Mackin is friggin joke. Took me over 6 months to get my Volks, and their answer was "Too bad. Where else are you going to get them?" And it wasn't the first time. They need competition. I have mixed feeling on knockoffs. I have SSR's on my FD. Real ones. Switched out some Volks for them. Real ones. On my FC, where my wheels are far more likely to get trashed and/or stolen, I'll likely run the knockoffs it came with when I bought it, or throw on some different cheap knockoffs. Although I do see both sides of the argument, manufacturer's problems are nearly always availability and their price point. Quality arguments aside, do I want to wait 6+ months and pay $3500+ for a set of wheels, or do I want to get them in a week for $850? Volks used to be affordable for the average Joe. Now they think they are HRE or something. However, the above picture is retarded. If I have knockoffs, rest assured, I will make it known that they are knockoffs. lol

 

they raised prices thanks to knock offs.
oh and it probably took months because your wheels where being made/imported from Japan.. Gotta be patient.

 

I hate that arguement @^Hypertek.

You don't HAVE to be patient. I can understand on waiting for certain parts you can't get local, parts the car NEEDS, but wheels? Honestly? CCW > anything you can get in japan, in terms of quality and price. In my opinion these volks/works wheels are obsolete thanks to ccw and enkei. The rpf01 is light, affordable, and now comes in a 10.5. The whole point of work/volk was that they were good looking high performance track wheels so you didn't have to buy those track steelies or shell out ridiculous amounts of money...but now look. They became trendy, and most cars that have them will NEVER see a track and those guys DONT even push their cars. They just park, show off their hellagay stance with their wheels sticking out, and want you to give them props because they overpaid and WAITED like idiots and don't wanna feel stupid about it.

If you spend over 3k on wheels you're an idiot. If you did it to follow some japanese tuner lifestyle you're just lost.

Please, no one give me that whole speech about "oh they loved those wheels and always wanted them and had to have them and blah blah blah" meanwhile they're sitting on coilovers they bought used that have needed a rebuild from ages, their coolant seals are gone, their paintjob is rattlecan, they need new brakepads at the least, their fluids have never gotten flushed, their bodykit is ziptied together and cracking, and the interior looks like autozone puked inside it's riddled with crap accessories.

Buy 3000$ wheels and wait for them if you have a new porsche, meaning you're in a tax bracket where spending 3k on wheels won't hurt you. But don't spend 3k on wheels when you paid 500$ for your car.

edit: Okay, so I live in Canada, so things cost a bit more up here, but in relevance my argument still stands.

work xd9's I can get for like 1800-2200$ depending on little things, emotions are cheap. Kai's for even less, NEW. but for the weight and the 'rareness (read: they arent rare at all) I can get a set of rpf01's for 1k. That's a no brainer to me.

I'm just really sick of people telling me I need to get "ill fitting wheels" bc I have a widebody. My rpf01's rock. If they get damaged theyre easy to replace, and hence I don't worry as much. When I do want to buy a nice set of wheels, they will be CCW's.

 

2fierce is on FIRE, love it bro

 

the guys who support cheap knockoffs are the guys who did not grow up around these cars, the guys who don't have the same passion behind them, the guys who just pick up these cars as a cheap thrill and probably would have never paid attention to these cars in the first place.

Yeah I said it.
I grew up around japanese cars and desiring all those exotic parts..

Of course, budget should be taken into account, but building a car takes passion and money.
real Japanese wheels tend to stay in style alot longer due to their collective value. People love old watanabes and 3 spoke advans etc.

Some may think I am an *******, that is fine.. I am just one that appreciates the passion, quality and "exoticness" in these aftermarket parts and tuning culture.

 

You said it, and you're wrong. I did grow up around them, and have literally never owned a stock car or truck. I have/had Volks/SSr's/etc. But I'll still buy knockoffs as well, for the reasons I stated. And manufacturers raising their prices to counter knockoffs makes absolutely no sense, business or otherwise. I realize they are being made and imported from Japan. You know how long that takes? 1 month. I had a set of custom built 3 piece wheels made from a company in Australia and that's how long it took. Custom. Not picked out of a catalog from pre-made sizes and colors. And they got them to me 5+ months faster than Volk.

 

it is a little bit of bullshit that it takes so long to get a set of wheels.

If they are THAT busy then great, they should not be complaining about knock offs.
I think it takes that long because maybe they do not even make the wheels and they have to wait for someone ELSE to make them for them

And not to be a douche Hypertek- but didn't you buy your car with those wheels already on it? When was the last time YOU bought a set of new Japanese wheels?

