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SleeperZzZ 08-09-03 12:01 AM

Ive seen the car run, and i wasnt at the track, but i would belive it. its funny how every1 is quick to jump on sum1s ass, If you dont belive em, tell em, but dont be a 13 year old about it. Im 16 and i feel like i have more respect than some of you

mazdaspeed7 08-09-03 12:11 AM


Originally posted by SleeperZzZ
Im 16

Exactly.

cbrock 08-09-03 12:22 AM

Eitherway, to make it go that fast, it's a shell that just happens to look like an RX7. If you're going to go all out like that, just make it a full race car and build up that motor right. Nothing looks dumber than a gutted car that runs 13's. Hell, motor swap, gutted civics run 12 and 13's all motor.

But seriously, if you actually drive that thing anywhere or at any track, at least put a cage back in it, because you'll be F'd if you ever hit anything.

SonicRaT 08-09-03 12:24 AM

it's very possible with a car under 2000lbs, though how the hell you ran only a 14.5 with a 2000lb car is beyond me...

gsracer 08-09-03 12:51 AM

If you're car is under 2k pounds, then it might be possible. I don't consider it still a car if it's under 2000 pounds. I still remain unimpressed, and I'm still very doubtful. I still want to know how you increased your trap 8mph by throwing on slicks...which should actually drop your trap.

SleeperZzZ 08-09-03 01:03 AM


Originally posted by mazdaspeed7
Exactly.

Just because im 16 does it mean i dont know what im talking about, no, so until you know me and know how i act, u dont know shit about me, and you have no room to talk

SonicRaT 08-09-03 01:05 AM


Originally posted by SleeperZzZ
Just because im 16 does it mean i dont know what im talking about, no, so until you know me and know how i act, u dont know shit about me, and you have no room to talk
Just as you have no room to assume what he meant by exactly either... :rolleyes:

SleeperZzZ 08-09-03 01:12 AM

true sonic rat, but when he quotes me saying "im 16" what else would i get out of it, Well thanks for pointing that out in a civil manor

mazdaspeed7 08-09-03 01:15 AM


Originally posted by SleeperZzZ
Just because im 16 does it mean i dont know what im talking about, no, so until you know me and know how i act, u dont know shit about me, and you have no room to talk

With the company you keep, youre not starting out on on the right foot with me...

SleeperZzZ 08-09-03 01:19 AM

and you mean what by that?

j200pruf 08-09-03 01:57 AM

If I remember from a while ago, it was found that this dude was full of shit.
But if its true then you should have NO problem getting a 13 second run on video then would you?
And I sense that there will be a reply that you just don't feel like taking video.

Angel Guard Racing Team 08-09-03 02:28 AM

I don't even know where or how to start... :scratch:

Angel Guard Racing Team 08-09-03 02:30 AM

I'll just wait for the video (If his club does not own the rights to it...)

1987RX7guy 08-09-03 02:31 AM


Originally posted by SleeperZzZ
Just because im 16 does it mean i dont know what im talking about, no, so until you know me and know how i act, u dont know shit about me, and you have no room to talk

How you act and who you are means little. Unless you have a lot of experience or something along those lines you don't know much.

J-Rat 08-09-03 02:46 AM

The fountain of wisdom speaks.

I think at this point in the thread, we either get some proof of the alleged 13 sec N/A. Or we just give this thread the big old LOCK. Cause its going nowhere fast... (no pun intended)

Jarrett

GLHS 08-09-03 07:38 AM


Originally posted by mazdaspeed7
With the company you keep, youre not starting out on on the right foot with me...
I know who you're talking about, and I could give a rats ass if any of you people out there see proof or not I don't care...you people need better moderators around here...


I was just sharing my gains.. 98% of you should be banned.


if you guys need to lick my balls to be assured I have some balls, or they really exsist come on over. and lick away...

