I want this car!
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I want this car!
http://billings.craigslist.org/cto/2790792289.html
This thing looks amazing but the guy won't budge from the 12,500 price...
to bad the wheels are hideous and it has a red interior...
This thing looks amazing but the guy won't budge from the 12,500 price...
to bad the wheels are hideous and it has a red interior...
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that an considering if those miles are original. how long did it sit and hiw much. wouldnt you think that little of miles at its age is worse then good? idk man. for 12.5 thats a lot. i bet that thing has sat for a long long time.
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It isn't overpriced, it's just more car than most will feel the need to pay for.
Consider that you are buying a car with a freshly built drivetrain including transmission, driveshaft, differential, halfshafts, hubs. And at the very least, a prime rebuildable core engine. Price the parts, labor and installation too because you won't have to lift a finger or smell like tranny fluid for a week. Then, body work and an above average paint job. Add that to a decent car for 4k. It'd cost way more time and money to make this car than to buy it. Unfortunately, it does still have the porno red interior and terrible wheels.
Disclaimer: 87 TII with 22k miles
Consider that you are buying a car with a freshly built drivetrain including transmission, driveshaft, differential, halfshafts, hubs. And at the very least, a prime rebuildable core engine. Price the parts, labor and installation too because you won't have to lift a finger or smell like tranny fluid for a week. Then, body work and an above average paint job. Add that to a decent car for 4k. It'd cost way more time and money to make this car than to buy it. Unfortunately, it does still have the porno red interior and terrible wheels.
Disclaimer: 87 TII with 22k miles
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http://billings.craigslist.org/cto/2790792289.html
This thing looks amazing but the guy won't budge from the 12,500 price...
to bad the wheels are hideous and it has a red interior...
This thing looks amazing but the guy won't budge from the 12,500 price...
to bad the wheels are hideous and it has a red interior...
Low mileage, but everything cloth, plastic, and rubber is 20+ dried out years old. Even if garaged the majority of the time, still an issue. Cost comparison to bring another car mechanically to a 19,000 car doesn't matter. Those kind of repairs are expected. Just ask any insurance adjuster.
BUT, there is always the guy/girl that just HAS to have it and jumps on it without doing research. An observation PT Barnum made a long time ago.
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I've thought about it and the only buyer looking for that (and my) car is someone who loves the car, but doesn't have the knowledge, skill, or time to do the work themselves. They're paying for peace of mind that they will be able to drive the car for 50k without major issues. Whether that's true or not, that's what they are paying for. I don't see these cars going up in value until people who loved these cars in their youth have mid-life crises, which I predict will be right around 2020.
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I've thought about it and the only buyer looking for that (and my) car is someone who loves the car, but doesn't have the knowledge, skill, or time to do the work themselves. They're paying for peace of mind that they will be able to drive the car for 50k without major issues. Whether that's true or not, that's what they are paying for. I don't see these cars going up in value until people who loved these cars in their youth have mid-life crises, which I predict will be right around 2020.
you can't put a car on new rubber tires and let it sit for 20, 30, 50 years and expect the rubber to still be new and usable. the same is true of the way these engines internally seal.
even at best i'm seeing good condition engines fail left and right now because the seals simply aren't living much past the 25 year mark.
and people having mid life crisis usually buy new sports cars, not old projects that require time, money and effort in order to enjoy them. most people either buy fully restored old school cars or brand new sports cars off the showroom floor. but most people don't realize that these engines still have a shelf life.
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I know you've seen infinitely more engines and rx7's than I have, so I'm sure your prognosis is correct. However, in my personal experience, the 87 TII I bought was parked for two decades and doesn't need any internal seals yet. I was surprised it didn't, but I doubt it has a normal 125k life like most original engines. When that day comes, we'll have another data point for the critical "10+ yr sitting engine" longevity discussion.
Hey, poor people need mid-life crises too! Not everyone can spend 60k on a vette (or 4 hyundai accents). To the buyer, this fits in the 'restored old school' category because they don't know any better. I'd be curious to find out how much it actually goes for, but other than that, I have nothing else to add.
Hey, poor people need mid-life crises too! Not everyone can spend 60k on a vette (or 4 hyundai accents). To the buyer, this fits in the 'restored old school' category because they don't know any better. I'd be curious to find out how much it actually goes for, but other than that, I have nothing else to add.
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Guess I have to accept that nobody is going to kick down my door with 10k to buy my car. I guess it's the same mentality as the noob people that bought the car when it was new. They weren't expecting to be under it every other weekend or doing wheel to wheel racing in it. They just wanted a cool car to drive for 50k miles.
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My sentiments exactly. FC's just aren't collector cars... I called the guy and he sounds like your typical uneducated used car salesman. I asked if he'd take 7k and he just laughed... I realize its his car but it blows me away when you see people attaching arbitrary value to vehicles.
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Other than the mileage, there's nothing special about this car. Even then... No where in this ad does it state that this is original mileage. I suppose we can assume that it is... "It has less then 19000 miles on it." This statement may be true... But rarely do I trust what people say on Craig's List. Read automotive classifieds on CL... You'll see what I mean. A 1987 TII isn't anything to get SUPER obsessed over. You can find a cheaper one, for sure. And you'll have a much more educational experience rebuilding the engine!