tawd

Ok, everyone that has a 7 with factory alarm that works... Let me know how your alarm arms.

Hop in your car and try this.
Turn key on, turn key off
press down drivers side interior lock (without opening the door first)
Did your alarm "arm"?

Mine will NOT arm this way. My door MUST be open when pressing
the drivers side lock to get the alarm to arm. Please try this out
and let me know. Mine works as followed...

Turn key on, turn key back off
OPEN a door (either door, as long as that doors dome light switch works)
Press the drivers side interior lock down to "lock"
Alarm will now activate and beep
Lift up on exterior handle, and shut the door.
The car is now locked, and the alarm beeps again letting you know the
system is "armed".

would everyone that has a working factory alarm check to see if you can arm your alarm without the door being open when you press the drivers interior door lock down? Let me know how your works... Thanks

babyd011_

Dome lights must work???
my factory alarm works (dome lights dont) and i STILL dont know how to make it work!!
and that feat exclusive to verts where the internal trunk release can be disabled ... cant figure it out....
ok, i *THINK* anytime my car alarm worked it was associated with me using the key on the trunk lock, does your car have power door locks?? cuz i know on my TII the power locks beep when used, i didnt think this armed the car ... my vert has no power locks and it does not beep when i push the lock down (why i dont think the beep means its armed)
i read the manual a few times on how to arm the car and have only armed it by fluke and cannot find a consistant procedure

tawd

When i open the door, and press down the drivers interior lock (power locks) the alarm will beep, and the security light will come on, and then start flashing fast(alarm is now activated). When i lift the outside door handle and shut the door the alarm will beep again, and then flash slowly. Alarm is now "armed".

gxlbiscuit

um to armt he alarm i just hit the lock on the drivers side... but to arm it for the drivers side i have to lock the door and hold the handle up as i close the door at the same time. for me this arms my alarm on the passenger side.

tawd

ok, i realize that you hit the lock on the drivers side. But, sitting in your car, with both doors shut and you hit the drivers side lock, does the alarm turn on? Mine only does it when I FIRST open a door, then hit the drivers side lock...

Apathy

I dont think it is supposed to work when the doors are closed... because if so, then you might arm it while driving...

tawd

EXACTLY!! I have NEVER heard anyone (besides ICEMARK) say the alarm would arm with the doors shut. He faught me to no end about this so im trying to get everyones input on how theirs works. Thanks

Apathy

lol... naw, whenever I use mines I have to have the door open and the door open(dome light) has to come on... if the door is open, but the light not on--my alarm wont activate...

tawd

Thats good to hear... that backs up how my alarm works. I think Icemark was smokin something when he said his would arm with the doors shut...

Houstonderk

iTrader: (3)

Yes it only arms with the doors closed. Like he said. If you left the doors open does the alarm arm. NO You have to close the door. You just don't understand. And usually when a moderator closes a thread, you don't open another on eabout the person and the same situation. I'm sure this same topic has been covered atleast 2 times just like everything else, just certain people search once and call it a day instead of looking for it.

tawd

Edited for flaming again.

You best grow up and stop flaming other members

tawd

edited for attack on moderator

Houstonderk

iTrader: (3)

Yea but thats the common sense part. Unless you sleep in your car and want the alarm to go off when someone is trying to kill you. Also the only reason for having to left the handle is because for some reason the door lock pops back to unlock when the door is closed but that is not as noticeable for SOMEPEOPLE. LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN before you post.

kontakt

Don't be so argumentative. If you'll note he's saying that he can't start the arming process without opening his door, not that he has to leave his door open for the alarm to actually lock (when it beeps again a little while later). His alarm will not arm if his door is never opened. The first thing anyone who argues that people should LISTEN should do is to practice what you preach. The problem with that previous thread is people that were asking for specifics were getting general answers. The people asking for the specifics didn't know what they were talking about, and the people giving the general answers didn't know what they (the people asking the questions) were talking about either. Everyone got too heated, terminology got crossed, people acted too cocky, hostile, stubborn, and ignorant. When someone gives you advice, or someone asks you a question... sit down... read it CLOSELY, and if the asker claims that his question wasn't answered, either he didn't understand it or... it wasn't answered. In either case the person that knows the answer (and hopefully noone who thinks they know the answer) should, based on how much they care, rephrase their answer a few times, just as the question should be clarified, and if the situation isn't resolved then someone is incompetent, but noone has to cry.

Edit: also, I believe you have to lift the handle to verify that you're on the outside of the vehicle, to keep the alarm from going off at weird times while you're just in it.

