13b-re in T2, what flywheel should I use?
02-16-03, 08:59 AM
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13b-re in T2, what flywheel should I use?
I have searched the forum about this, but I found some different answers...so can someone who has done this swap tell me what flywheel to use, I want the cheapest possible!
02-17-03, 11:41 AM
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you pick the flywheel for the tranny you are using, for example if you are running a non turbo tranny use a non turbo flywheel and cltuch. as long as you leave the counter wieght on the motor you can use any flywheel
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02-17-03, 02:54 PM
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My understanding is that you cannot run say a stock S5 TII flywheel on a S4 because the internal counterweight on the flywhee is different and does not match the rotors. You can use a S6 on a S5. (a guy on teamfc3s.org is doing it)
A light steel aftermarket flywheel is typically 18lbs and $400. A S6 flywheel is 19lbs and $30 used!
A light steel aftermarket flywheel is typically 18lbs and $400. A S6 flywheel is 19lbs and $30 used!
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02-18-03, 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by j9fd3s
you pick the flywheel for the tranny you are using, for example if you are running a non turbo tranny use a non turbo flywheel and cltuch. as long as you leave the counter wieght on the motor you can use any flywheel
mike
you pick the flywheel for the tranny you are using, for example if you are running a non turbo tranny use a non turbo flywheel and cltuch. as long as you leave the counter wieght on the motor you can use any flywheel
mike
Does a TII clutch fit the S6 flywheel?
And last, does the S6-flywheel balance the engine correct?
(Im using the TII tranny)
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Good question, im wondering the same thing, and didnt really want to drop an extra grand on a clutch/flywheel setup.
I mean really, if it gets THAT bad couldnt one use a front TII counterweight so a TII flywheel would work? Its either that or a S6 stock flywheel.
I mean really, if it gets THAT bad couldnt one use a front TII counterweight so a TII flywheel would work? Its either that or a S6 stock flywheel.
02-25-03, 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by TonyTurboII
Good question, im wondering the same thing, and didnt really want to drop an extra grand on a clutch/flywheel setup.
I mean really, if it gets THAT bad couldnt one use a front TII counterweight so a TII flywheel would work? Its either that or a S6 stock flywheel.
Good question, im wondering the same thing, and didnt really want to drop an extra grand on a clutch/flywheel setup.
I mean really, if it gets THAT bad couldnt one use a front TII counterweight so a TII flywheel would work? Its either that or a S6 stock flywheel.
I get my new engine(13b-re) tomorrow...
I dont think you can mount the front TII counterweight with the TII flywheel...correct me if Im wrong!
Someone who has done this swap must know what flywheel to use, please help us!!!
02-25-03, 01:05 PM
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Im just starting the swap. Im getting ready to order the motor (waiting for the seller to get some), and have the mounts. Ive almost got a front mount. Got a Microtech ECU on the way to control it. Im going to use a S5 turbo to keep it simple.
I was asking about the flywheel, cause I dont see why it couldnt be used. Remove front cover, remove -RE counterbalance, install TII counterbalance, reassemble. Im going to call some people today and get this figured out once and for all. I think its safe to assume the -RE and the -REW automatic transmission counterbalance are the same. So it should just be a matter of talking to someone whos done the FD auto to manual tranny swap.
I was asking about the flywheel, cause I dont see why it couldnt be used. Remove front cover, remove -RE counterbalance, install TII counterbalance, reassemble. Im going to call some people today and get this figured out once and for all. I think its safe to assume the -RE and the -REW automatic transmission counterbalance are the same. So it should just be a matter of talking to someone whos done the FD auto to manual tranny swap.
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Originally posted by TonyTurboII
Im just starting the swap. Im getting ready to order the motor (waiting for the seller to get some), and have the mounts. Ive almost got a front mount. Got a Microtech ECU on the way to control it. Im going to use a S5 turbo to keep it simple.
I was asking about the flywheel, cause I dont see why it couldnt be used. Remove front cover, remove -RE counterbalance, install TII counterbalance, reassemble. Im going to call some people today and get this figured out once and for all. I think its safe to assume the -RE and the -REW automatic transmission counterbalance are the same. So it should just be a matter of talking to someone whos done the FD auto to manual tranny swap.
Im just starting the swap. Im getting ready to order the motor (waiting for the seller to get some), and have the mounts. Ive almost got a front mount. Got a Microtech ECU on the way to control it. Im going to use a S5 turbo to keep it simple.
