I suppose you know 100% of the N/A population? Thats kind of a biased view seeing as how I've seen a N/A GSL-SE run high 12's and it being that .01% that is fast I feel pretty lucky.

 

ok, the z32 has 600 pounds more weight but they also have 62 More Hp then stock s5's. any n/a Z can beat most n/a FC's mine got killed, i'm sure yours will too :/

 

I know a guy who tore up 14 second cars all the time in a auto non turbo 300zx. I'm sure it was good for s solid mid to high 14s run in the 1/4. And why wouldn't street racing and drag racing be the same? Unless you mean from a roll and not from a stop, around here we street race from a dead stop, which is great for me my launch kills

 

Not gonna happen...while NA Z32's aren't fast by any means, they are definitely faster than an NA FC. I raced my friend in my vert back when I had my Pineapple street ported N/A engine and he spanked me. Granted, this was in a "heavy" vert, but the extra 300 lbs. wouldn't have made a difference. Not even close. I can pull on him now that I did a TII swap though

My friend dyno'ed ~205 hp to the rear wheels on his N/A Z32 with a catback. The typical S5 N/A makes about 140-150 rwhp. And they kill us in torque by like 80 lb-ft. The 500 lbs weight savings probably isn't gonna make up that difference (assuming this race is in a straight line).

Good luck though.

 

So that doesn't make any sense to me. My friends TII pushes 177rwhp and he spanks non turbo Z's. So would a N/A with equivilant rwhp be able to hang?

 

How about i just pretend to be you in a few weeks. My car is red, i'll make em pay.

 

Nissan 300zx non-turbo's are slower than ****. I had a 1990 acura integra b18a, it was all show, rims,body kit, etc..... It had high compression head, exhaust, etc. I would be gone right after we got off the line, that integra would chirp 3rd everytime you wanted to. But, it was fwd so all it was good for was a straight line.

 

I thought your car wasn't running chad? Oh well if I get beat then we can jump him because thats always a good way of being a poor sport. I've already got a race setup. Its a 2+2 so maybe I'll have a chance. But thats good thinkin chad. I'll cut out a picture of my face and we'll tape it to your window.

 

A good friend of mine has a 1990 300zx TT, HKS intercoolers, 6 puck clutch, alum. flywheel, greddy boost controller, greddy e-manage, modified intakes, aftermarket reprogrmmed ecu. JWC (?), stillen intercooler piping, and a few other things to boot. The car makes about 425hp at the crank when it was dyno'd. This was before the E-manage. The car is running 18's in the rear, and 17's up front (wheels). and is a 5 speed. The best time it has run is a 14.1 thus far, but should be capable of better times with slicks, and when he learns to drive it better, and also larger injectors, and the e-manage, etc. So, even a car that should run a good time, can be slower than normal due to driver error, or lack of experience. I would say that you should have a decent chance once you put the TII trans in there, and I would also reccomend losing your 3.90 rear end for a 4.10, or better yet...a 4.30, then just do some weight reduction like losing your spare tire and jack, sound insulation, passenger seat, bumper reinforcements, and whatever else you can get off the car while still making it look stockish. Do all of that, and learn to drive the car well, and you should do pretty good against the N/A Z. Thats just my 2 cents.....

 

Oh its still motorless but it should be moving again at the very most 2 weeks. You can tell them my bov is a fake ricer speaker thing. Hell, maybe they'd beat me too. Oh well of course i'm kidding about pretending to be you but good luck anyways. I have a lot of breaking in do to then quite bit of tuning as well to do before i'm racing anybody. Oh yea and i'm Derek.

 

i take them out with ease with a few bolt ons, I have raced 3 2 of them stock and one with ecu, intake and exhaust I took him by 2 cars. my n/a runs high 14's on a stock port

 

mazdaspeed7 lost to a Z32TT by a car and a half.(he was also dealing w/ timing probs) i believe that NA's have the potential of being very quick. you can beat the Z. my freind has a 91 Z32 and he gives me rides home sometimes. they have alot more torque than fc's but they weigh a lot. their power is made in the mid range - 4K - 5.5K. keep your rev's high. also check this out. click here good luck

 

Oh yeah forgot you were derek. Chad's the guy with dave's old TII right?

 

Well I have a S5 thats an auto right now. The motor is superbly healthy due to **** retentive previous owners who bought this car brand new in california. I've installed teh intake and I'm replacing the cats with a race pipe. Putting in a light flywheel and a TII manual transmission. The engine is going to be balanced for the flywheel and doing a complete tune up with new 8mm wires and plugs. Also using royal purple motor and gear oil. The engine as is gets this car moving even with the auto but not fast enough. I'm also dropping the steel hood for a TII hood to shed some wieght. I'm running it on the 1/4 as is on the 4th. Won't speculate but my mechanic said it won't be great. But after all that work I'll pick up 2 seconds.

 

auto s5 with a cone filter....low 16s if youre lucky

 

Think again. I'm at 4700ft above sea level so more like mid 17's if I'm lucky. My '81 ran 17.1 at best and I'm not to positive if my S5 auto is faster. TII's run high 15's here in Utah.

 

does anyone actually have driven both?

does anyone actually own both?

I do.

The 300zna is built like a fort, so yes, it's heavy. It's also true that it's slightly slower than the T2. To suggest that it's slower than the FCNA is plain ridiculous.

Just enjoy your car and admire other's rides...

My 2 cents.

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...threadid=30248

 

I've driven both but the Z's I drove were very bad examples. They were beat to **** and the only fast one was my friends who didn't let me drive.

 

they are quite fast, but their engines blow up easily.

 

I raced a lightly modded Z32 TT with my modded TII. My mods are Banzai TID, HKS SSQV, Racingbeat Turboback Exhaust, Large Streetport, rewired walbro 255lph. Thats about it, If we did it from a roll he would get me by about a car and a half, if we raced from the hole he would only get a fender on me or so. They are pretty much monsters when they are TT which Is why I felt proud of keeping up with it. Ive been in it with him and weve whooped on cobras, camaros, dsms, basically 98% of the street cars out there.

 

just to add, the 1990 300zx with all its mods. has still yet to beat my other friend with a 10th AE with just a full 3" exhaust and an intake. The 10th AE has a mazda reman. and was running a AFC. The best time it ran was a 13.7, the Z a 14.1 I still believe that a lot of it lays in the driver, not the car.

 

This thread is pretty stupid in my opinion. Most of the people are pulling facts and figures out of god knows where and all over a FREAKING DATSUN!!! WHO CARES?????? It is all a matter of how much money you have over him. With an auto N/A you won't beat him off the line by any stretch of the imagination and will probably not be able to do much of anything. With the TII Trans, you will definatley have an advantage over the auto, but still run into the problem with rotaries not having bottom end torque, so you will probably have to launch at about 5k and slip the clutch until you get to speed. Also (I hate to say this), I think that the datsun will probably win either way unless you port the engine with a decent 1/2 bridge or j-port, otherwise your just pushing, at best 160 horses out, as long as it is an s5 N/A (crack open your RX-7 perf. handbook and look it up in the engine section, pg. 76-77).

sorry to rant, but I am a little touchy on the subject of datsun's

 

 

I loveee street drag racing

 

I actually didn't know that they have engine reliability problems. My statement was kind of broad, but what I meant is that an N/A 300Z only has so much modding capability, and its not that much. A TII on the other hand has the potential for much more power, and weighs less. Stock for stock, its about even. Now an N/A FC would probably get its *** kicked by a modded N/A 300Z, but aren't we talking about a TII here?

-Joe