 

agreed...

for example, remember the Time Attacks that came out a few years back. once people started buying them, other companies started to replicate them, like the TE's and CE's especially. They're probably still one of the sickest wheels, but the "uniqueness" of them is gone.

 

I'm an idoit I guess because I spent around $5200 on one set with tires & $4500 on another set with tires. Both sets were made & delivered to me within 5 weeks of my order. No they were not Works or Volks ect. so that makes me even more uncool. I like what I like & if I want to spend the money on high dollar wheels or buy some cheaper replicas I will.

Sarusanji were you speaking of Simmons? They were a great company too bad they are no more. Both of my sets were from them. If Makin had a 6 month wait, that alone tells me that too many people were rocking those wheels & it was better to find another solution.

The only wheel brands I actually have owned were Simmons, HRE, Racing Hart, TSW, CSi & one set of Motegi. In the future I see no reason why not throw a set of cheap wheels on the daily or a budget build.

Desire for wheels just because they were made in Japan means nothing to me. If the product is of great quality what does it matter.

 

once you get into the widebody applications the wheels make the whole conversion, cant cheap out when you go that far

 

I dunno, I still think it's better to buy used real wheels at a discount than fake wheels at full price. No the real companies don't make money off it, but I'm also not going to keep a fake company in business...

 

Yeah really! Kind of pointless to spend the money to wide body the car then skimp on the wheels.

I got the HRE's when I had my BMW, but you don't want to rock cheap wheels on a upper class car. LOL

 

Fake wheels make the baby Jesus cry.....

JDM EGO says it best...




and those with Rotas...JDM EGO has a message for you too....

 

Hypertek, nothing against you or what you love. I'm all for it.

I just won't personally support it. I won't support the hellaflush look, the overpriced HEAVY japanese wheels, WAITING for such wheels, and I most certainly won't support knockoffs.

Enkei and ccw all day.

 

its not the "quality" per se. Everything now a days everythings made all nearly the same. I think its the uniqueness, style or rarity of the wheel these days. If you can find some old school rs-watanabes with some crazy offset, or have a some neo chrome works meisters. Thats is where you get mad kudos.

I just don't agree with companies' copying other companies' designs? And then stomping a sticker on it and saying they're SSR's or Volks... Why can't they come up with there own unique wheel that makes them stand out from the rest?

 

My favourite wheel, to anyone paying attention to this thread, ever, if I could find a CLEAN set of, I would buy...

Regamaster EvoII. SO gangster. 17x10+0 or as close to possible as that lmao

 

Yeah Simmons! Haha. Almost no one remembers those. My first set of high quality wheels.

I guess I just don't care anymore. Not trying sound cool or jaded or whatever, but I've had like 5 sets of Volks, a set of SSR's, Works, etc. I'm just over it. If Volk hadn't of priced themselves out of my market, I'd consider picking up a set of TE37 SL's for my FD. But like I said, the price and the wait is just retarded. If I end up running knockoffs on my FC and I'm not cool anymore, whoopdeefuckingdoo. I don't build my cars to impress other people.

 

 

Meh, it's called saving. You've supported some good companies. Nothing wrong with that at all. If you buy some cheap shitty wheels to beat the crap out of and laugh about it, fine but get them second or third party.... Dont give the manufacturers your hard earned money so they can use it to come up with craftier ways to steal from others.


Hypertek, thanks for making me feel WORSE about the hks stuff. I redeemed myself though by getting a REAL hks catch can and i had a REAL hks gt2530r at one point on my dsm. I'm still going to feel bad.


Really, it wouldn't be a problem at all if the NAME wasn't being used. That's the point i'm trying to get across.

Te37's were my favorite set of wheels until rota and verrooafralsjkljsajripstoen or whatever started "replicating" them. I saw my first set in person about 3 or 4 years ago picking up a gear box for my dsm. Dude had them in 16x10 or some **** like that with some bf semi slicks. 700hp gsx. I looked into pricing and said "too rich for my blood" and went oem instead.

I'm pretty bent on saving up money for some SSR Agles, Wed Kranze bazreia, negative offset deep as **** abc exclusives or getting lucky on some precious/fabulous/work/etc euroline style joints. Regardless if they are real, japanese, cost a grip or not, they are multipeice wheels that i crave and i love them. Yes, i'm a fanboy, they look awesome and it makes me feel warm and fuzzy i'm supporting a company that's got some ******* class and treats their business like an artform.

If i'm shooting for a legit part and question it's credability, i will buy second or third party used or new from an authorized dealer. Kids gotta eat. Bills have to be paid and it's damn sure not MY FAULT chinese people can't keep their legs shut.

 

Like I said, on that I totally agree. If you have cheap knockoffs don't try to fake the funk. lol