Ryde _Or_Die 08-09-03 09:41 AM

I wasn't there either, but I will say I believe it. He was in the 14s without slicks and shitty tires. Maybe when I get my car back I'll go out there and see if I can borrow a vid. camera.

bejbis 08-09-03 11:28 AM


Originally posted by GLHS
if you guys need to lick my balls to be assured I have some balls, or they really exsist come on over. and lick away...
:withstupi

RarestRX 08-09-03 11:54 AM

Yo,


Here is how GTUsPA got a 13.51 @ 107:

Ok Motor done by Mazdatrix 3 seasons ago (motor out of 89 GTUs), ported and balanced, lightweight rotors, rotors where side cut, counter weights where changed front and rear, eccentric shaft tapered & polished, better oil pump and pressure valve, 4 mm carbon apex seals, Increased injector size 720/1600, upgraded fuel pump, bearings upgraded along with other minor goodies.

RB header/duals, 4 puck, racing pressure plate, lightweight flywheel, trans modified, upgrade Turbo II posi rear w/430 gears drag radials along with Jet VForce fuel/timing recal and ECU mods done by Jet.

Car's stripped, raced only not street legal.

Check this thread out too:

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...threadid=15582

You can see why people are having a hard time believing you. Your trap speed is 5MPH less than his, yet you're only .06 seconds slower.

If you've done more engine mods than you've listed, if it's not against Club Security to list them, you should tell us what you've done.

The way it sounds now, it's like you just took an S4 NA, stripped it, threw some slicks on it, put a cone intake a ran a 13.57.

Can you see why people don't believe you?

Not to mention when proof is rightfully asked for you are basically telling people to "lick your balls"?

C'mon now.

Kevin
1989 GTUs "The voice of reason."

Roy James 08-09-03 12:04 PM


Originally posted by RarestRX

The way it sounds now, it's like you just took an S4 NA, stripped it, threw some slicks on it, put a cone intake a ran a 13.57.

Can you see why people don't believe you?

Not to mention when proof is rightfully asked for you are basically telling people to "lick your balls"?

C'mon now.

Kevin
1989 GTUs "The voice of reason."

A-motherfucking-men!! This is what im talking about, its not that we dont want to beleive that you ran a 13 second 1/4mi, its just that when we ask we get a big "F off" of sorts.

RarestRX 08-09-03 12:08 PM

Yo,


Originally posted by Roy James
This is what im talking about, its not that we dont want to beleive that you ran a 13 second 1/4mi, its just that when we ask we get a big "F off" of sorts.
Exactly.

Kevin
1989 GTUs "I want to believe..."

cbrock 08-09-03 01:27 PM

My stock turbo 10th just went 9.90's @ 154 on street tires :D

Maybe it'll go in the 8's with some slicks and some speed holes.


j200pruf 08-09-03 02:07 PM

I would just like to see a 13.5 run on an N/A that would be a kewl video, why not just atke one.

GLHS 08-09-03 05:24 PM

we will make a video...


good thing I lied and didn't say I really ran 13.1 @ 102

BDoty311 08-09-03 05:43 PM


good thing I lied and didn't say I really ran 13.1 @ 102
Well your half right, you did lie but you didnt run a 13.1 or a 13.5. Quit making shit up, its not helping.

gsracer 08-09-03 06:14 PM

ban.

Roy James 08-09-03 06:15 PM


Originally posted by GLHS
we will make a video...


good thing I lied and didn't say I really ran 13.1 @ 102

ok this is some serious BS

Liquid Anarchy 08-09-03 06:18 PM

http://www.postinger.com/pub/Images/...ics/banhim.jpg

pp13bnos 08-09-03 07:05 PM

Heres a dyno graph of my stock port/carbed 12a with a automatic. Still using the stock exhuast too. I did adjust the timing, put some 1600cc primarys in it, and did some weight reduction.https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...postid=1867725 I'll post some time sheets tonight.

BTW: I'm also using a secret oil, that only Rob@Pineapple makes. Along with my B16EGV spark plugs....;)

CJ

mazdaspeed7 08-09-03 07:25 PM

Can you tell me what model that PP 12A came in stock? ;)

Josepi 08-09-03 08:35 PM


Originally posted by mazdaspeed7
Can you tell me what model that PP 12A came in stock? ;)
The better question would be, what carbed motor uses injectors?

