iceblue

Ok I will take my stab at this..

Pauses, as the crowd silences..........

Ohh sorry that is incorrect, please try again.

Oh sorry wrong again.

Oh very sorry but you failed 3 times in a row.

I would like to see that done in a few minutes lol. Can you even tell me what the tolerances are of the objects you welded in the car? Could you tell me in what ways you affected the geometry of the pedal assembly?

You may be the ******* but you’re also the idiot. Not only that I thought my English was bad, holy joker batman!

MARTIN

I personally think its alot easier to weld on the firewall... but what do I know... Anyways here is guy that did it on an integra.. Hes local, so I can vouch for his work. He did this in about a week.

porterhousesteak

wow you seriously dont get it. we have two different year rx7s Or fc3s if you want to get technical. one turbo and one NA. BOTH WITH IDENTICAL FIREWALLS. maybe you should peal yourself off of your computer chair jump int a set of **** stained pants go outide and spend some time looking under your hood. notice your steering shaft going through the fire wall? notice how it lines up with the shaft and take a mental picture of the shape. now look to your passenger side and notice a near mirror image of the same pattern with a few exceptions. Why do you think that is? i think it is because the firewall for the american models and the japanese models were all pressed with the same mold. the holes were just cut on opposite sides. THE GEOMETRY???? you make this too easy. the clutch we use is hydraulic, and the throttle is on a cable..........wait......is this a rx7 forum? ok just checking.

VII

Good luck to you guys, hope your project goes well.

Fourhorseracing

Blue...dude. I saw you thread. Nice car for your girlfriend ok. Now you did the same job we did. Or well you said you did it, or a shop did it, whatever. So you know what a ******* pain in the *** this is. You are networking engineer right, that is what you profile says...so you are a nerd. Go program computers and fix my IT network so I can build cars. Man it is guys like you that ******* irk me...no one just says, hey nice car, good job on it. THey have to make it seem like they did a bigger and better thing. I mean hell man i just read through your little bit about how you did it. and guess what WE DID THE SAME ******* THING! Besides your girlfriends drives it, I am sur eyou drive some kinda Honda Hybrid you ******* tree hugging bitch. Damnit I try so hard to just help some people out, see what people thing, and all you can do it go through and tell me and billy that everything we did was wrong, when you did it the same way? YOu are a hypocrit, plain and simple.

"Can you even tell me what the tolerances are of the objects you welded in the car? Could you tell me in what ways you affected the geometry of the pedal assembly?" - Iceblue

Then tell me sir, what are the tolerances? How did you affect your geometry? Whip out you ******* graphing calculator and figure it out, I am sure that you did al lyour math. Cause to me...it looks like you measures stuff and cut and welded.

Second, the welding the fire wall idea..anyone here work in a garge or body shop? .... Well if you do not let me learn you something. Ever head of I-car certification? That is a company that makes sure you know what you are doing when doing major body welding. IE things like subframe work, firewalls, major structural support. Less than 10% of all body shop guys are I-car specialized. Guess what, i am not letting Joe Blowmynuts weld my ******* firewall onto my car. To think that you can actually do that and safley drive it....that is just ignorant. So I excuse you on that.

And billy has a point. I had two firewalls next to each other. One J-spec, one American..guess what...they are the ******* same. The only difference are the mounting brakets for the HVAC stuff, they are welded on after the fact though.

iceblue

porterhousesteak

this is fun. lokk. blue opened his mouth. now all he has to do is insert foot.
p.s. smilies are so awsome.

iceblue

Are we jellus?


And so much more

Oh do you have a personal chip?

Nope it was the attitude you carried with yourself.

Not at all you did it completely different then me. If you had body shop skills and knowledge you would know just this.

A little searching may key you in.

Your hypocrisy is your own lacking knowledge

The tolerance is 3mm. With your setup you pushed the pedals 6mm out of the engineered geometry. You should take your OEM parts measurements down then compared to when you were done taken the difference subtracted that and your value if your new MAX tolerance of your internal parts.

Maybe you just don't know how to weld????

Ahhh I am sorry but they are not stamped the same but close. The steering assembly is stamped 6mm further then the JDM one.


There is nothing wrong with your methods just your comments are incorrect.

Now from someone who did it the proper way would be to cut the firewall or swap it. They each have the advantages and disadvantages. It should be done according to your available skill level and tools. I doubt you had the extra 2000$ in tools needed to remove the firewall properly.

porterhousesteak

im affended. you said nothing to me? 3mm. your joking right. you have to be. your just putting on a show here. and we are all laughing. you think this is upsetting me? i am typing with a smile. i live for this ****. ill give you credit on one thing. you are smart. problem with that is you over think things. you dont know how to improvise and that is why you wont be successful in the end and why your girlfriend will eventually take over your car. it might start with a best of NSYNC cd or it might start with the air freshner that is shaped like a little teddy bear because that is what you are to her. it will happen mark my words.

p.s. no-*****!!!

iceblue

I think we all know where your current knowledge stands now, and the shape of this car

Your right I do over think things to improve on it because I am unwilling to half *** my work, sorry....

porterhousesteak

half ***? 50% effort? thats the kind of things the american dream was based off of. ill tell you this. ill put my life into the hands of a 3mm tolerance before i put it into the welds made along the edge of a major structure of the car. if you know so much about welding, how does the heat generated from welding effect the strength of the metal. it warps metal and makes it softer. i can bet that if something was to happen those welds would be the first to give. argue with that.

iceblue

Maybe you didn’t know but the whole firewall of the car is only spot welded into place. I think my full beads across the whole thing will be much stronger. You won’t warp the metal if you move your wand properly at the right speed. A mig also does not generate a tone of heat as well not needed to weld 16ga sheet metal.

porterhousesteak

still generates enough heat to melt metal. and the style of welding you are referring to is a snake weld. i know.

