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Old 11-27-02 | 02:26 AM
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kool man thanks....... and i finaly found the damn cruise control box, its the one that say mitsubichi (sp?) threw me off when i was told it was a 6/7 row plug,

btw pulled the plug out and ready to cut even check to make sure the cruise light didn't come one once i unplugged it

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Old 11-27-02 | 02:32 AM
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Alright, here's the series 5:
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| s | q | o | m |???| g | e | c | a |
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| t | r | p | n | i | j | h | f | d | b |
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Here's series 4:
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| B?? | LW | GO | ??? | Y? | G?? | GW |
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| WG | (BR) | LR | GR | GY | (BG) | GB |
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Now, this is the automatic transmision version of the series 4 (thus why i have BR and BG in brackets) I believe series 4 goes by color and series 5 goes by function with a letter. So, he either cut BR and LR or he cut GY and BG, which one it is I will let you know shortly.
Old 11-27-02 | 02:36 AM
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Damn dude u r ******* smart
lol

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Old 11-27-02 | 02:40 AM
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BR = 4AT Control Unit (AT CPU)
LR = cruise resume switch? (don't want to cut that, I'd think!)
BG = start cut relay
GY = main on the cruise switch

neither make sense to me... I don't know why you'd cut either one of the cruise switch, unless I'm reading how he did it wrong.
Old 11-27-02 | 02:46 AM
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OOOOOH! I SEEE! I get it now! hah I feel like an asshat! He said cut the TWO WIRES that are the 2nd wires from the end, meaning cut BR and BG (the damn wires I had in brackets, hahah!) So let me figure out which these are on a series 5 car and we can give it a try!
Old 11-27-02 | 02:54 AM
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wouldn't it be b/g and g/r?

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Alright, from what I've come up with, it'll be G and J on the series 5 connector. Here's what I suggest doing, if you can, push the pin completely out of the socket and tape it up with electrical tape (that way if it doesn't work you can replace it without it being cut/etc) If you're too impatient and wouldn't mind soldering it together if it's not right, well then, be my guest and cut G and J. Here's what they are
G: EC-AT control unit (AT CPU,only for automatics so it can be cut with no worries, but I suggest you just take it out of the socket and save it just incase)
J: clutch switch (manual transmission) or inhibitor switch (AT))

Now, there's a problem. it WON'T work unless J see's 5 volts. How can we do this? Good question If I had a wiring diagram it'd be a lot easier, but J will think it's in N or P if it doesn't see 5 volts on it. You can either jimmy rig it up, or wait some more while I think up something. But we're makign progress?
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Well, the s5 FSM shows the function of each terminal, while the series 4 shows a color fo the wire, and then you have to trace it down on the wiring diagram. However, they're not in the same place, as I mentioned above it's G and J that we need to take care of.
Old 11-27-02 | 02:59 AM
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yes we r, if j goes to the clutch switch(on a 5-speedwhich it is now) , there should be a way to run the wire to it (clutch switch) which should be 5v right????


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That's where the problem is, the clutch switch isn't hooked up to anything (unless you hooked it up with the ignition, but I believe that's 12v and not 5, if you have a volt meter you can prove me wrong, but I believe it to be 12v (if you even did hook it up that way)
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So, do you happen to have a multimeter handy, or are should I start looking for a source for 5v?
Old 11-27-02 | 03:19 AM
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cruis box on my 89 vert is silver above the cpu (drivers side kick panel) it does say mitsubishi.

second....I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU !!!!

I WANT SOOOOBAD TO HAVE A 5 SPEED IN MY VERT

my auto is starting to shift a little funny so maybe soon i do this swap!!

just kidding i dont hate ya bro..i envy all that have done the swap...should the opprtunity arise for me ill be calling on ya for help!! i know of a 90 gtu with a 5 speed in a junkyard right now and could probly get everything out that i need for around 600 bucks..hoping less!! but id have to remove all parts myself and im just not that good.

someday!!

congrats!! byt he way i dont know if its cuz i have an aouto or what but the cruise sucks anyway on 7s(mine does atleast) always seems like its revving up and down....never smooth!!
Old 11-27-02 | 03:24 AM
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This really should be archived once we get it straightened away, too much good info in here to just pass up!
Old 11-27-02 | 03:26 AM
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i have one but like i said no light to looking a around i am going crash and i will go scope it out tomorrow before i go to work, i sure we can figure it out i can't thank you enough for all your help man i owe u man

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Old 11-27-02 | 03:28 AM
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Yeah lots of good info (wow that would mean a thread i started would get archived (and of course u and others helped got to give yall some credit ), brings a tear to your eye

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Old 11-27-02 | 03:28 AM
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ahh, sleep sounds good as well. I'll think about it more tomorrow and try to find a better s5 wiring diagram so I can figure out the clutch switch's wiring schematic, then we should be able to come up with something or other.
Old 12-01-02 | 12:08 AM
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ok how about this: i find a 12+ volt power source, and run a 5v resistor from there to the clutch switch to the two wires???? sounds right??


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Old 12-01-02 | 03:15 PM
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it would make sense, if you could verify it wasn't more than 5 volts, sorry I've been extremely busy moving.
Old 12-01-02 | 05:27 PM
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well i'll try it out and see, sometime this week mabe

i'll let you know how it goes


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