vipers

iTrader: (8)

lol... dead thread revived..... a few years back i aquired a set of evo 8 front brakes.... wondered if they would work on the car... then decided to scrap the idea and just install endless pads, rebuild the calipers, add stainless brake lines, and ill bet my brakes worked just as good as those brembos would have... and i bet it was cheaper than having a machine shop build brackets


and its really true, you'll normally never see a fraction of what you invest into your fc if you sell it... i put $13k into my motor in 2006, not to mention the several thousands into the rest of the car... then when i parted the car out.. i made around $7-8k parting out the entire car! i lost sooo much damn $$$.. but thats not why i did it... i wasnt building an investment.. i was building it for the sheer joy of doing it! and i dont regret it for a second!

note... i now own a evo IX, so i got to use evo brembos anyways even if its on an evo, not a rx7

staticguitar313

iTrader: (2)

^ you need another 7, just a mellow one, i never got why you parted that work of art . . .

vipers

iTrader: (8)

static... i have another FC.... its an 88' SE converted to turbo... but im too busy to work on it...plus im having too much fun with the evo

MaczPayne

iTrader: (5)

Gotta recoup for a bit right?!

vipers

iTrader: (8)

exactly... the orange one sucked the life out of me for a year! its really nice getting in a car that i know will start in the morning still hard to get used to when friends ask to go for a spin, and i can now take 3 friends at once, not just 1

Project7

iTrader: (16)

OK, back to the topic of the thread, haha

I got most of the stuff mocked up and if it works out I think everyone will be really surprised at what I've done to pull this off. I get the machined parts back Monday. Once I have it all mocked up again I'll be sure to take pictures. At this point it looks very promising and has only cost me 50 bucks at the machine shop so far. More to follow.

vipers

iTrader: (8)

^^^ very cool... the machine shop i talked to wanted well over $300... and that was if i did all the measuring, and since im not perfect with measuring, 1-2mm off would be hell! and brakes wasnt something i wanted to chance messing up

cant wait to see the pics!

RETed

Let me get this straight...

You got brakes that costs more than the car itself...
And now you're bragging how cheap you got your adapters made to put those expensive brakes on your car?

I don't get it...


-Ted

Project7

iTrader: (16)

I'm not bragging, just looks like its going to work and be a lot less involved than everyone things.

Why all the h8? I'm not some noob in the game making posts to start pissing matches. I got the brakes at a great price (400 for calipers, Hawk pads and rotors) and wanted them for the performance. I track the car as much as possible and have experienced fadding on longer sessions. My hope is to eliminate the fadding. Granted they do look nice sitting behind some rims too.

And to put the "brakes are worth more than the car" crap to bed, my car is worth a lot to me. The enjoyment I get from working on it and driving it makes it nearly priceless. I don't care what its worth, because I don't have any intentions of selling it. I've basically restored the entire car and done some pretty trick mods. https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/my-answer-fc-surge-tank-placement-703810/page2/ It's not by any means the nicest FC ever, but I get lots of looks and compliments.

http://www.interneticon.com/pics/cha3.jpg
http://www.interneticon.com/pics/cha4.jpg



I think its funny that I'm even trying to justify any of this with a response. This was intended to be informative, until Ice and Ted started their h8 in 08 campaign as running mates.

NZConvertible

That's why you tell the whole story in your first post instead of your last. At face value this mod is a pointless waste of money, but if you explain that your car already has a lot of money put into it, you got the brakes very cheap, and there actually is a need for an upgrade, then it makes much more sense. If you don't want negative posts, don't make yourself such an easy target. Basic forum stuff...

vipers

iTrader: (8)

WOW! beautiful car mang! i aaaalllmmmoosssttt painted mine gold, but decided to do orange instead.....

and i thought it was funny too about the brakes being worth more than the car... obviously people havnt priced them on ebay.... very easy to find good front brembos off of wrecked evos for 500-800....


please keep us posted and ignore the haters

lol, and both ted and icemark can be bullies if they dont agree 100% with whats being done.. its their nature... but they are very fc saavy, so you gotta take the good with the bad

Sideview_S13

icemark needs to hush. if you track you car enough you will find out OE brakes are inefficient and something NOT mazda is needed. MY friend got a complete used stoptech front break kit for $150. Retail is over 2grand. omg the car they went on a car that was worth less then 1500dealer. Boohoo. get a life quit whining. Nice car project7.

NZConvertible

Mark never said anything about the brakes' ability, only the cost. And since no cost was mentioned, full price was assumed. Hence my post above. Now you hush.

RETed

I find it funny that people become certified brake engineers overnight and make claims that have no basis on fact.

This has got me scratching my head...?

Have you ever read the GRM article called "Pulp Friction"?
I'll even give you the link...
http://www.scirocco.org/faq/brakes/p...n/pfpage1.html

Now don't you feel stupid for saying those things?


