***UPDATE*** Headlight kit Prototype pic.
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***UPDATE*** Headlight kit Prototype pic.
Well guys heres what the kit will basically look like. Im running into a couple little prolbems that I dont think will turn out to be a big prolbem.
I have a question I would like to hear your input on. As of right now it looks like you will have to trim some plastic off of your top headlight bezel to enable to have the light to have the proper clearance to allow the light assembly to retract. Is this going to be a prolbem if you guys were to buy this kit?
Thats all for now, ill have more updates as they come.
I have a question I would like to hear your input on. As of right now it looks like you will have to trim some plastic off of your top headlight bezel to enable to have the light to have the proper clearance to allow the light assembly to retract. Is this going to be a prolbem if you guys were to buy this kit?
Thats all for now, ill have more updates as they come.
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where do you have to trim???
How's the FTP work? are they low enough still to flash through?
Looks very nice, have you figured price yet?
How's the FTP work? are they low enough still to flash through?
Looks very nice, have you figured price yet?
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Originally posted by Icemark
where do you have to trim???
How's the FTP work? are they low enough still to flash through?
Looks very nice, have you figured price yet?
where do you have to trim???
How's the FTP work? are they low enough still to flash through?
Looks very nice, have you figured price yet?
As of right now the FTP will function as before.
I had quoted a price of $400 earlier but as of right now its hard to say.
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What of the stock trim do you still use? I see you have the top(that is trimmed right?), the Inner side piece, and no outter, or bottom...is this how the will look at all times? Are you making some kind of custom trim to surround the entire light?
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Originally posted by my_jdm_rx7
What of the stock trim do you still use? I see you have the top(that is trimmed right?), the Inner side piece, and no outter, or bottom...is this how the will look at all times? Are you making some kind of custom trim to surround the entire light?
What of the stock trim do you still use? I see you have the top(that is trimmed right?), the Inner side piece, and no outter, or bottom...is this how the will look at all times? Are you making some kind of custom trim to surround the entire light?
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Originally posted by Rxmfn7
Whats the advantage to this, beside looking cool? (not being a smartass, serious question...)
Whats the advantage to this, beside looking cool? (not being a smartass, serious question...)
And the obvious, it looks cool as you stated.
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Originally posted by ERAUMAZDA
eagle eye....like on the BMW's a ring of right around the other edges of the len
eagle eye....like on the BMW's a ring of right around the other edges of the len
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Originally posted by 1FastT2
Well to be honest with you im really hoping to get much better lighting from this setup.
Well to be honest with you im really hoping to get much better lighting from this setup.
Perhaps you can change headlight retractor motors to smaller lighter ones, with less travel distance or something? I understand the motors themselves are what eats up all the weight..
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I was working on a similar kit a couple of years ago and here are is some insight of the problems I ran into that stopped me from developing my kit:
Because of the 2nd gen headlight FTP mechanism, it is very difficult to design a replacement part to limit the up and down travel of the lights. With my design I came close but I was worried about the longevity of the parts and decided to scrap the "kit" idea rather than to risk selling "junk". Also, since the headlight motors are towards the outside of the headlight lids the lights will "bounce" while you drive the car if the lights are only supported by the retractor arm.
The FTP mechanism keeps the headlight vertical while the headlights are retracted. This is how the FTP works by allowing the headlights to shine directly through the FTP lens. With a kit like the one you are making the FTP will not work the same as "stock" unless you figure out a way to keep the headlight facing forward when the headlights are retracted.
Some good news:
I looked into California's Vehicle Codes to determine if the kit would be "street legal" and looks like as long as you use DOT (department of transportation) approved lights the kit should be "street legal" the only thing I found is that California's Vehicle Codes states "The headlamps and every light source in any headlamp unit shall be located at a height of not more than 54 inches nor less than 22 inches."
hope this helps you out some, and good luck with your kit.
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Angel eyes are the rings that circle the inside of the light, usually a full circle around the light
Demon eyes are rings that circle the outside of the light, usually a 3/4 circle cropped at the top
Demon eyes are rings that circle the outside of the light, usually a 3/4 circle cropped at the top
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Originally posted by V8RX7com
I was working on a similar kit a couple of years ago and here are is some insight of the problems I ran into that stopped me from developing my kit:
Because of the 2nd gen headlight FTP mechanism, it is very difficult to design a replacement part to limit the up and down travel of the lights. With my design I came close but I was worried about the longevity of the parts and decided to scrap the "kit" idea rather than to risk selling "junk". Also, since the headlight motors are towards the outside of the headlight lids the lights will "bounce" while you drive the car if the lights are only supported by the retractor arm.
The FTP mechanism keeps the headlight vertical while the headlights are retracted. This is how the FTP works by allowing the headlights to shine directly through the FTP lens. With a kit like the one you are making the FTP will not work the same as "stock" unless you figure out a way to keep the headlight facing forward when the headlights are retracted.
Some good news:
I looked into California's Vehicle Codes to determine if the kit would be "street legal" and looks like as long as you use DOT (department of transportation) approved lights the kit should be "street legal" the only thing I found is that California's Vehicle Codes states "The headlamps and every light source in any headlamp unit shall be located at a height of not more than 54 inches nor less than 22 inches."
hope this helps you out some, and good luck with your kit.
I was working on a similar kit a couple of years ago and here are is some insight of the problems I ran into that stopped me from developing my kit:
Because of the 2nd gen headlight FTP mechanism, it is very difficult to design a replacement part to limit the up and down travel of the lights. With my design I came close but I was worried about the longevity of the parts and decided to scrap the "kit" idea rather than to risk selling "junk". Also, since the headlight motors are towards the outside of the headlight lids the lights will "bounce" while you drive the car if the lights are only supported by the retractor arm.
The FTP mechanism keeps the headlight vertical while the headlights are retracted. This is how the FTP works by allowing the headlights to shine directly through the FTP lens. With a kit like the one you are making the FTP will not work the same as "stock" unless you figure out a way to keep the headlight facing forward when the headlights are retracted.
Some good news:
I looked into California's Vehicle Codes to determine if the kit would be "street legal" and looks like as long as you use DOT (department of transportation) approved lights the kit should be "street legal" the only thing I found is that California's Vehicle Codes states "The headlamps and every light source in any headlamp unit shall be located at a height of not more than 54 inches nor less than 22 inches."
hope this helps you out some, and good luck with your kit.
As for the lifting arm, thats still undecided on how the finished peice will turn out. Im also running into the possibility of the lights bouncing up and down. I have an idea on how mine will be made but no testing has been done on it, so im not sure how it will work yet.
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Looks real nice! I wouldn't mind cutting a little if need be. Very appealing project!
Dan
P.S. Angel Eyes, Eagle Eyes, whatever you want to call them look cool, my girl just put them on her car, everyone asks about them lol.
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P.S. Angel Eyes, Eagle Eyes, whatever you want to call them look cool, my girl just put them on her car, everyone asks about them lol.
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I would think you would just need to replace the head light bucket (that black thing that the bulb mounts too) with one that holds the two bulbs in the right spot, and then make a trim ring (something the Miata one was always missing).
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I would definitely be all over those as well. I remember seeing a first gen with a similar kit and the only shortened the arms to get the appropriate height. I currently dont have an FC to look at (working the idea, but am stuck in germany right now now) but I am guessing that is the same way it "pops up" About the FTC ( i think that was the right acronym) why not utilise some kind of "mirror" to flash off of if the lights dont line up. I am just throwing out ideas, dont crusify me if I am wrong.. They look great for sure!
Jason S
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