ziplock

Hey guys , im here agruing with my buddy about putting nos on my car. I half decent automatic GLX 87 with aux port air pump mod (it works pretty well once in a while when the valve hasnt slipped to a shitty position) ....

the agrument is that I want to put 100 shot of nos. my buddy gives the car 2 runs with the 100 shot.

I think it will love it i think it will last, i want to drive like that at least once a day.

pp.s can you get a stall torque for my car?

cheers
zip

RB_eater

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If you never used NO2 before a 100 shot might be too strong and I wouldn't recommend using nitrous everyday but hey it's your car. You should read the thread in the archives about nitrous.

TehMonkay

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If you have enough fuel it should be fine, get a wideband to monitor the AF ratio.

VacavilleFC

make sure it's wet not dry, if it's a dry shot system yes your buddy will win the bet. the biggest problem your car has is the fact that it's automatic,

The Shaolin

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You need to do alot of reading about nitrous and n2o kits in general.


Yes, wet kit. The highest reccommended shot is going to be 75. It may hold the 100 for a few runs,but if the rotors don't have excellent compression, or if one rotor gets too much juice, say goodbye.

j0rd4n

why say nos is recommended for race cars only? i wouldn't say that. if it was for race cars only, i don't think we'd see as many bolt-on nos products on the market as we do. heck, it seems like a huge chunk of the people on the taurus forum i frequent (non-sho's) have a 50 shot of juice on their cars with almost no other work done with no issues

CyberPitz

The only reason there are so many bolt ons out there is Fast and the Furious. They essentially ruined the import scene. Personally, NO2 isn't what I'd go for if you wanted speed. Sure it's cheaper, but the problem is your engine. You can't just NO2 it, and never have any bad spots. The engine won't enjoy it fully, and you might as well just go for a turbo, imo. They are safer, if done correctly, and more fun! Then again, this is all my opinion, if you really want to NO2 it, do it softly to make sure you'll do fine for a few runs, then go for it.

classicauto

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Juice it

Depending on how your engine is now, you may last one or two shots, may last 2 or 3 hundred. You need to check compression to get an "idea" of how much life is in the engine.

Its all about heat, if you can balance your shot to keep the EGT's happy, the motor will be happy. Its not a matter of "a hundred shot will break your engine" thats retarded.

Read:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hlight=nitrous

edit:
Anyone saying "turbo it, it'll last longer" must have eaten the wrong brand of cereal this morning. A safely tuned shot of nitrous will be just that -SAFE- and go off only when you want it to or when you press the button you don't need to drive it around in its fully tuned/boosted state ALL the time. Sure, boost will only come on when you're into the pedal, but thats getting into semantics.

2slw4u

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i say bottles are for babys lol

FelixIsGod29X

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Nos in auto is just wrong.

Spectator

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Get boost, not juice.

j0rd4n

yes

SpeedOfLife

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^^^ that was my first thought. I don't see it working well, either...

sharingan 19

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If you use a big enough shot of N02 to even be worth doing, won't the auto tranny be "at risk" ? Plus, if you're talking about a "torque stall" is this going to be a track car?

If so, and you've got good compression, slap on the N02. If not, save that Nos money and just rebuild it w/ a crazy port that idles @ 2k and and revs to 10.

SpeedOfLife

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I rev to eleven!! it's one louder.

yeah, that's what I meant by 'not work well', most auto transmissions (especially ones this old) are genuinely retarded and shift whenever they're preprogrammed to... but if you insist on pulling the pin on a live grenade inside your car, post vids.

Richter12x2

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I'd definitely spend the money on power that will be there all the time, not just for a few seconds when you push the button. :P

The Shaolin

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DAMMIT PEOPLE.

NITROUS. NOT NOS.

N2O. NOT NO2.

Nos is a brand name, used as a blanket term by ricers.

Nitrous oxide, or dinitrous oxide (N2O) is used as laughing gas and is a great deal of fun for an engine.

Nitrous dioxide (NO2) is a poisonous pollutant, and not so much fun.

anewconvert

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Why is there this idea that N2O is any different than boost? If you have the supporting mods to add 100hp to a NA engine then it doesnt matter where it comes from, boost or juice.

Boost: Increasing density to add more oxygen to the engine to be combusted with more fuel

N2O: Increasing O2 content by using a gas that breaks down under heat and releases its O2 to be combusted with more fuel


In either case, if your engine can handle the extra pressures associated with increased horsepower it matters very little where the hp comes from. What needs to be considered with N2O is that you are adding the fuel with the gas, not the computer. So you have to be VERY careful that as you increase the flow of N2O that you also increase the flow of fuel. Be sure your fuel system is up to the task, and if you go over about a 50 shot you need to start pulling timing at or before peak torque. At a 100 shot you should pull at least 2* timing.


BC

TheDarkRacer

^^^ the diff is with boost, you get the cool turbo spooling sound and a kickass BOV!!! u dont get that with n2o....

classicauto

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No, you only get a sweet purge control that lets you spray over your windshield or wherever you mount the nozzle.....why would anyone possibly find that attractive....

Richter12x2

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No again, the difference is with boost, you don't have to stop and pay money every couple of minutes to refill your bottle. :P

RX7withNitrous

Oh where to begin. Check my screen name. I wouldn't do more than a 75 just to be on the safe side. I have no idea how it will hold up on an automatic though. Could have problems there.

classicauto

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cost break down?

NOS sniper wet kit w/10lb bottle and up to 125hp jetting - $389.99

It would take quite a few fills before you breached the 2K mark that a trubo swap would cost.....

sharingan 19

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...Perhaps, but you would eventually it that mark and then you would keep going, and going and going....

plus, I'm interested to know how long a 10lb bottle will last, if you get on it on a often on a daily basis (like many people do w/ turbo) ?

SpeedOfLife

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what you fail to realize is that a turbo can give you power on demand at about any time and it really doesn't run out in the way a nitrous bottle does. so let's do another more accurate cost comparison:
let's say you drive this car every day, which is what the OP wants to do, and you want to use your extra power a few times a day, which the OP also wants to do. that said, you'd probably be replacing bottles about once every week, right (I'm not exactly sure how long it'd take to drain a bottle, but probably not long). so say it costs $100 to fill it. ~52 weeks in a year, so $5200 PER YEAR just to fill the damned thing in order to use it that frequently. EVEN IF you use half as much, that puts you at $2600 per year. I'd most DEFINITELY say a turbo is a much better option than nitrous in this situation. and then of course we still have the issue of it being an automatic...