-Ted

calio64

beutiful car project7

keep up the good work and quality parts

vipers

iTrader: (8)

damn ... nice link ted! i read the whole enchalada! very informative.... especially the pedal and master cylinder sections....

the one aguable thing about it is when he states the brakes dont stop the car, the tires do..... if any one of those things wernt in place, the car would not stop (pads, calipers, lines, pedal, master cyl..etc)... so every part is just as important in stopping the vehicle, not just the tires.. in the end, the last thing put to work to halt the car is the tires, but everything else is put to work just the same.... but great article nonetheless

MaczPayne

iTrader: (5)

Brake cooling goes a long way. That is why I stayed away from the idea of stock s5 fog lights in my bumper.

Project7

iTrader: (16)

I never in any of my posts stated that I was a certified brake engineer. And as far as making claims without fact goes, the link you sent only further illustrates what I stated. Check the last page, last column, sections 2 & 3. The article was a very good primer on brakes. After reading it, I am glad I have an option still on the Evo brake booster and master cylinder in the event I don't like how things feel. They will give me a few more options to work with.

No, I don't feel stupid having said what I did. It's you that should really feel foolish IMO because you made no recommendations to help or posted any info/experiences you've had on the subject. Just criticisms. Your site (fc3spro.com) is a great resource, I remember finding it and using it many years ago. In addition to that your obviously very familiar with RX-7s and a well respected member of the forum. That being said, I guess I would have expected something other than your responses so far. Like I said before, I am not trying to start a flaming war. I was just looking for help in accomplishing what I wanted to do, not debate whether anyone thinks I should or if its worth it.

Anyways, back to the subject. I'm picking up the machined parts today and should have pictures of the mock up tonight.

Piranha

Wow, even Icemark and RETed are hating on this thread.

I sold him the brakes for a "fair" used price. If you guys knew something other than FCs you'd know used Evo brakes are being sold left and right for a LOT cheaper. I had an Evo IX and totaled it, now I'm parting it out.

Project has done a lot of favors for me and I figured I could pay him back with a "deal."

If you guys weren't dicks all the time I'm sure you'd have friends that hooked you up from time to time as well.

I had brake fade with the Evo (yes, it's a heavy car).

Only this forum will say bigger brakes are not worth it. Who cares what your FC is worth, who mod's their FCs based on the "market value?" You're preaching to the choir bringing up the stealership buy back price.

When I had my TII I had 2 grand in electronics with engine management, nice suspension, and an FMIC. I also had 57Cs on there.


Anyway, if he can't get them to work I will buy them back, not a big deal.

Quit hating because you can't get your grimmy mits on something as nice for your own car. Maybe you guys should go back to stock.... that will increase your value for the dealer. Then you can trade it in and get something faster!

RETed

I don't make friends cause I want hook-up's.
To me that's using people.

I've got enough hook-up's, so I really don't need your help either.

Hate?
How about you guys grow some skin?
You take things too seriously...


-Ted

Piranha

Yeah, because you're hilarious. Project wasn't friends with me years ago for "hook ups," but if he was a dick like 90% of the rotards out there he wouldn't have gotten those parts, nuff said. I've bought parts from him a few times, hung out like a regular rx-7 bud a couple times...

I wasn't offering you a hook up. What, are you going to put the 4g63 in your car? "It's worth more than your whole car."

Thick skin? You don't bother me, just annoyances just like the rest of the ****** here. It's hard to find threads where people act halfway decent.

Project was looking on feedback for if people had this fit, and you joined the "March of ********" going off on a giant tangent on how the brakes were worth more than his car (wrong).

I have a better idea, get out of the thread. Just because you have nothing better to do at work doesn't give you the right to fill it up with bullshit. Amazing how even the "old timers" are asses now. I use to respect you guys.

The difference between joking and being a dick: Jokes are FUNNY!

RETed

I guess you have no life...

Criticizing? Yes.
New? No.
Better? That remains to be seen.
Accomplished? Last I heard it wasn't complete.

Criticize? Yes.
From what I read...
Poster (he's not even the fricken' OP, so that makes him a thread jacker?) got a good deal on set of BREMBO brakes from another car and wants to stuff them on his FC...
Said poster does not even mention brake caliper piston bore size, pad size, brake rotor diameter (and thickness)...
To me, the said poster saw BREMBO and jizzed in his pants...
There was no objective analysis for this project, period.
So, in the end, it sounds like a RICE upgrade.


I am quivering in my pants knowing that your **** (and his) is bigger than mine...
See how stupid that sounds?


Wow, all of a sudden, this guy is on the same level as Henry Ford!
You sure you're not in the USA?


Coming from someone who hides behind such a vulgar login, I'm sure it's legit...
I'm stealing one from you: "Not."


Maybe he'll go fetch you when he sees this...
You should've stayed under the rock you crawled out under.


-Ted

Icemark

Okay, this thread is done, and has just denegrated to name calling and the BS that goes with it, and is no longer technical related.

If the thread originator would like it re-opened he can PM myself or any 2nd gen technical section moderator with a valid reason.

Otherwise... thread closed.