255/40-17 on the rear?
10-13-03, 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Maxthe7man
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Every aftermarket wheel I have used on my cars wieghs far less than any stock wheel combination, even my 275/40/17 on Enkei rims wieghs far less than any of the wheels any of my rx-7's came with... There is a difference of 5 lbs between the my TII oem's and my current rears...
Enkei's are generally heavy rims. There are a few exceptions, but the majority of Enkei's are heavy. Enkei rims are just plain cast - nothing fancy; this is why their **** is heavy.
I also disagree that 255 is to wide for an N/a, my n/a could easily have used 255's at the dragstrip last year, and who knows, what if he goes to an N20 kit or does turbo kit, I hate buying rims and tires twice...
Ford does the 245 on the the 17x8 rears from stock, 255 is probably not that bad of fitment depending on brand, plus it would afford the rim more protection from curbs and such..
I am a fan of as much rubber as possible, with my TII on 225's I use to get wheel spin all the way through 3rd gear , with the 275's its far more driveable, no use having power if you can't put it down.. With my N/a sometimes 225's aren't enough, you have to launch n/a's pretty hard, and the wider the rear tire the better stick you get...
Running high stagger sizes from front to rear is also not recommended in my book. I like to keep my stagger much closer, as you'll ending up inducing to much understeer with so much tire in back. The fronts cannot take much more than a 225 wide tire - why run big tires in back when it's not helping you corner? That's just stupid and edging on dangerous. If you're spinning tires through the gears, you either don't know how to control your vehicle, or you need to re-evalutate what's wrong with your set-up. Spinning tires (or burning out) is a total waste of money - if you're into that kinda thing, then my suggestions don't apply to you.
It sounds like you're a weekend drag racers who can't afford a dedicated set of drag tires; hell, I used to have a spare set of FD rims with Nitto drag radials I used to keep when I wanted to go down to the drag strip. Running on street tires at the drag strip is waste of money and a waste of time - you will not get "nice" 60' times, or you end up burning up rubber unnecessarily. Hell, if you like wasting money, I'm sure the tire shops love you. I, on the other hand, like to expand the limits of what the RX-7 was made for - for driving, not drag racing. Therefore, handling is paramount, and all your suggestions run counter to this philosophy...
-Ted
10-13-03, 04:11 PM
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I'll break the mood in this thread! A little Wham!
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10-13-03, 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by RETed
Yeah, you have a problem with me so you attack my replies...
16" x 7" Kouki Turbo II and GTUs rims are approximately 17#. There are a LOT of rims of the same size that are heavier...significantly. I don't know where you got your info from, but 17# is pretty damn light for a 16" x 7" rim. Just check out any of those cheap-*** import rags with wheel shops advertising that fits on the whole page - most of them are HEAVIER than 17#.
Enkei's are generally heavy rims. There are a few exceptions, but the majority of Enkei's are heavy. Enkei rims are just plain cast - nothing fancy; this is why their **** is heavy.
Wow, just because you go drag racing, you want to run bigger tires in the rear all the time? That's about the lamest excuse I've heard so far. Where do you come up with this crap? If you want to go drag racing, get a DEDICATED set of rear tires - duh.
I guess you didn't see my comment about looking like a hot rod...
That's the problem - we have different views on topics. I like to use the "best" combination of tires and rims to get the best handling possible. Drag racing should be done on a dedicated set of tires. I do not go track racing on my street tires, and I don't expect people to run street tires at the track - if you're serious. Drag racing on street tires is just a waste of money.
Running high stagger sizes from front to rear is also not recommended in my book. I like to keep my stagger much closer, as you'll ending up inducing to much understeer with so much tire in back. The fronts cannot take much more than a 225 wide tire - why run big tires in back when it's not helping you corner? That's just stupid and edging on dangerous. If you're spinning tires through the gears, you either don't know how to control your vehicle, or you need to re-evalutate what's wrong with your set-up. Spinning tires (or burning out) is a total waste of money - if you're into that kinda thing, then my suggestions don't apply to you.
