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Old 02-02-11 | 06:49 PM
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im missing a step by step guide haha ... im not creative enough to do it on my own nor do i have the patience if i **** it up lol ... but if i got a step by step guide i could do it
Old 02-02-11 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
well lets be real here, I dont consider anything to truly drop in, but a little trimming or sanding grinding is pretty much drop in

it says for h4 housings, so what am I missing?
The projector is bigger than the housing so there is more than trimming and cutting.
Old 02-02-11 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
The projector is bigger than the housing so there is more than trimming and cutting.
so they are misleading people with their advertising?

"Disassemble headlights, insert threaded mounting shaft of the projector through the pre-existing hole in the back of your reflector bucket, tighten the stack with the included hardware, and you're virtually done. These are naturally compatible with H4 and H7 reflectors, but will fit all others. "

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Vehicles that use 9003, 9004, 9007, H4, H13 halogen bulbs (H4 adapter plates included)
Old 02-02-11 | 07:01 PM
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Not really it says if your not sure give them a call and i'm pretty sure they will say it's not a direct fit for a h6054 housing.
Old 02-02-11 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
The minis don't fit so a "drop in" is not possible.
A quick search yielded that the oem headlights are "86-97 Mazda RX7 7x6 H6054". This means that you should be able to purchase a replacement (H4 sealed headlamp) that is a two piece design that allows a removable H4 bulb to be inserted instead of built in.

You should be able to bake the new headlights to peel the housing and lenses apart. Remove the tiny reflector. The projector (with correct H4 adapter washers) will thread through the front of the housing and lock in place behind with a giant nut. You may then rtv the lenses back on.

However, I forgot that in this application, there will be no backing to protect the pertruding part of the housing and somewhat exposed bulb. So a backing or "dust cover" will have to be fabricated (fiberglass?). And the headlights rotate, so you would have to make sure there is a few inches behind and under it to rotate.

Crap. I forgot about that part. Even still, a bit of fabbing and creativness is still bundles under 800$ im sure.
Old 02-02-11 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tuscanidream
A quick search yielded that the oem headlights are "86-97 Mazda RX7 7x6 H6054". This means that you should be able to purchase a replacement (H4 sealed headlamp) that is a two piece design that allows a removable H4 bulb to be inserted instead of built in.

You should be able to bake the new headlights to peel the housing and lenses apart. Remove the tiny reflector. The projector (with correct H4 adapter washers) will thread through the front of the housing and lock in place behind with a giant nut. You may then rtv the lenses back on.

However, I forgot that in this application, there will be no backing to protect the pertruding part of the housing and somewhat exposed bulb. So a backing or "dust cover" will have to be fabricated (fiberglass?). And the headlights rotate, so you would have to make sure there is a few inches behind and under it to rotate.

Crap. I forgot about that part. Even still, a bit of fabbing and creativness is still bundles under 800$ im sure.


Once again you can't just stick the projector in and screw it on it does not fit, even with sanding and a little cutting it does not fit if you don't believe me then go ahead and buy the materials and try it.
Old 02-02-11 | 07:31 PM
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of course its not a drop in for the original sealed beamed lights.


ill see what they say, none of the reviews mention having to fab a dust plate
Old 02-02-11 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
Once again you can't just stick the projector in and screw it on it does not fit, even with sanding and a little cutting it does not fit don't believe me then go ahead and buy the materials and try it.
you say this why?

they sell a h4 it, a h4 housing is a h4 housing, period.
and tuscan installed them in his bike, I cant see space being any more limited then a bike
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
of course its not a drop in for the original sealed beamed lights.


ill see what they say, none of the reviews mention having to fab a dust plate
It's not a drop in into the h4 conversion housing either...

