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Old 10-05-06 | 06:56 AM
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Old 10-05-06 | 09:14 AM
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cheapest way.

buy a 13bt from an s4, rebuild it, ( no porting really neccesary but why not)

rtek 2.0, good for 300whp

720 secondaries

255lph fuel pump

fmic

bnr hybrid turbo or stock(pffffft)

turbo back exhaust

coilovers, blahblah and BAM!drift

maybe a good boost controller too.

thats like 5 grandish. not bad for what you get
Old 10-05-06 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rxsevinn
imo if ur a beginner dont worry about any of that stuff.. p port bridge street swaps are all things that should be out of ur mind at this point. like others said focus on suspension and learn the car. im on my second fc and i have benn able to drift both of them with stcok suspension and one with only a catback. just take the time and learn thats all
LoL, how is he going to learn the car if it doesn't even have an engine? Engine swaps and engine options should be the first thing on his mind... that way he can actually get the car running to drive it and learn it... Oh yeah way to revive an old thread for that too.


Originally Posted by classicauto
To expand on as well as prove Zach's point here...

View this thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=516538

Those numbers were achieved on mild exhaust port and STOCK intake port.....just something to chew on
Oh Boy..... Re-read that thread bro, those dyno numbers NEVER happened. Hes also using Methanol injection and the engine is streetported.
Old 10-05-06 | 12:51 PM
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Oh Boy..... Re-read that thread bro, those dyno numbers NEVER happened. Hes also using Methanol injection and the engine is streetported.
pwned!

I meant to link to Lupe's thread about his car.....the one with the youtube link to the video of the dyno pulls where the mainfold glows red HOTTT!!

oops....I should be more careful next time hehe
Old 10-05-06 | 12:57 PM
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LoL, But Lupe's car is "Race Ported"
Old 10-05-06 | 01:02 PM
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I don't know why you're all so worried about the engine. The suspension should come first in a drift car. Coilovers, address the rear wheel steering, suspension bushings, sway bars, tower braces.

As for the engine... big single turbo on a heavily ported 13B-RE (stock motor)/20B/LS1, alcohol injection. Exhaust, intake and flywheel ugprades too, of course.

The LS1 will throw off the weight balance a little, perhaps more in a stripped down car. Whether that's worth a little extra power, I dunno.
Old 10-05-06 | 03:25 PM
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20BPP - 466bhp. sounds mean. has no problems regarding tourque or power.
eats gtr powered silvias and cefiros for lunch
Will be NZs best drift car shortly

Old 10-05-06 | 06:20 PM
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Old 10-05-06 | 06:31 PM
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im still giggling that the persona a 240 has. "it has to have an SR20DET before it can drift". bah. ive seen some badass KA24's and if i had a 240, id keep the KA in there. i like the motors and they can handle some abuse. all my friends who have 240's that do drifting competions have them. some have SR20's to.
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Old 10-05-06 | 06:45 PM
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Perhispheral port?
Old 10-05-06 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jigsaw
Perhispheral port?
the peripheral port or P-port gets rid of the side inlets and makes a air intake similar to the exhaust port
Old 10-05-06 | 06:49 PM
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******* aye. it sounds sooooo mean. when it takes off it sounds like a F1 car. its gota line lock too for skids ( which he does lots of) even gets out of the car and waves his hands in the air while ripping it up!!!
Old 10-05-06 | 07:44 PM
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Old 10-05-06 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarybeat1287
im still giggling that the persona a 240 has. "it has to have an SR20DET before it can drift". bah. ive seen some badass KA24's and if i had a 240, id keep the KA in there. i like the motors and they can handle some abuse. all my friends who have 240's that do drifting competions have them. some have SR20's to.
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thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard lol. i was reading about a guy who just got his D1 lisence in a KA24 powered s13. although i hate old kas. they get all clunky.

drift the stock engine and worry about suspention mods first unless you do the 20b. i dont know how much they way but you may need a bit stiffer front suspension if you go that route. or unless the stock engine is fucked like my S4s is.

PM me if you wanna meet up sometime. my car is almost back together, i just need to get my flywheel.
Old 10-05-06 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rxsevinn
imo if ur a beginner dont worry about any of that stuff.. p port bridge street swaps are all things that should be out of ur mind at this point. like others said focus on suspension and learn the car. im on my second fc and i have benn able to drift both of them with stcok suspension and one with only a catback. just take the time and learn thats all
Best advice I've ever read around here.
Old 10-05-06 | 09:46 PM
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god drifting my DREAM!!! turning my baby into one of thos some day... how the hell do u get a d1 license?
Old 10-05-06 | 10:18 PM
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Ok, thus far theres been good advice and bad. He has already seam welded the car. Next steps for upgrades would be a racing beat exhaust header, exhaust presilencer, y pipe, mufflers. After you can "Hear Your Engine" you have to be able to "Feel the Car." Bring your suspension up to par with a pair of rear toe eliminators, aka the ugly rear steer. Then after that its up to you, some reccomended stuff for drifting as upgrades to keep maint down would be a new radiator, clutch assy including flywheel, then after that, the skys the limit. If you want put a nice HKS Super Megaflow Intake on her too :P Not like you need it, the stock engine puts out to much power for drifting anyways Good luck man! I wish you the best.
Exhaust Header:
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16129
Presilencer:
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16448
Y Pipe:
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16411
R and L Mufflers
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16438
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=16439
Rear Toe Eliminators
http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=14050
Old 10-05-06 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FD3S2005
god drifting my DREAM!!! turning my baby into one of thos some day... how the hell do u get a d1 license?
Missed this, check the app out, it isnt guaronteed unless you know some people though. https://www.d1gp.com/06_applications...ion%20Form.pdf

You need to register as a driver, then they scout u, and if they deem you acceptable, you go to quality rounds, and after that your allotted a 20x20 pit space, and 5 tickets. :P GL!
Old 10-05-06 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ericgrau
I don't know why you're all so worried about the engine. The suspension should come first in a drift car. Coilovers, address the rear wheel steering, suspension bushings, sway bars, tower braces.

As for the engine... big single turbo on a heavily ported 13B-RE (stock motor)/20B/LS1, alcohol injection. Exhaust, intake and flywheel ugprades too, of course.

The LS1 will throw off the weight balance a little, perhaps more in a stripped down car. Whether that's worth a little extra power, I dunno.

It seems like he doesn't have an engine. Also, a big single on a heavily ported motor is a waste for drifting...way too much power.


LS1's weigh almost EXACTLY the same as an FD motor. Now this is a STOCK LS1, STOCK FD motor. You argue FD can get rid of emissions, heavy twins, etc...but the LS1 can get rid of cast manifolds, heavy intakes, etc. also.
Old 10-06-06 | 11:53 PM
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I didn't mean to focus too much on the engine anyway. I'll agree that's too much power.

How about a heavily ported N/A with balanced rotors for a higher redline? i.e., to get the most power you can without adding any weight. I believe the max is 300HP for such a setup, and probably not so much if you keep it reliable. Will that be enough HP?

I could say something about the LS1 but I don't want to get into that whole debate. A while back I got the idea to ask nicely about the LS1 and the LS1 guys gave me some very helpful information. The thread faded away before the LS1 ****** or rotary ****** got much of a chance to respond.

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Old 10-07-06 | 12:16 AM
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Is this what the 2nd gen section has come to?
Old 10-07-06 | 12:37 AM
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just drop in the ls1, madd drift motar!!!!!
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