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Old 12-08-09, 06:45 PM
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PA 86 gxl please help

edited engine is an s4.


I replaced the fuel injectors and the spark plugs. There is plenty of spark and the engine is flooding. The air pump was removed before I got it and thats it. They never blocked anything off or pluged any holes. I was wondering what I have to block off or plug so that the car will start?

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Old 12-08-09, 07:14 PM
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Why do you need to know the differences? Do you not know which you have?
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There could be 100 different things. How do you know the engine is flooding? Engine flooding is not a regular thing with FI engines. What happens when you try to start it?
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Why do you need to know the differences? Do you not know which you have?
i didnt know that there were specific dates for s4 and s5's but i read it in the forum and its an 86 so s4
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There could be 100 different things. How do you know the engine is flooding? Engine flooding is not a regular thing with FI engines. What happens when you try to start it?
when i turn the key it just keeps turning but will not kick over it really sounds like it wants to turn over but like i said theres no air injection smog pump but i read somewhere that the s4 does not need one to run. i know the engines flooding cuz i keep taking out the spark plugs to de flood it and there soaked with gas.
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Are you deflooding the engine properly?
A rotary engine will not unflood itself like a piston engine will.
Have you routed and capped off everything properly?
Has compression been checked? You may want to start there first.
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Originally Posted by ForsakenRX7
Are you deflooding the engine properly?
A rotary engine will not unflood itself like a piston engine will.
Have you routed and capped off everything properly?
Has compression been checked? You may want to start there first.


i am deflooding the engine correctly and no after them dumbass who had the car before me took the air injection smog pump out he didnt do **** so all the hoses ports and stuff are unblocked. i have not checked compression yet.
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Ah, I see. Your having to correct stupidity first. Well...its up to you, but maybe you should just do an emissions removal on the car. It'll allow you to go through everything they were probably trying to do as well as simplify things for you to work on. Then do yourself a compression test to see what your looking at internally.

Do a search on here for the s4 N/A emmissions removal procedure.
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Check you CAS if its off by even one tooth your car will flood/fail to start
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if i may ask... what unflooding process are you doing?
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i had the same thing happen to me, the guy before me changed stuff out and obviously didnt know what he was doing. after i fixed everything it was still flooding out and i found out that he had the wrong year injectors on it he just forced them into the original harness. i changed them out and it worked. not saying that is exactly whats wrong with yours but doing a simple test on them will rule that out...or point to your prob.
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