I just saw your other post, I'll say this again, the projector is too big for the housing so it does not fit.
Old 02-02-11 | 07:35 PM
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instead of being vague why dont you offer up what you have to back up what you are saying.
Someone you know or yourself bought the mini kit that I linked and it did not fit, the kit that is sold for h4 housings?
Old 02-02-11 | 08:01 PM
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http://blackflamecustoms.com/product...feadd5f841d81d

check out the detailed pics of the kit
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I don't have anything to back it up except my experience and it doesn't fit. A traingle doesn't fit into a circle hole but we don't need an example because we already know, it's the same concept.
Old 02-02-11 | 08:08 PM
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i was just searching around, I see you did it but used the larger e55 shrouds, are you sure that is not the issue? Maybe if you had used a more compact shroud?

why didnt you link your thread instead of your vague answers that offer no information
Old 02-02-11 | 08:13 PM
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That's for a fd which use a different housing I don't have anything documented for a fc yet.
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The only thing that makes them headlamp specific (H4, H1 or whatnot) is a lock washer or spacer thing that fits the reflector specifically. It's been a year since I installed them I can't quite picture it in my head.

Here's a youtube video of them not installed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFF2XoZJIBo

My ninja has a back housing separate from the reflector. In my case, the headlight housing would seal the whole reflector and projector together.



In the case of a headlight for an FC, the back of the projector where the locking nut and bulb goes in would be exposed.

The video has some overall measurements. I would take some measurements of an FC headlight and see what you have for clearance in the car. The projector can also be attached by 4 holes on the bracket near the lenses. You could make a fiberglass housing that attaches to the lenses, comes to bolt the projector in the 4 bolt holes, extends more outward and closer together past the end of the projector with a hole for the grommet. Could even mold and sell them dirt cheap as long as the dimensions in overall length work with the FC.

It's worth the effort to have quality projectors if you want HID's. The ebay conversion kits are crap.

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Old 02-02-11 | 08:30 PM
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im guessing its worthwhile to black out the headlights when you remove the reflectors?
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http://www.high-intensity.org/forums...read.php?t=853

^^^^ This guy did a hack job and just cut a hole in the reflector and let the back of the projector be exposed, buy you get the idea. Making a new backing from fiberglass to mount and cover the projector wouldn't be tough for some one skilled with fiberglass.
Old 02-03-11 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tuscanidream
http://www.high-intensity.org/forums...read.php?t=853

^^^^ This guy did a hack job and just cut a hole in the reflector and let the back of the projector be exposed, buy you get the idea. Making a new backing from fiberglass to mount and cover the projector wouldn't be tough for some one skilled with fiberglass.

i know a thing or two about fiberglass
Old 02-03-11 | 12:03 PM
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There was a thread where a guy retrofitted Acura TSX projectors into his FC and it worked perfect. I can't find the darn thread now though. I could have sworn it was in the FC archive.
Old 02-04-11 | 03:02 AM
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It was njgreenbud, he had them for sale but said he couldnt get his lights to go down because of how far the projector stuck out the back of the housing. Im sure a quick call would get this "will it wont it" question sorted out
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there are different projectors, some obviously deeper then others.
The HID guys have said the area behind the lights will need to be modified a little bit, its been so long since I have had the lights out I dont even remember what it looks like bac there.
Retrofit already sold tons of conversions for FDs and FCs so its not a question of IF its a question of people jumping in and doing it, or paying someone else to do it like sakebomb, my local modifier told me about $650- $700 with supplying everything including spraying the inside of the housings, but I am sure this is something I can handle especially considering they sell plug and play harness/relays

there are actually dedicated hid retro forums with alot of good information on them
Old 02-05-11 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
most guys with $2k cars aint spending $800+ on headlights

True. That's a grip of money for something one really doesn't "need".


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I've been working on a setup with a mini d2s projectors I got from TRS. I used some cheap ebay housings with a clear glass lens. The projector does "bolt" in but the housing is not deep enough and I'm in the process of making a bubble lens out of acrylic to clear the projector in the front. Otherwise they function 100%. I have under $400 into this setup.










This was just for testing, the alignment wasn't spot on.




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Old 02-06-11 | 06:36 PM
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Great pics reger. Definetly post some pics up when you get the new lenses on.
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reger- why not try moving the projector back to use the original lens?
is it because you cannot have anything to mount it to?
if you looked at sake bombs pictures on the trs forum you can see where they used 2 part foam when they did the FD lights, I still cant figure that one out im wondering if thats what they used to hold the projectors in place eliminating the need to fabricate a new part for the rear of the light.

My idea is to make a fiberglass shroud for the back part of the light, I just have other things going on right now but will have these lights sorted out by the spring.



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