;)

bingoboy 08-09-03 08:44 PM

please continue guys, this stuff is entertaining :D

J-Rat 08-09-03 10:11 PM

I dunno, I think this has gone on long enough..

88IntegraLS 08-09-03 10:15 PM

But really, this forum is so dull sometimes. No one really does anything much here. We need the BS to liven up this place.

Roy James 08-09-03 11:08 PM

Yeah those 1600CC injectors on the carb really helped the HP numbers along with the weightreduction. I once took my car down to the bare frame (a task in itself) and with a stock motor on stock EFI after i put my holley carb on the exhaust (makes kinda like a turbo effect) it did 660HP on the dyno, before the weight reduction. After the weight reduction its my clubs secret but ill tell you its in the four digits. LMFAO...

razorback 08-09-03 11:21 PM

its not that hard to post time slips. and it would put this debate to an end.

Josepi 08-10-03 12:16 AM


Originally posted by razorback
its not that hard to post time slips. and it would put this debate to an end.
www.google.com

images

"time slip"

:)

Josepi 08-10-03 12:22 AM

Sooo uh yea...

I ran a 11.394@117 on stock ports using a tornado air intake.

version13 08-10-03 01:22 AM

Haha, I was going to PM this guy to tell him to do just that. Kinda pointless, the timeslip scan.

jacobcartmill 08-10-03 03:06 AM


Originally posted by pp13bnos
Heres a dyno graph of my stock port/carbed 12a with a automatic. Still using the stock exhuast too. I did adjust the timing, put some 1600cc primarys in it, and did some weight reduction.https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...postid=1867725 I'll post some time sheets tonight.

BTW: I'm also using a secret oil, that only Rob@Pineapple makes. Along with my B16EGV spark plugs....;)

CJ


i'd like to see a stock port 12a keep making power above 8500 rpms like this one does... must be those 1600cc fuel injectors combined with the carburator.




http://www.postinger.com/pub/Images/...ics/banhim.jpg






bingoboy 08-10-03 07:30 AM

1600cc injectors on an NA 13b? you'd have to like bore and stroke it to 3 liters for that to work. with that much fuel though...imagine the flames...you'd get some military grade flamethrowing going on.

http://www.chrisandrobin.com/images/...s/timeslip.jpg

9's on just my front 3 rotors. rotor 4 was blown! car was running the 11 apex seal mod....

Black13B 08-10-03 12:40 PM

Wow - Whoever had that .715 reaction time has a really bad reaction!

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232...band-Spork.jpg

Dyre 08-10-03 03:08 PM

If you picked up 8/10th's in the 60ft you should run nearly a second and a half faster, especially in a 13 second car.
IF the race weight (w/ driver and fuel) is right at or under 2k lbs, you might be able to make that ET on perfect pass in perfect weather, but the MPH is still too high for the HP a stock port motor makes-

zjbarra 08-10-03 03:16 PM

Maybe it was a downhill track?

zjbarra 08-10-03 04:07 PM

that will make a NA Second gen run 13's

pp13bnos 08-10-03 10:15 PM

Yeah guys, the 1600cc realy work great. Tobad you need 2 per rotor to get the thing to run right. Otherwise it just goes way to lean. Something else I forgot to tell you guys, I have a ACME missle strapped to the top of my car. And it did pass NHRA tech inspection. (something the coyote would try to catch the road runner. :D)

Seriously/please, though, post some pictures of the car, and take a video of a run with it. Then all the trash talkers (including me) will have to eat some nice crow.

Trust me....we all want to beleive that a S4/stock port, no forced induction will run in the 13s.....but we just need alot more proof, becuase none to my knowledge have done it. Please show me up. CJ

Bebesito21 08-10-03 10:31 PM

He says he's got stock lots of things. Stock clutch wouldnt hold up. Stock differential on an N/A wouldnt help unless it was a GTU diff. Ive seen the car. Its stripped but it isnt a stock port. Its a street port. I heard it, he admitted to it. Apex Gt exhaust. Prolly has headers. Might be spraying now, i dont know. But he's full of crap.

87RXGhey7 08-11-03 12:26 AM

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