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13b-re or 20b-re in a 87 n/a 13b now.

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Old 08-25-04 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Parastie
The 13BT (which is the model in Turbo2 cars) can handle a lot of boost if the engine has been built properly, there are guys who run 20+psi on that engine and get lots of HP out of it.


wat turbo are they using?
Any number of aftermarket turbos...
Garrett
Mitsubishi
They all can produce power at over 20+psi.

If you have no clue what I'm saying, you can't afford it.


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Old 08-26-04 | 08:35 AM
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im not talkin about a turbo. im talkin bout the motor. i wnna buy a new one over a rebuilt one if possible. unless these guys do superb work on teh rebuilds.
Old 08-26-04 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Half this topic hurts my brain. All this information is easily available by searching the 2nd gen forum on the engine you are curious about. There is also a dedicated 20B forum.
Oh Aaron, why must you say what I'm thinking . I think we have to institute a "Minimum search requirement" before people are allowed to start new threads.
Old 08-26-04 | 10:23 AM
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im kind of a noob to rx7's also, ive had mine for a little less than a month, and i am curious wether i should go with a 13b single turbo with new rotor housings, upgraded apex seals with heavy duty springs, competition oil seal springs, new oil pump and chain, high pressure oil regulator, and improved design high flow main bearings with a single turbo or a twin. thanx
Old 08-26-04 | 10:27 AM
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my bad that doesnt really make sense...what i want to kno is if i should have a single turbo or a twin turbo, i kno a twin turbo mean be more power but im not sure if the car could handle it or whatever
Old 08-26-04 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbadbenny3
i kno a twin turbo mean be more power but im not sure if the car could handle it or whatever
Yeah, you're confused.


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Old 08-26-04 | 07:54 PM
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Wow, there are a lot of really stupid people on these forums...

We need a seperate "Things I feel like asking about I can never accomplish or afford to have built for me" forum...
Old 08-26-04 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbadbenny3
im kind of a noob to rx7's also, ive had mine for a little less than a month, and i am curious wether i should go with a 13b single turbo with new rotor housings, upgraded apex seals with heavy duty springs, competition oil seal springs, new oil pump and chain, high pressure oil regulator, and improved design high flow main bearings with a single turbo or a twin. thanx
OK, here is the real deal... Don't specify which parts you want on your engine based on what you read on the internet. Just have a GOOD rotary mechanic build the engine after you discuss your goals and requirements with him. It doesn't matter how he rebuilds it, or which parts he uses, just as long as the engine does what you want. Your job is to own the car and drive it. Leave the maintenance up to the mechanic.

Originally Posted by bigbadbenny3
my bad that doesnt really make sense...what i want to kno is if i should have a single turbo or a twin turbo, i kno a twin turbo mean be more power but im not sure if the car could handle it or whatever
With respect to inline rotary engines and inline piston engines: Twin turbos are usually only used to spool up the turbos faster. In general, the larger the turbo, the slower it spools up to create boost due to its increased diameter and mass. Therefore, two 20lb/min turbos will generally spool up faster than one 40lb/min turbo, even though they both have the same flow rate and create the same horsepower. The smaller turbos may be sequenced to further decrese the spool time by allowing one to receive all (or the majority of) the inital exhaust gasses while the secondary turbo receives exhaust gasses later on in the power band.

With respect to V and horizontally-opposed piston engines: In addition to the above, twin turbos are usually used because the two banks of cylinders are very far apart. A large amount of piping would be required for both exhausts to feed into a single turbo, which would reduce the force of the exhaust gas on the turbine, therefore reducing the spooling of the turbo. With a twin turbo arrangement, one turbo is fed from each bank, reducing the amount of exhaust piping, increasing the torque on the turbine, which allows for much better spooling.

Originally Posted by digitalsolo
We need a seperate "Things I feel like asking about I can never accomplish or afford to have built for me" forum...
It's called the "20B Forum", lol.
https://www.rx7club.com/20b-forum-95/