I was asking about the flywheel, cause I dont see why it couldnt be used. Remove front cover, remove -RE counterbalance, install TII counterbalance, reassemble. Im going to call some people today and get this figured out once and for all. I think its safe to assume the -RE and the -REW automatic transmission counterbalance are the same. So it should just be a matter of talking to someone whos done the FD auto to manual tranny swap.
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02-26-03, 11:59 AM
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Anxiously watching this thread as I'm planning the same swap.
I'm actually ending up w/ 2 RE motors, so if anyone has yet to buy one, I'll be selling the extra. Have it in my garage now, so can ship immediately. PM me if interested.
Also, is the key to this swap to use the flywheel from the tranny you're swapping into? in other words, I am not swapping to a TII tranny yet, so I want to use the existing flywheel on my 5 speed?
Seems to be a lot of confusion around this RE swap -- I guess because it hasn't been done a lot yet. Eagerly awaiting all of those in progress!
I'm actually ending up w/ 2 RE motors, so if anyone has yet to buy one, I'll be selling the extra. Have it in my garage now, so can ship immediately. PM me if interested.
Also, is the key to this swap to use the flywheel from the tranny you're swapping into? in other words, I am not swapping to a TII tranny yet, so I want to use the existing flywheel on my 5 speed?
Seems to be a lot of confusion around this RE swap -- I guess because it hasn't been done a lot yet. Eagerly awaiting all of those in progress!
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Originally posted by Trav
Also, is the key to this swap to use the flywheel from the tranny you're swapping into? in other words, I am not swapping to a TII tranny yet, so I want to use the existing flywheel on my 5 speed?
Also, is the key to this swap to use the flywheel from the tranny you're swapping into? in other words, I am not swapping to a TII tranny yet, so I want to use the existing flywheel on my 5 speed?
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I talked to Seth, (CYM FC3S) and hes running a S5 TII flywheel. Thats it. Youd need to put the TII tranny in. The N/A clutch would get destroyed pretty quick anyway.
02-26-03, 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by TonyTurboII
I talked to Seth, (CYM FC3S) and hes running a S5 TII flywheel. Thats it. Youd need to put the TII tranny in. The N/A clutch would get destroyed pretty quick anyway.
I talked to Seth, (CYM FC3S) and hes running a S5 TII flywheel. Thats it. Youd need to put the TII tranny in. The N/A clutch would get destroyed pretty quick anyway.
02-27-03, 01:27 PM
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Use an aftermarket lightened flywheel with the supplied Cosmo counterweight.  The Cosmo motor should've come with a counterweight (and possible flexplate) - the Cosmos are all auto trans, so it should come with a countweight.  Don't try to get cheap with the swap; it'll bite you in the ***.  You spent all the time and money for this - why get cheap now?  The lightened flywheel boost performance significantly.
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02-27-03, 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by RETed
Use an aftermarket lightened flywheel with the supplied Cosmo counterweight.  The Cosmo motor should've come with a counterweight (and possible flexplate) - the Cosmos are all auto trans, so it should come with a countweight.  Don't try to get cheap with the swap; it'll bite you in the ***.  You spent all the time and money for this - why get cheap now?  The lightened flywheel boost performance significantly.
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Use an aftermarket lightened flywheel with the supplied Cosmo counterweight.  The Cosmo motor should've come with a counterweight (and possible flexplate) - the Cosmos are all auto trans, so it should come with a countweight.  Don't try to get cheap with the swap; it'll bite you in the ***.  You spent all the time and money for this - why get cheap now?  The lightened flywheel boost performance significantly.
-Ted
02-27-03, 01:41 PM
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There was one coming out from Down Under for decent, but it requires you to transfer the ring gear off your stock one.  Any competent machine shop should be able to do this for you...
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02-27-03, 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Wankelman
Ok!
So the S5 TII flywheel mounts to the Cosmo counterweight with 6 bolts, am I right then???
Ok!
So the S5 TII flywheel mounts to the Cosmo counterweight with 6 bolts, am I right then???
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Originally posted by RETed
There was one coming out from Down Under for decent, but it requires you to transfer the ring gear off your stock one.  Any competent machine shop should be able to do this for you...
-Ted
There was one coming out from Down Under for decent, but it requires you to transfer the ring gear off your stock one.  Any competent machine shop should be able to do this for you...
-Ted
Get a TII flywheel (lightweight) and use the Cosmo counterweight... or use a S5 TII flywheel... or if you use the NA tranny (NOT recommended!!!) use the S5 NA flywheel.
Brad
