Alright, i Have a 91 na rx7, i ve got it stripped down to the bare frame, ive got it seam welded, i need some ideas on a good engine ideas for it. i dont care how streetable it is because it wont be driven on the street. i was thinking of a ported 3rd gen motor

 

for about the same price you could get a 3 rotor swaped in
for a cheaper way go with a bridge port or, P-port 13B-RE since you dont need streatability
just be shure to keep those revs up way up.

 

For an all out drift car, I'd go LS1 for its broad powerband and ridiculous torque. Go ahead, flame me.

 

d0rfit0 sydew@ys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!1 y0oes! "i dont care how streetable it is because it wont be driven on the street" < what? . um ok why would you bother putting in a 13b-re? you know it doesnt just bolt right in right?...

 

*cough*LS1*cough*

 

Bcool=3 rotor fc= ******* sick!!!!!!!...but for jDm m4d d0r1f7o i'd get the 3 rotor with p port...there is my 2 pennies

 

okay, a 3 rotor would be more AWESOME, but if you're serious about competing, the LS1 is no joke

 

I'd also go with ls1, pretty light and lots of torque. Or if you want to keep the wankle motor.. just a FC turboII motor with nice small turbo like a 60-1 or gt35r and a street port should be more then enough. Although the LS1 will be pretty bulletproof powerplant.

 

You dont need gobs of power to drift. Just port the crap out of your NA and have fun.

 

sure, at first. But, once you start getting to drift with the big boys...well ask yourself this; how many D1 cars are NA? As much as i dont like the LS1, it is a good powerplant. lots of tourqe. You could hang with the big boys with a tri-turbo 3 rotor, but get ready to empty your wallet and go into debt doing it.

 

I'd go with the 20B P-port. You'll probably be revving it up high to drift anyway so it should
makes lots and lots of power. Probably better response than a turbo as well.

 

A 13B-REW motor from an FD3S is a waste of time, IMO.
You're going to be making significantly more power than stock, and they will all most likely go big single?
The 13B blocks all end up about the same, especially if you start out with a Kouki FC3S 13BT motor.

So it's more a question about...
How much power are you looking to make?
Are you trying to be rice and show off?

BTW, how old are you?


-Ted

 

the winner of the D1 GP drove an AE86 Trueno, making about 180 hp, just goes to show that the other cars w/ turbo didn't help them at all, drifting is skill, you only need enough power to break the rear end lose. I'm def not dissing turbos, I would go with a TII engine, upgrade intercooler, intake, exhaust and maybe a couple other things. Focus on suspension, if u want a serious drift car Tein makes drift specific coilovers, then get sway bars, strut bars, and there are even tires made for drifting, almost forgot toe eliminators we be your friend for drifting.

 

if you are looking for lots of power...there's really no need for changing from a 2nd gen motor - they are DAMN capable with porting and huge singles...

the only reason to go 20B would be - basically - bling factor and torque

a 13BT can easily make 500hp - how much more do you need for a drift car? you gonna drift around Italy without stopping or something? hehe

 

why get an rx-7 if your gonna go piston? your killing the whole concept of the car. thats my opinion and many can follow. the wankel motor is what is meant to be in the 7. If you have money, go with the 20B. But if you wanna save some money, I don't see why a 13bt wouldn't be able to compete at a good level. the 13bt can provide enough power and torque for drifting. the fc is one of the most popular in japan for drifting. with the rotary turbo it is a different feel of drifting than other cars. In drifting, SKILL is more important. You dont need all out power. If you want a piston, go get a 240sx with sr20.

 

well i think that the 13BT with a nice turbo setup, good fuel management would be easily drift-able. hell the Apexi FD (mind u that is the 2003 champ) is somewhere around 350 hp

i say anywhere from 300-350 is good to go (easily done on a 13BT, hell i am doing that right now)

u should look more into suspension, LSD, and learn to drift first before thinking about some 500 hp stuff that will burn a hole in your wallet


edit:
not necessarily a REALLY reliable site but the info
348hp @ 6700 RPM which if i remember right.... that isn't too far off spec

http://www.jtuned.com/content/templa...nt-article.htm

 

First off, an S5 13BT would be more than sufficient for what you need. If you "have" to upgrade the motor then get a 13B-RE. An REW would be a PITA to install. The 20B would be great, but it's very expensive.

And to people saying "bridge port" and "peri port" your motor. That is the worst thing you could do!!!! A medium to large street port is ALL you need. There is a reason that EVERY rotary that competes in D1 is either running a street port or stock ports. With bridge ports or PP's you have to keep the engine wrapped WAY up there in the RPM band. And there are several times in comp drifting that you will be sitting lower in the rev band.

And as much as I absolutely HATE to admit it, an LS1 would be a good choice too. They are light, powerful, create killer torque, and are damn near bulletproof.

Zach

 

Heck, even an N/A is sufficient for drifting.

 

easily enough hp, u could go w/ a bone stock T2 motor and just focus on suspension and other handeling peices. That is all you really need, I mean were talking drift not drag. If u want all around car another engien wuold make more sense, but the title says all out drift car.

 

To expand on as well as prove Zach's point here...

View this thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/af61r-%2A%2A%2A520-whp-%40-22psi%2A%2A%2A-516538/

Those numbers were achieved on mild exhaust port and STOCK intake port.....just something to chew on

 

btw you do know that getting into drifting costs a lot of money right? you just dont go and attach a few pipes here and there to your car and start drifting with the pros..

 

get a 13bt from an s5
get it rebuilt, and ported
get an exhaust, front mount, downpipe, fcd, new injectors, and a standalone
get it tuned
next spend all your money on suspension
you're going to need alot of suspension work before you will be a good drift competitor
and after that
track time
learn your car, know everything about how it feels, how it handles
know its limits
then learn to drift
or go the easy way and get a 240
i have one i'll sell you

 

imo if ur a beginner dont worry about any of that stuff.. p port bridge street swaps are all things that should be out of ur mind at this point. like others said focus on suspension and learn the car. im on my second fc and i have benn able to drift both of them with stcok suspension and one with only a catback. just take the time and learn thats all

 

You guys are forgetting some elements: LSD and Coilovers before engine swaps.

 

Way to go for a half year thread resurrection...


-Ted