10th AE emissions exempt?
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10th AE emissions exempt?
Hey all
im not sure if it was on this forum or not but i heard that if you had a 10th AE you can get a special designation of somesort to make it emissions exempt in states that have the testing because it is an anniversary/limited car is this true? if so are there any conditions?
im not sure if it was on this forum or not but i heard that if you had a 10th AE you can get a special designation of somesort to make it emissions exempt in states that have the testing because it is an anniversary/limited car is this true? if so are there any conditions?
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b/c ive heard that since it is an anniversary/limited car that it can be exempt. sort of like classic cars. i think it may have something to do with the insurance to
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I thouhgt that only applied to antique cars. You cna gte cheaper antique ca rinsuance and rules but you cant put more than a certain amount of miles on each year. Im nto sure about the emmissions or even it the 10ae would be included.
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Originally Posted by Dave 88 A.E
I get mine exempt but thats only because in Pa you are exempt if you drive less than 5000 miles a year.
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^^ that pretty much sums it up. i mean its 15 years old. not sure the cutoff date for emmisions. and it was limited to 1500 units. so does that make it exempt?
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that 15 year old rule is not really 15 years anymore here in MA. it's now anything 1985 and older. ... poop i wonder if i can put a bolt from an 84 in my '88 and tranfer the title over declaring a total wreck of the '84 and then the rest of the car is all replacement parts to get it running again. lol that's how it is with kit cars.
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Whats this talk of a 15 year rule? I have an '86 and ive had to pass emmisions. Well i didnt actually pass unless you count that extra $40 i passed the mechanic.
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Originally Posted by I EAT CIVICS
Whats this talk of a 15 year rule? I have an '86 and ive had to pass emmisions. Well i didnt actually pass unless you count that extra $40 i passed the mechanic.
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Originally Posted by I EAT CIVICS
Whats this talk of a 15 year rule? I have an '86 and ive had to pass emmisions. Well i didnt actually pass unless you count that extra $40 i passed the mechanic.
Well, in the areas that require emissions anyways.
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Originally Posted by capn
...i heard that if you had a 10th AE you can get a special designation of somesort to make it emissions exempt in states that have the testing because it is an anniversary/limited car.
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Originally Posted by stinky277
40 dollars. damn. Out here in Jersey City, I had to pass that scumbag $50 for my inspection ticket.
Just curious but how did you initiate the bribe, heh looking for the proper wordage so that you dont get in trouble.
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Originally Posted by cafcwest
I don't know about the 10AE but limited edition/special producition cars are exempt from emissions.
Example - 2000 Cobra R. Side exhaust with no cats.
Example - 2000 Cobra R. Side exhaust with no cats.
Grow up and if you don't know something for certain, keep your mouth shut or say "I think..." saying
"I think the Cobra R was emission exempt" makes you ALOT less of a fool... when someone who actually KNOWS or has the ability to prove you wrong does so.
You're going to suck at life and your career WILL suffer if you continue to spread things as fact when you really don't know.
Ford's SVT 2000 Cobra R had short-tube headers, Bassani X-pipe, stock catalysts, and Borla mufflers, hence street legal, and **NOT** emissions exempt. Not even Ford SVT(benig a sad conglomerate of overpaid egotistical racing enthusiasts) is stupid enough to market a car that doesn't meet CARB standards...That would just be a big ******* lawsuit...
The exhaust system consists of short-tube headers leading into a Bassani X-pipe with catalytic converters, which was chosen to achieve
emissions compliance, and improved sound quality. Borla produces the unique mufflers and side-exit pipes. The side-exit routing is used to provide more clearance for the 20-gallon fuel cell in the rear.
Furthermore this sounds like some young kid who got told somethign by some other young kid and isn't mature enough to be able to think independently and realise that the entire idea of making a car emission/CARB exempt because its "low production" is obsured. Seriously, highschools need to teach indepedent, free, and abstract thinking, because if you're gullible enough to believe anything thats told to you... sigh...
Hey I bet Ron Popeil has got a ton of **** to sell you.
On the otherhand, at least you asked, so you're skepticism meter works. And yeah...im a dick, i know.
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Originally Posted by Kenteth
Lol, who told you the Cobra R was emission exempt, whoever it was obviously didn't know their cars. And I'm sorry you believed them and decided to spread mis-information...
Grow up and if you don't know something for certain, keep your mouth shut or say "I think..." saying
"I think the Cobra R was emission exempt" makes you ALOT less of a fool... when someone who actually KNOWS or has the ability to prove you wrong does so.
You're going to suck at life and your career WILL suffer if you continue to spread things as fact when you really don't know.
Ford's SVT 2000 Cobra R had short-tube headers, Bassani X-pipe, stock catalysts, and Borla mufflers, hence street legal, and **NOT** emissions exempt. Not even Ford SVT(benig a sad conglomerate of overpaid egotistical racing enthusiasts) is stupid enough to market a car that doesn't meet CARB standards...That would just be a big ******* lawsuit...
Furthermore this sounds like some young kid who got told somethign by some other young kid and isn't mature enough to be able to think independently and realise that the entire idea of making a car emission/CARB exempt because its "low production" is obsured. Seriously, highschools need to teach indepedent, free, and abstract thinking, because if you're gullible enough to believe anything thats told to you... sigh...
Hey I bet Ron Popeil has got a ton of **** to sell you.
On the otherhand, at least you asked, so you're skepticism meter works. And yeah...im a dick, i know.
Grow up and if you don't know something for certain, keep your mouth shut or say "I think..." saying
"I think the Cobra R was emission exempt" makes you ALOT less of a fool... when someone who actually KNOWS or has the ability to prove you wrong does so.