It sounds like you're a weekend drag racers who can't afford a dedicated set of drag tires; hell, I used to have a spare set of FD rims with Nitto drag radials I used to keep when I wanted to go down to the drag strip. Running on street tires at the drag strip is waste of money and a waste of time - you will not get "nice" 60' times, or you end up burning up rubber unnecessarily. Hell, if you like wasting money, I'm sure the tire shops love you. I, on the other hand, like to expand the limits of what the RX-7 was made for - for driving, not drag racing. Therefore, handling is paramount, and all your suggestions run counter to this philosophy...
-Ted
Yeah, you have a problem with me so you attack my replies...
16" x 7" Kouki Turbo II and GTUs rims are approximately 17#. There are a LOT of rims of the same size that are heavier...significantly. I don't know where you got your info from, but 17# is pretty damn light for a 16" x 7" rim. Just check out any of those cheap-*** import rags with wheel shops advertising that fits on the whole page - most of them are HEAVIER than 17#.
Enkei's are generally heavy rims. There are a few exceptions, but the majority of Enkei's are heavy. Enkei rims are just plain cast - nothing fancy; this is why their **** is heavy.
Wow, just because you go drag racing, you want to run bigger tires in the rear all the time? That's about the lamest excuse I've heard so far. Where do you come up with this crap? If you want to go drag racing, get a DEDICATED set of rear tires - duh.
I guess you didn't see my comment about looking like a hot rod...
That's the problem - we have different views on topics. I like to use the "best" combination of tires and rims to get the best handling possible. Drag racing should be done on a dedicated set of tires. I do not go track racing on my street tires, and I don't expect people to run street tires at the track - if you're serious. Drag racing on street tires is just a waste of money.
Running high stagger sizes from front to rear is also not recommended in my book. I like to keep my stagger much closer, as you'll ending up inducing to much understeer with so much tire in back. The fronts cannot take much more than a 225 wide tire - why run big tires in back when it's not helping you corner? That's just stupid and edging on dangerous. If you're spinning tires through the gears, you either don't know how to control your vehicle, or you need to re-evalutate what's wrong with your set-up. Spinning tires (or burning out) is a total waste of money - if you're into that kinda thing, then my suggestions don't apply to you.
It sounds like you're a weekend drag racers who can't afford a dedicated set of drag tires; hell, I used to have a spare set of FD rims with Nitto drag radials I used to keep when I wanted to go down to the drag strip. Running on street tires at the drag strip is waste of money and a waste of time - you will not get "nice" 60' times, or you end up burning up rubber unnecessarily. Hell, if you like wasting money, I'm sure the tire shops love you. I, on the other hand, like to expand the limits of what the RX-7 was made for - for driving, not drag racing. Therefore, handling is paramount, and all your suggestions run counter to this philosophy...
-Ted
Expanded the limits don't make me laugh, I've seen your car...
Re-evaluate whats wrong with my setup?....Its called 400 rwhp , thats why the car wears 275's, yeah think 225's are driveable with a T04, umm and you call yourself FC3s pro......
.....As far as the fronts not taking wider than that 225's, you seem to have a problem with reality, my car wears 235's fine and could have taken a 245...
The cobra tire fitment is tastefull, its not jacked up like a cat in heat....and big wide doesn't mean big tall, or do you not understand tire sizing?.....
I think you are stuck in 1987 or something ted..really...Max
10-13-03, 05:30 PM
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255's in action on 8" OE mustang cobra wheels (rear)
235/40's in front.
Click to see image. the stupid thing wont let me post it normaly...
235/40's in front.
Click to see image. the stupid thing wont let me post it normaly...
10-13-03, 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Maxthe7man
my cars are used for high performance driving on back highways
my cars are used for high performance driving on back highways
You can drop the personal insults, it's getting you no where and making you look stupid.