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Old 08-27-04 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
It's called the "20B Forum", lol.
https://www.rx7club.com/forumdisplay.php?f=95
LMAO, good point.
Old 08-27-04 | 03:09 PM
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ok u dont kno how much money we got man. and i can do a motor swap, just havnt on a mazda yet. we just dont kno what kinda upgrades r nessisary or over the top for the applications were workin with, just cuz u sit on here all the time and read what the guys know what they r talkin about and then repeat it doesnt mean ur a cool guy all of a sudden. if u dont have any helpful info dont reply, as far as searchin u guys dont listen, i type in 13bt and i get everything cept what im lookin for, and if i do find what im lookin for it has someone else being an a hole and sayin to do a search.
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Originally Posted by dysfan
ok u dont kno how much money we got man. and i can do a motor swap, just havnt on a mazda yet. we just dont kno what kinda upgrades r nessisary or over the top for the applications were workin with, just cuz u sit on here all the time and read what the guys know what they r talkin about and then repeat it doesnt mean ur a cool guy all of a sudden. if u dont have any helpful info dont reply, as far as searchin u guys dont listen, i type in 13bt and i get everything cept what im lookin for, and if i do find what im lookin for it has someone else being an a hole and sayin to do a search.
You don't understand.
You can have the car.
You can have the money.
You don't have the resources.
Why do I know this?
Cause you type like a 3rd grader.
This makes you a "kid".
Moreso, this reply makes you a "kid with an attitude".
Your money might be able to find a tuner who can tune the whole mess, but someone I think you would end up pissing the shop off first.
You might be able to get any 13B stuffed in there, but I highly doubt you can get a 20B up and running...
Good luck.


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Old 08-27-04 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dysfan
ok u dont kno how much money we got man. and i can do a motor swap, just havnt on a mazda yet. we just dont kno what kinda upgrades r nessisary or over the top for the applications were workin with, just cuz u sit on here all the time and read what the guys know what they r talkin about and then repeat it doesnt mean ur a cool guy all of a sudden. if u dont have any helpful info dont reply, as far as searchin u guys dont listen, i type in 13bt and i get everything cept what im lookin for, and if i do find what im lookin for it has someone else being an a hole and sayin to do a search.

I get a headache reading this. You couldn't have graduated from high school.
Old 08-28-04 | 05:28 PM
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yea i have a attitude w/ u guys cuz u guys act all high and mighty, im 21 i did graduate, cuz i dont type properly dont mean anything, <edited for Flaming>

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Old 08-28-04 | 07:17 PM
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No flaming dysfan... this is the only warning you will get!

And as a hint... Good or bad... American English is the language used here. If you don't use it to communicate and use simpleton slang instead, people will look down upon you and think that you are less intelligent than you might really be.
Old 08-30-04 | 02:40 PM
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yea well thanx for the warning, i just cant take this man, ive never been to a forum that was as unhelpful as this one, i dont kno why they say do a search instead of posting a link to help someone else out, it would avoid alot of conflict, or make a bunch of stickies like about which 13b to go w/ and whatnot, i searched again and found 2 forums that helped me out slightly but i dont know all these abrieviations such as fd, and s4 or s5, like are they engines, or a type of rx-7 model over in japan or what? plus i dont kno where to find one.
Old 08-30-04 | 02:54 PM
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I don't really mind what you know, We are here to answer questions I suppose. I am 16 I own a 1988 Rx7 10th anniversary. I don't really post questions much because I try to use the search option as much as possible. There's plenty of questions answered on these forums. A fc is the 86-91 rx7 (92 was in japan) fd is 93-95. S4 86-88, S5 89-91. To find a car look in the local paper, www.autotrader.com www.ebay.com or pick up a autoclassifieds.

Anyway why are you talking bout dropping in a new motor already when you don't seem to know much. My suggestion is read up as much as possible from www.1300cc.com www.fc3spro.com teamfc3s.org www.fc3s.org and forums.
Old 08-30-04 | 03:10 PM
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I reccomend you read the FAQ at the top of the page.

It has the meanings for all of the abreviations and some more great sites to read as well.
Old 08-30-04 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dysfan
yea well thanx for the warning, i just cant take this man, ive never been to a forum that was as unhelpful as this one, i dont kno why they say do a search instead of posting a link to help someone else out, it would avoid alot of conflict, or make a bunch of stickies like about which 13b to go w/ and whatnot, i searched again and found 2 forums that helped me out slightly but i dont know all these abrieviations such as fd, and s4 or s5, like are they engines, or a type of rx-7 model over in japan or what? plus i dont kno where to find one.
Please, don't blame us for your ignorance.
Do you go yelling at your teachers when you can't understand something?
What do your teachers tell you to do when you don't?
Most will try to help, but rarely would one give you the unadulterated answer in a straight-forward manner.
A lot will tell you to "do your homework" and do some research.
It's the same when someone tells you to search.
Any and all information is given voluntarily.
Don't expect all answers to fall in your lap.
Why don't you first start to type properly by using capital letters and proper puntuation and sentence structure?
Why do we owe you such help?
Answer? We don't.


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Old 08-30-04 | 09:34 PM
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I think this thread is about done
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