You're going to suck at life and your career WILL suffer if you continue to spread things as fact when you really don't know.
Ford's SVT 2000 Cobra R had short-tube headers, Bassani X-pipe, stock catalysts, and Borla mufflers, hence street legal, and **NOT** emissions exempt. Not even Ford SVT(benig a sad conglomerate of overpaid egotistical racing enthusiasts) is stupid enough to market a car that doesn't meet CARB standards...That would just be a big ******* lawsuit...
Furthermore this sounds like some young kid who got told somethign by some other young kid and isn't mature enough to be able to think independently and realise that the entire idea of making a car emission/CARB exempt because its "low production" is obsured. Seriously, highschools need to teach indepedent, free, and abstract thinking, because if you're gullible enough to believe anything thats told to you... sigh...
Hey I bet Ron Popeil has got a ton of **** to sell you.
On the otherhand, at least you asked, so you're skepticism meter works. And yeah...im a dick, i know.
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Originally Posted by cafcwest
Listen <edited for flaming>, I was simply adding knowledge that I remembered to the best of my ability. Not eveyone is right all the time. I apologize for mis-information.
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As others have stated, being exempt from emissions is based age set by the state.
I am not aware of any states that care about if a car is historical or not for emissions purposes.
Here in NY car must be 25 or older must pass safety but no emissions testing.
For historical plates in NY car must be 25 and have classic insurance. Not easy to get on Japanese cars, most classic insurance places only want muscle cars or exotics.
Any new car sold in the US must meet emissions, only kit cars can get away with that based on using old chassis or engines.
Some low volume new cars get away with the crash testing with temporary exemptions but its difficult.
I am not aware of any states that care about if a car is historical or not for emissions purposes.
Here in NY car must be 25 or older must pass safety but no emissions testing.
For historical plates in NY car must be 25 and have classic insurance. Not easy to get on Japanese cars, most classic insurance places only want muscle cars or exotics.
Any new car sold in the US must meet emissions, only kit cars can get away with that based on using old chassis or engines.
Some low volume new cars get away with the crash testing with temporary exemptions but its difficult.
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There is a "special Cunstruction" emissions exepmtion in PA and in most other states.... However, thats for Street Rods, Kit Cars, etc, and it still has a mileage limitation on it.....
You will never get a exemption sticker for a car that opriginally came with emissions on it, as the AE did, unless you fall under some type of mileage exemption. (like me) The Idea is that if the car came with it, you shouldn't be pulling it off.
I work for the PA DEP...... lemme tell you, it was hard enough to get the 5K mileage exemption.... originally, they were balking at the Street Rod Exemption..
Plus... even when our cars hit the "classic" age.... IF, they are considered a "Classic" car, to get "classic" car plates, you STILL have a mileage/operation restriction to keep the classic plates. This is to stop guys from running a pile of junk as a daily driver and putting classic plates on it to beat inspection/emissions requirements. Also, when the classic car tags were invented.... there were no "classic" cars that had emissions on them... I'm sure someobody would raise a bitch that since our cars came with emissions, they should still have emmssions even with a classic tag..... IE.. don't hold your breath on getting a classic tag for an RX-7.
You will never get a exemption sticker for a car that opriginally came with emissions on it, as the AE did, unless you fall under some type of mileage exemption. (like me) The Idea is that if the car came with it, you shouldn't be pulling it off.
I work for the PA DEP...... lemme tell you, it was hard enough to get the 5K mileage exemption.... originally, they were balking at the Street Rod Exemption..
Plus... even when our cars hit the "classic" age.... IF, they are considered a "Classic" car, to get "classic" car plates, you STILL have a mileage/operation restriction to keep the classic plates. This is to stop guys from running a pile of junk as a daily driver and putting classic plates on it to beat inspection/emissions requirements. Also, when the classic car tags were invented.... there were no "classic" cars that had emissions on them... I'm sure someobody would raise a bitch that since our cars came with emissions, they should still have emmssions even with a classic tag..... IE.. don't hold your breath on getting a classic tag for an RX-7.
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Since nobody from NC has replied, I'll offer up the following -
1) The 10AE is no more exempt that any other 1988 car. Whomever told you this had no clue. Go on the NC DOT site and read the regulations. They are very clear in this respect.
2) To the best of my knowledge there are no exemptions for any "special cars". Even the kit car guys have to pass emissions for the year their car was *titled*. For example in some states it is/was possible to have a Shelby Cobra replica registered as a 1965 car (even if was built using new materials). In NC the car is titled as the year the car was built (title issued and VIN assigned).
3) Depending on your county, pre-ODBII cars (1995 and earlier) may only have to pass visual. Other counties require sniffers for all cars.
4) IIRC, next year (2006) I believe that *all* counties will use ODB-II for emissions and visual/safety on all earlier cars,
-bill
1) The 10AE is no more exempt that any other 1988 car. Whomever told you this had no clue. Go on the NC DOT site and read the regulations. They are very clear in this respect.
2) To the best of my knowledge there are no exemptions for any "special cars". Even the kit car guys have to pass emissions for the year their car was *titled*. For example in some states it is/was possible to have a Shelby Cobra replica registered as a 1965 car (even if was built using new materials). In NC the car is titled as the year the car was built (title issued and VIN assigned).
3) Depending on your county, pre-ODBII cars (1995 and earlier) may only have to pass visual. Other counties require sniffers for all cars.
4) IIRC, next year (2006) I believe that *all* counties will use ODB-II for emissions and visual/safety on all earlier cars,
-bill
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Originally Posted by YearsOfDecay
The Idea is that if the car came with it, you shouldn't be pulling it off.