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Old 04-09-04 | 01:31 AM
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blah, where to find an Autometer? (a/f ratio guage)

Im assuming autometer = air/fuel ratio guage. I searched and got a shitload of results of people wanting to know how to install them and what not, but i was wondering where i can get a guage piller and air/fuel ratio guage (autometer?) for an S5 (if it matters what series it is)
I found this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW on ebay, but first of all, ebay is full of all sorts of bullshit car products, and this makes me think its one of them because its listed for 86-89 instead of 86-91 or something... well thanks if anybody has any help!
Old 04-09-04 | 01:37 AM
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i think the best price i found on them was from http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/...A%20RX7%201989
Old 04-09-04 | 01:45 AM
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Thanks you for the reply.
But how about the actual guage? i dont find it on that site
Old 04-09-04 | 01:45 AM
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I got mine from Summit Racing. Probably only the largest online racing store...
Old 04-09-04 | 02:39 AM
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Re: blah, where to find an Autometer? (a/f ratio guage)

Originally posted by DEZERTE
Im assuming autometer = air/fuel ratio guage.
Nope. Autometer is a company that make many, many different gauges, including A/F gauges. Plenty of other companies make A/F gauges too.
Old 04-09-04 | 02:44 AM
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don't even both with the autometer crap save up and get your self a wide band like this with dataloging !!!

http://www.rx7store.net/product.asp?0=208&1=361&3=788
thats my next mod!
Old 04-09-04 | 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by BlackRx7
don't even both with the autometer crap save up and get your self a wide band like this with dataloging !!!

http://www.rx7store.net/product.asp?0=208&1=361&3=788
thats my next mod!
damn straight! thats on my to-get list. I didnt know that existed...damn..
Old 04-09-04 | 03:15 AM
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Originally posted by BlackRx7
don't even both with the autometer crap save up and get your self a wide band like this with dataloging !!!
This man speaks the Truth! Save up and get a wide O2, its more $$ ya, but its SO much more accurate! I like the FJO unit, its around $600 - it comes with a Air Fuel Ratio Gauge, allows users to visually monitor the Air Fuel Ratio (AFR) while driving.

Link to FJO:
http://www.fjoracing.com/

Also does anyone have the FJO WideBand? And if so, how do you like it? I have my eyes set on this Wide O2
Old 04-09-04 | 07:56 AM
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A narrow-band AFR gauge like the Auto Meter model works just fine as a monitor to watch for running lean, and there is no point to paying more for a wide-band AFR gauge if this is all you need. The more expensive wideband gauges are intended more for tuning the engine rather than as a permanent monitor, although you can certainly use it as such. I know several people who have used the less-expensive narrow-band AFR gauge to tune their engine (including class-winning race engines), and it worked just fine, although a wide-band is more accurate towards in the typical "best-power" range. Just keep in mind that buying a nice AFR gauge will not turn a novice into a professional tuner, which seems to be a common misconception on the internet. Racing engines have been around long before the AFR gauge was invented.

There are many brands of AFR gauges. This web site offers a good overview, although it is a bit dated.
http://www.alltrac.net/tuning/afgauge.html

You can buy AFR gauges here, or at just about any online or local automotive performance parts store.
http://www.rx7store.net/subcat.asp?0=212
Old 04-09-04 | 07:11 PM
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A narrow-band A/F meter can be a useful monitoring tool if you kow how to correctly interpret it's output. If you really want to do tuning you should be on a wideband-equipped dyno anyway, so a wideband in the car is really just another toy to play with, not a necessity.

And those who say the AutoMeter A/F gauge is crap simply don't understand how they work. It is no better or worse than any other A/F gauge about there. They're all nothing but fancy LED voltmeters that use basically the same circuit, so whether you have a $10 DIY one like mine or a megadollar Japanese one, the result will be the same since you're still connecting to the same sensor.
Old 04-09-04 | 10:14 PM
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its all about the O2 sensor I just like the FJO gauge cause its bling bling
Old 04-09-04 | 10:16 PM
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http://egauges.com/eg_typeI.asp?Type=Air_Fuel&Cart=
Old 04-09-04 | 10:24 PM
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yep what razorback said that has some of the best prices on gauges I've seen anywhere besides ebay.
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https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=292696

here is a link of someone selling it on the forum. Good luck!
Old 04-09-04 | 10:29 PM
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i was gonna say that someone was selling those gauges as well..saved me some time
Old 04-10-04 | 11:08 AM
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I have 1 ?.... I cant use a Autometer A/F with a Wide O2 can I? From what i heard you cant because the O2 comes with / uses a converter. Otherwise id keep my current A/F and hook it up to a wide O2
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Originally posted by T210thAnniv
I have 1 ?.... I cant use a Autometer A/F with a Wide O2 can I? From what i heard you cant because the O2 comes with / uses a converter. Otherwise id keep my current A/F and hook it up to a wide O2
A narrowband AFR gauge cannot properly read a wideband O2 sensor.

Originally posted by NZConvertible
so a wideband in the car is really just another toy to play with, not a necessity.
A wideband in the car is usually used for:
1) Track/street tuning after dyno tuning is complete.
2) or as a bling factor to make people think you know how to use it, even though the large majority of the people on this forum have absolutely no need for this item, and end up wasting their money on it when what they really need is something boring like new hoses, belts, pulsation damper, or propeller shaft.
Old 04-10-04 | 12:14 PM
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I have this one.
http://66.70.17.170/speedshop/store/...p?idproduct=15
Old 04-10-04 | 05:18 PM
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link dosent work....nm
Old 04-10-04 | 05:20 PM
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I hope you dont tunn your ride with your stock O2
Since that is what your gauge is meant for
Old 04-10-04 | 05:33 PM
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pep boys has the autometer A/F guage
Old 04-10-04 | 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Evil Aviator
...as a bling factor to make people think you know how to use it, even though the large majority of the people on this forum have absolutely no need for this item...
Old 04-10-04 | 08:45 PM
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I'd rather have a digital one with a wideband O2 myself. IMHO they're better for tuning. I mean seriously what can you learn from some blinkin' lights?
Old 04-10-04 | 10:46 PM
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More than you obviously realise. The fact that you think they're just "blinking lights" sounds like you don't really undertand what you're seeing.

Of course a wideband is better for tuning, but unless you actually know how to tune an engine safely (and many here don't) then it too is just more pretty lights.
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Originally posted by akito12
I mean seriously what can you learn from some blinkin' lights?
I tuned an aircraft engine in-flight with an old style lambda gauge that consisted of only 2 lights, one for rich and one for lean. It worked just fine, and as proof of that, I am still alive.

I mean seriously what can you learn from 18 years of experience and 6 years of college?
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