Houstonderk

iTrader: (3)

And the SEARCH does work. I just typed FACTORY ALARM and pops up enough info that you could get sick of it all.

tawd

edited for attack on moderator

Houstonderk

iTrader: (3)

I will try this at lunch just for you then.

kontakt

I agree with you Houston that this thread is unnecessary... unless you have some extradimensional need to be able to lock your door, open it without unlocking it, and have your alarm be on... Personally my doors don't unlock when I shut the door locked w/ door handle down, but I just lock it with the key from outside every time (because my subaru does act that way and it's habbit). With both cars, when I lock with the key from the outside, unlocking with the key from the outside is the only way in w/o setting off the alarm (If I lock it inside, and shut it... the alarm will go off when I put my key in the driver's door), so I guess this doesn't really concern me too much.

tawd

The point is... I WAS TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT MY ALARM SYSTEM!!!! HIM GIVEING ME FALSE INFORMATION MAKES IT REALLY REALLY REALLY HARD TO TROUBLESHOOT THE ALARM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited for flaming

kontakt

No, you're pissed because you're quick to hysterics. I have ABSOLUTELY no doubt that you either caught Icemark on a bad day, a bad time, or simply managed to push him over the edge of where irritation and frustration overlay clear thought a little. The end result being that he told you information, that if you thought was true, is still completely useless, and harmless, unless I suppose if you were being attacked, and hid in your car you might want the alarm to go off when the guy goes to rip you out of it? ::shrug::

MattB

i agree with the doors being open. my alarm will not arm unless the door gets opened first.

turn the car on then off
lock passengers door
open your door
lock your down
hold handle up from outside and close your door
look at the security light, it will be on, not blinking. the alarm will sound if you reach in your window and unlock the door without the key. it may take a minute or 2 to actually be armed though (in case you run back to your car real quick)

just watch the security light. once it goes on solid for about 10 seconds, then blinks every 5 seconds, your alarm is armed.

at least as far as i understand this is how the whole system works. ill give it a try on lunch break.

-Matt

kontakt

Look buddy, he didn't answer your questions... I EXPLAINED ABOUT THAT... you didn't know how to phrase your questions so he'd understand it... you just kept asking the same questions the same way, he kept giving you the same answer the same way... you're surprised? When I read through the original thread I saw a bunch of people asking questions that were never going to get answered, and people answering questions that weren't exactly asked... and about having my nose shoved in Icemark's ***, I hardly see where you get that as I criticised both sides of the argument, and what good would it do me anyway? Would I get my rebuilt wiper switch from him for less money if I made his rear tickle? NO! Because he still has to make money for his work on the ELECTRONICS of our car. If you don't know that Icemark is a 'tronics guru then you definitely need to spend more time reading with your head out of your ***.

tawd

edited for flaming

kontakt

And if you don't know how to ask your question... i.e. "what part of the lock mechanism is responsible for making or breaking the electrical connection that the alarm system uses to tell if the door is open or closed" would have gotten you a bit farther I believe than just listing parts.

I never disagreed with anything you just said about what went wrong. Re-read what I wrote, this is my last post in this thread as it is blatantly obvious that unless someone comes into this thread, and starts kissing YOUR ***, and saying what you want to hear you're going to assume that they're arging fully against you. It isn't one side or another jackass. My point wasn't that Icemark was right, but that he was fairly harmlessly wrong (you're not going to pop your motor on his bad advice... worst case scenario he owes you a few hours of your life back), and that he is right a MUCH larger percentage of the time than MOST people on this forum.

tawd

kontakt - "My point wasn't that Icemark was right, but that he was fairly harmlessly wrong"

Wrong is wrong!! it doesnt matter if he is telling me that my motor will run fine with 1 quart of oil in it, or if he is giving me wrong information on how my alarm works. I needed help, asked a question in the best way i knew how, and reasked it being more specific and never got the correct answer from him. Luckily, i have decent troubleshooting skills and ended up figuring it all out on my own... But unfortunately for the next guy having the same problem that will search for a fix, he will find that thread and get a bunch o' wrong information on how the alarm works. If he 100% relys on what someone else says *no troubleshooting skills* then his alarm would NEVER get fixed.
If someone with a 5 post count history gave the EXACT same replies to my questions that icemark did on the previous thread you wouldnt have said he was "harmlessly wrong". You would have said "BULLSHIT, Dont just guess how it works and post it as the answer!"

Icemark is getting his *** licked because the majority of the time he is right... and thats great, that is benificial to this forum. But unless your 100% sure your right when someone is trying to ask specific questions on how something works, stay out of the post!!! dont answer what you dont know!!