged causing all the other electrical items to forget what they are supposed to be doing.

Bigretardhead

woah, my internet broke down. damn

well, I don't have the logicon in. or the heater, or the A/C box thing under there. you think this could be my problem?

(hopefully my internet won't break after I post this time)

88IntegraLS

Yes, if your logicon and a bunch of other circuit board based components are unplugged you may get the same effects that I got when I drove my car (once very briefly on one rotor, lol) with the logicon out. So plug them back in and report back to us.

Bigretardhead

well, I plugged everything back in, and everything still does not work. I'm seriously thinking about rewiring the stuff thats not working... or at least the lights, and fuel gauge, and just replacing the stock gauges with aftermarket ones (some of which has already been done).

does anyone have any suggestions on what the problem could be? I'm really angry, and I don't even want to work on it anymore.

any kind of input would be greatly appreciated.

rotary>piston

your car and electricity just don't agree, do they?

marcus219

You swapped the chassis harness/drivers side harness for a TII one? Why did you decide to do this, I think I remember reading that some of the plugs are different, etc. I hope I'll be able to use my n/a one out of my '86 GXL...I'm doing a TII swap right now. I'm going to be running an EMS so that might help me out. The only connector on my harness that I've read is different, is the alternator connector off that harness, but can't I just use my n/a alternator?

-Marc

Bigretardhead

uh............ no comment

shouldn't you be on some SW20 forum now

yeah, well I didn't really want to, but I was having some other crappy electrical problems, and i don't know, I had some reasons to do this swap, but I'm almost tempted to swap the other harness back. I think it was something with the knock sensor or something. . damn this son of bitch 17 year old wiring (my car just turned 17 years old this month )

well, It doesn't matter which alternator you use, they both have a place for a plug in the back. the problem is that on N/A cars, the plug is on the engine harness, and on turbo cars the plug is on the chassis harness. the only reason it really matters is that all your idiot lights wil be on all the time. oh, also if you use the stock top mount IC the bracket thing on the alt won't fit, it will hit the IC.

Bigretardhead

time for a bump

Bigretardhead

bump

Bigretardhead

bump

88IntegraLS

You might try swapping back to the old harness temporarily to prove that your logicon, idiot light cluster, ecu, and other circuits are still intact. You would need to remove the dash but you could rig it up on the outside of the car as a one-time test. This way you can eliminate the possibility of something having gotten fried in the course of putting in an unknown harness. If everything returns to the way it was before the swap then you would know that the new harness has a problem.

lsnapcasel

Hey, email me with your phone number and maybe I can meet up with you some time to help out. I'm in Ft. Collins and come to Denver quite often. I did the N/A -> TII swap in my 87 too, so maybe we can figure this out.

nick_romary@hotmail.com