ya, I know , if you note in my post i said 190 -210 I should have added depending on whether its a 87/88 or 89/90. Someone correct me if I my numbers are wrong. Oh and I do plan to mod my car just that there is not a "my" car yet Anyone want to sell an 87/88 turbo in the northwest?

oops, i'm not sure what you meant, full exhaust vs catback? Too bad they have emissions testing here

 

Yeah where ever you hear that from your crazy. Or your cars suspension is about 3 days from going through the hood...They are some of the best handling cars. Go watch some video option.....Alot more 240's than any other car. PERIOD (besides maybe the ae86)...I dont think they stack up with a 7 speed for speed, and the 7 handles very well too. If I didnt want a 7 I'd have a 240....Its not that expensive to build if you know where to go..A friend bought his 240 for 1200 and a redtop sr20 for 1700 (good deal). They are very very nice IMO.

 

Really? There's one (1990) local to me w/ a blown motor for 1,000 bucks, I've never driven one before, how much do those cars weigh? Whats the lightest model? The hatch or coupe or what? Which year is the lightest? I really want something that handles as good as the rx7, with the swap 200hp would be nice. I wonder if they can be reliable...hrmm...guess I should jump on the 240 websites...

 

If you're going to do the swap and know your stuff the pre-dohc coupes are the lightest, so 90' and earlier. On these models the ps and ac lines don't line up but you can rewire to fit. I believe they weigh around 2800? maybe a little more?

www.zilvia.net and www.240sx.org are good resources, 240sx.org has a bunch of group buys too.

 

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I know someone with a 91 240 SX. As far as the claim of good handling goes, I don't really know about that one. There are 2 sports cars I have driven that I thought had awful, sloppy handling. One was the 240, the other was my friends 87' Supra Turbo. The Supra feels like a boat, even after he lowered the thing the steering was realy slack and it felt like I was riding on air. The 240 wasn't too far off from that, loose steering and just feels like you are riding on air. I know some people prefer that feeling, that's usually why they buy Grand Marquis'. So maybe you have driven a 240 that handled well, but the one I drove felt like ****. And I brought up the Supra remark because I remember someone saying earlier that Supra's handled well too. Sorry, not anywhere near as good of handling as my FC. If they were as good, I might have considered getting one.

 

My friend tuboed his KA on his '91 240. Its definitely fast, but not sure on handling. From what I can tell it has decent handling, but I have never driven, much less at the limit.

 

Someone mentioned that when you buy a 240 vs. a 7 you have to choose between drift and grip. Which is which? I heard that 7's make awesome drift cars. True? Which is which and why?

 

earlier supra's handled well? hah thats a joke!...i had an 82 supra celica (or vice versa) which weighed pretty much to my guess about 2 tons...and i had to drive that thing everyday last summer with no a/c and no ps...that sucked ***...but it was pretty fun. never drove it hard cuz i fear it would blow if i go over 5k lol.....

 

Well i think you got it backwards. The 7's seem to be more of gripper cars then the 240sx. The 240sx is all about the drift. My buddy who owns the FC REX says that his car will either spin out or grip and keep going. The 240sx kinda handles like a FWD car sometimes for some reason. The FD seems more of a slider but still cant drift like the 240's or AE86's IMHO . I have no idea why the cars handle so differently, both are near 50/50 balance with LSD. Anyone wanna explain?

 

The 89 and 90 240 used the KA24E motor(SOHC) and the 91-98 used the KA24DE motor. Actually you can get pretty good power out of the KA motor running all motor, esp. with the SOHC KA. The 240 is an excellent handler, pulling .88-.89g's stock and for me, not having a "boat like" feeling at all. The handling limit was higher on my 240 but my FC's chassis does feel a bit tighter. My 240 seemed to be more of a gripper then anythng else. Stock (thanks to the suspension) it was easy to drift but after modding the suspension a bit and stiffening up the body it griped very hard. Drifting it was very hard, you'd have to really push past the limit and once it did break it would break very quickly and would be very difficult to catch again. But mostly I attribute the cars handling to the suspension mods. The 240 and NA FC are really really similar and whether it gives off more of a drift or grip feel id say is completly in the control of how the suspension is set up.
And as far as people naming all these low prices for the SR motor etc. lets see you guys come up with ANY sr motor, complete (uncut wiring harness, ecu, coil packs, starter) for under 2000. Next, even that complete motor comes with no I/C or downpipe. So you also need to pick those up. Its really a shame seeing it turned into a trend now by SCC and Super Street.

 

My bro has a 180sx. Im surprised none of you have meantioned the old CA18DET engine for swappin in...especially since probably 90% of you love revving your car since rotaries have a high redline as do the CA18's.

 

On the 240's you can both under and over steer. Thats not good if you like driving, and staying in control

 

You can also swap a RB26DETT into the 240sx.

 

Yeah, like an FC doesn't do that?

If a car is capable of over & understeer depending on conditions, that means it's very well balanced. It's a wonderful thing for people who are capable of keeping a car in control.

For those of you questioning the handling of the 240SX, you need to read the reviews written about the car when it came out. The ONLY complaint the auto journalism industry had about the car was it's power. They didn't feel that the car was slow, just that the suspension could easily handle more power.

When the next 240 was released, it didn't receive nearly as many accolades. It was reffered to as a 'secretaries car' and many quipped 'The previous car needed only one change - more power. With the new 240, Nissan changed everything except the power."

 

how about a 180SX with 13B

http://rx7.cyberosity.com/180sx/

 

I'm sorry but I have to correct this mistake...the engine in the 89-90 240sx is a KA24E not a KA24D I used to own a 240sx and know alot about them...The 95 - 98 have a KA24DE and the ones in japan have a semi-modded SR20DET thats pushing 247hp.

Stock 89-90 = 140 hp
Stock 91-98 = 155 hp
Stock 99-UP = 247 hp

 

My 200sx SE-R will take a stock 240 from my experience, so an N/A RX-7 shouldn't have any problems. Although you never know what someone has under the hood.

 

I've Driven both and the rx7 handles better i think

 

how much power does a stock n/a 7 have? How much extra would ya get from a mild street port + full exhaust?

 

a stock 90 GXL has 160bhp i think correct me if im wrong

 

The '91 240SX (first year with the KA24DE) had a different cam then the following years. On paper it made the same power, but you can totally feel it in the car. Much broader powerband. In the home market the RX-7 and the 180SX/Silvia were competitors for the same marketshare. Each has their good points and bad points. Too bad we didn't get the "proper" version of the 240SX over here. I think I'd know what I'd be driving.

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I am not crazy or any **** like that, I've driven numerous 240's and RX7's, and the 240s handle like a POS car. Unless it is highly modded, it's going to be a POS car that handles like ****

 

when I lived in Okinawa once of best friends ( japanese guy ) had a black Slilvia K he had done some basic mod to and it was a fastish car. I mean most of other freinds all had AE86's or startlet turbos so he was faster than them. but I would crush him in the zero - yon even with him running 1 bar and im only running .8 bar.

it was even better when we would take the expressway to the north end of the island

he could never hang with my 7 or ae86 in the twisties.

man but his gf sure was cool. about 10 of us went on a camping trip to ike jima and they have this really twisty road going up hill there. his car was in the shop and she took her car plusar gtri and she left all us behind going up the hill. when we got to the top he was all tring to look clam and releax but his face was all white and sweating. she told us later they had a fight before she started up the hill.

 

I think the FC and S13 are almost exactly matched up in most catagorey's.