i thought you said it has to be a 6port..but you said your using TII intermediate and rotor housings?

 

Well the auxillary ports are on the end housings. So using a T2 intermediate housing and rotor housings, but kepping N/A end housings it will still be a 6 port engine. I dont see much difference in using the rotor housings, but a S5 T2 int. housing has larger ports than N/A housings.

 

The turbo rotor housings don't have the exhaust diffuser that the N/As do. Therefore, the exhaust can be ported with better success.

Brandon - long time no see! I need to make it to Tally sometime in the next month or two. I've already made the trip about four times this year, but didn't bother to tell anyone.

Is BR7Racing something you and Ray are working on? Is he still at NRG?

 

Hey Jerry! We've been slammed busy working on getting BR7 Racing started! Ray left NRG a while back.

Guys - I think the idea of a bridged auxiliary-only port is incredibly innovative, and the idea here is to encourage innovation, so we're taking it under consideration. Of course, it's near-impossible to police this thing, so we're depending on you all to be honest about it, but I think that's a great idea. Bport top end, with working 6PI. Nifty!

Brandon
BR7 Racing

 

I wish I had a N/A to try this with. This is a great and wonderful little incentive for the N/A guys to prove to the world that their cars are not "slow."

 

So will the microtech still be available at the retail prices posted on the mentioned website even after the groupbuy?

 

Yep, and the offer will still stand... BUT you won't have the opportunity to save as much as $75 off retail for the ECU alone.

Brandon
BR7 Racing

 

hey now, what about us 13b 6port 1st gen guys? Can we get in on this?


(thinking of joining the GB anyway..)

 

Judge Ito(not on this site anymore) has already done that with some success. He has tried a few different types of porting and will soon have some results to post. He modifies the pinapple sleeve and keeps the auxilary port functioning. One he did felt like a 250HP TII but the owner of the car wrecked it before any dyno runs. I believe it raced a mildly modified TII and won.

 

You guys better start lookin for tracks that are slightly down hill

 

This is cool stuff, bravo to microtech

 

This challenge is going to be super interesting. It almost makes me want to go back to N/A and do it. Hope some one can do it.

 

damn i wanted to do this before, because my friend has a 12 sec all motor civic, and all is pretty damn fun. i was thinking about a 1st gen body though.

 

If you really want to get innovative, figure out how to machine the water seal grooves into a 12A intermediate housing so it can be used on the later '86+ engines. Really big ports can be used here. The other way to do it is to use this housing with a GSL-SE 6 port engine. Both would require new motor mounts. Do the auxillary, actuated bridgeport and then throw in some new constant cross section exhaust sleeves like the machined ones that I have on my cars. Viola! Please understand that the true dual exhaust will hurt your performance if you have a bridgeport. Take this a step higher. Use the Guru Racing eccentric shaft with center bearing so you can shift at 9500 rpm where the most power will be on a small bridgeport. Use a carbon fiber driveshaft, lightened rotors, etc. There are many stipulations to this challenge but still twice as many ways to get creative. Anyone consider aerodynamics for wind resistance down the track? Nowhere did it say stock intake manifolds or unmodified manifolds which is confirmed with their use of a weber style system. Time to design an intake around your usable rpm range. I see someone completing this challenge very soon. Why shoot for 200 rwhp when you can get higher goals and faster times?! 13's here someone comes! Its more a matter of peoples financial situations and time than it is not knowing how to. Hope this gave some new ideas. Good luck! Add the stipulation that it has to meet emissions requirements and see how much harder it will get!

 

meet emmissions? California people? (FAILED!)

 

Nah. That'd be just too hard. Emissions suck

Brandon
BR7 Racing

 

I think I could do it with a standalone, but dont really want to buy one anymore. Best time I ever ran was a 14.6 with crappy tires, stock Y-pipe, no LSD, or engine management. Ive since added 225/50/15 Yokohamas, aftermarket Y-pipe, magnecor plug wires, and LSD. With alittle weight redux (AL hood, remove AC, relocate battery, ect) and a standalone ECU, 13s shouldnt be too hard.


I bet Jimmy could do it right now though...

 

My car will run 13's, but I'm using E6K so I guess it doesnt matter. Should be running in a few weeks, we'll see.

 

so this is how i read it:
-the winner will be the first car into the 13's.
-you have a shop building a car that will also compete in this challenge.
-the rules for how the competition is run will be set by what you are doing to your car.
-therefore, winning this competition for a forum member (or anyone else) will require building a car that is faster than a tuner shops car without exceeding their modifications.

so you guys get yours for "free" while getting more people to buy your microtech thus turning a profit and at the same time buying yourself a tuning computer which you were buying anyway? realistically, the only way i see someone else winning this is if they have a car that already fits the list of mods who replaces their standalone with yours...unless of course you guys take like 6 months to a year like most guys modding their cars at home would.

 

Brandon. Based on our previous discussion, It was Implied that a MT EMS Is In the making for the NA. Has this already been made or the existing LT8 Is what Is going to be market for us? I'm abit blurry here. Details please?

 

If I pull an 8 second eigth mile do I win? The only place that will pass me for tech is an 1/8th track. Something about a crack which runs the entire width of the windshield makes tech guys unhappy.

In 12 days I have no place to live. All my money has to go for 1st and last mo's rent and deposit.

BDotty311, Thanks for the vote of confidence.

 

The LT8 is a standalone ecu. It'll work with a turbo II, an N/A, or my Volvo, if you want it to.

Secondly, I think what he meant is that the competition is open for us all, but that BR7 will be building a car to prove it anyway.

And for that matter, I think I'll be in the twelves on a stock S4 turbo. (Unless porting the wastegate counts, in which case, screw it. Heh.)

 

silverrotor: An N/A-specific version will be sent to those who specify that when placing their orders (opens tomorrow). It'll keep the same MAP sensor, but all the load bands will be down at/below atmo. That way, if you ever go turbo, it'll be a simple reconfiguration, instead of a hardware change. But it will be available.

bingoboy: You're too cynical! I'm a part-owner of BR7 Racing. We want to build a 13-second N/A car because we think it'd be fun. I didn't say anything about beating us to it! Even if we get there first, we're still going to honor the contest in order to encourage innovation and keep the word out about the Microtech. $150FC hit the nail on the head with his comments. We're buildling a car just to do it; the contest is for everyone else.

Hope that clears things up The FC is dear to my heart, and I thought this would be a really cool way to keep the field fresh and interesting, as well as getting people excited about the Microtech.

So, go get 'em, guys!

Brandon
BR7 Racing

 

What if we hit 13's without the microtech? My car will be able to do that soon.

 

Then you will be rewarded with a sub 14sec timeslip! :-)

We aren't in the business of giving products away for free! We want to inspire enthusiasts, customers or not, to explore all avenues of development for thier cars!

We've discussed the proposed Aux bridge port mod and have deemed that mod is certainly within the spirit of the rules... remember, we're willing to bend but not break on this :-) no Peripheral ports of ANY KIND!!

remember, we know how everyone's ecu is configured so those that use an ecu configured with load points greatly exceeding atmospheric manifold pressure will be subject to GREAT levels of scrutiny :-)

at any rate... have a great time and good luck to everyone!

Ray
BR7 Racing