We run 225/245 F/R stagger ON THE RACE TRACK. It worked fine. I would NEVER run 225/275 F/R on the race track - that's just plain stupid. Why don't you go in the race section and post what you just told me - i bet you'd get laughed at real quick. Your statement above just backs up what I already know...
What does 400hp mean to me? Nothing. I know a lot of other "ignorant" people making the same if not more power than 400. It's called a "bigger budget". I don't build my car to post dyno numbers; I build my car for my own personal enjoyment. If you can't understand that, then stop pestering me.
Why does it always come down to a resume contest? It just shows how small you *thing* is. I don't care how much power you make; I care about how my car feels when I drive it. That's how all FC owners should feel. This I-make-more-power-than-you bullshit has got to stop - I would think you're smart enough to figure out why.
Haven't you seen the recent Akina thread that got deleted?
I attecked your statement not your personal - can we keep it this way? I get tired of people like you trying to insult me with stupid ****. It really gets tiring, especially with the big fiasco with the Akina thread. I hear good things about you, but all I see is replies with crap being thrown at me.
Is this some jealousy thing? My FC3S Pro site speaks for itself. I have no seen ANY other website that can match the content that I have put on on that website - what do you have on your website?
Don't even bother replying, cause my replies end here - I'm not posting anything useful, and I'm busy building 4 more engines by the end of the week.
Have a good week...
-Ted
10-13-03, 06:07 PM
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back on topic...
you can put a 255 on an 8" wheel if its within the recomend wheel width. My tires are 255/45 but if i went to a 255/40, it says that a 8" wheel is too narrow.
you can put a 255 on an 8" wheel if its within the recomend wheel width. My tires are 255/45 but if i went to a 255/40, it says that a 8" wheel is too narrow.
10-13-03, 09:21 PM
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well, lets just say i'm sick of the whimpy look and want something that looks mean with grip. i just like alot o' meat on my feet...
right now the 205's can't hold ****. i slide everywhere when i launch and it pisses me off...
right now the 205's can't hold ****. i slide everywhere when i launch and it pisses me off...
10-13-03, 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by RETed
That pretty much says it all. If you don't understand what I mean, you have no clue...
You can drop the personal insults, it's getting you no where and making you look stupid.
That pretty much says it all. If you don't understand what I mean, you have no clue...
You can drop the personal insults, it's getting you no where and making you look stupid.
Do I need to repost your first post as an example of what you are complaining about now?
We run 225/245 F/R stagger ON THE RACE TRACK. It worked fine. I would NEVER run 225/275 F/R on the race track - that's just plain stupid. Why don't you go in the race section and post what you just told me - i bet you'd get laughed at real quick. Your statement above just backs up what I already know...
What does 400hp mean to me? Nothing. I know a lot of other "ignorant" people making the same if not more power than 400. It's called a "bigger budget". I don't build my car to post dyno numbers; I build my car for my own personal enjoyment. If you can't understand that, then stop pestering me.
Why does it always come down to a resume contest? It just shows how small you *thing* is. I don't care how much power you make; I care about how my car feels when I drive it. That's how all FC owners should feel. This I-make-more-power-than-you bullshit has got to stop - I would think you're smart enough to figure out why.
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Haven't you seen the recent Akina thread that got deleted?
I attecked your statement not your personal - can we keep it this way? I get tired of people like you trying to insult me with stupid ****. It really gets tiring, especially with the big fiasco with the Akina thread. I hear good things about you, but all I see is replies with crap being thrown at me.
Is this some jealousy thing? My FC3S Pro site speaks for itself. I have no seen ANY other website that can match the content that I have put on on that website - what do you have on your website?
Don't even bother replying, cause my replies end here - I'm not posting anything useful, and I'm busy building 4 more engines by the end of the week.
Have a good week...
-Ted
Have a good week...
-Ted
10-13-03, 11:41 PM
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Fatty rears would look cool I agree, but most FCs understeer a lot already I don't see how you can get even close to a balanced handling car with stagger like that. I am going to run 245-40-18 all around with mad camber in front and I will probabily understeer a little still.
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