MARTIN

Listen guy... WTF are you talking about? So by your judgement, seam welding will weaken the metal... ARE YOU FUKIN SERIOUS??? EVERY rally car has this done to its chasis. Now you tell me why this is done... O and BTW, the guys with the integra, did it in his front yard.
The integrity hasnt changed one bit...

Fourhorseracing

Attitude. Come on man, this is a ******* web forum. There are one of you in everyone I have ever seen man...but whatever. You have suceeded in disrespecting me, my team, my car, and my work ethic in general. So if that is what makes you sleep better at night, go sleep nice. Really I do not care. YOu are one boy, one person who is halfway across the country. I spend more time in my garage than I do posting on here cause my teams work speaks for itself. I am happy that you and your gf got a bonding experince from playing with her car, that is what cars are all about to me. But the instant you start taking such a tehcnical stance on things and go on the offensive about someone else project...that is the reason so few import people get the respect from the older muscle car generation. To them you look like a child that is throwing a rant. Why do you do it? Can you give me a reason? What is the purpose behind trying to tear apart piece by piece someone else project? And if your answer is "your attitude", then go **** yourself, that is a cop-out.

Fourhorseracing

Has he put it on a fram machine martin?

classicauto

iTrader: (3)

ummm......not to be a nit picker......but the heat generated by a weld does not make metal softer once its cooled...it makes it harder and therefore slightly more brittle.

However if you are trying to argue that welding something structural on the car lessens the vehicles integrity then I had better get back the thousnads of vehicles I have repaired collision damage on because according to your remarks they all have soft and spongy frames......

2RICE4U

1-10...10 being hardest. how hard would you say it is to do this swap.

Fourhorseracing

iI guess it depends on which way you do it. EIther way it is not very easy. I would say probably a 9 or 10. YOu need good know-how on welding, cutting, fabrication, and you need to be able to think on your feet. cause sometimes things do not match up perfectly.

iceblue

Dude you disrespected yourself your own intelligence your integrity and your team. I did not.

It don’t matter? Spare us just look at the reply’s in your thread and the reply’s in mine. Just why do you think they differ so much? Perhaps how you presented it your cop outs and your general lacking information in your hatred responses aimed towards the whole group. So you did a RHD apparently ok cool, so do you want your dick sucked now? I mean cmon dude, then you go on as some type of professional body man then challenge other people. Where you were clearly proven unskillful in your deeds, then wanting to attack us again.

Now you want to cry in the corner because someone gets technical. Why do we get technical or why do I? Because a car is yours and other peoples lives at stake. If you want to do something to your car do it right the correct way with the proper tolerances and processes or do not do it at all! When you do it right people will praise your work, when you hack it together then run your im God mouth people will pick your work apart. I want to take the time and do it right because this is mine or my girls life I am messing with and my responsibility! It is foolish to half *** my work and jeopardize innocent humans lives and someone’s I car about.


-- Rx7Boi -- Yea it depends on your method but this is at least 7 in difficulty. When you get into cutting and swapping the firewall it jumps immediately into the 9ish range. That is the whole reason I was strong about warning people before trying this and try and tell them what to expect and what things they need to know and understand before doing it. As I am and have been doing for several other people on the forum if you do attempt it I would be more then happy to help you through it, providing you understand what your getting into.

InMyWhiteTII

Just for the sake of reference, how hard, on this scale, would you rate an engine rebuild? From tear-out to reinstallation.

First gen man

iTrader: (24)

lol i got tired of reading arguing...

Dont hold this suggestion to me, but why not just cut out a piece of a jdm firewall, where the majority of the holes are. Then weld it into the correct place on the a-spec firewall? One set of measurements, and one big weld, without taking your entire firewall out.

Alex Rodriguez

iTrader: (137)

well thats what iceblue did..only if you would of read...dudhhhh
no seriously look at iceblues blog everything is there i was doing the swap but backed out due to my marriage and moving acroos the country so one day i will

why...i am use to driving RHD hahahahahah I driven rhd longer than i have a lhd

iceblue

That is entirely another skill all in its own.

Fourhorseracing

OK guys, dash board is all in, but I am not looking for the Fuel Cut defender...I am not doing that make it yourself thing...I looked at it, sure it works, but I dunno...I am not sure I trust the schematics. Anyway, who can I get this from?

Just a little update: dashboard is back in, new shocks and springs all the way around finally, finishing the gauge wire in this weekend...then it is all up to that damn FCD. So a little help please...