First day driving the RX7 in snow.
10-10-12, 08:37 PM
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First day driving the RX7 in snow.
First thing I realized how useless not having an LSD is. I can't even slide/drift around on snow covered pavement. I was so excited coming from my FWD car and having to use the e-brake to slide and then looks like I'll be needing an LSD. Which N/A models came with LSD's so I could swap one into my car, this is depressing, aha. inb4 search Was it the GXL and GTUs?
I'm still on my shitty all-seasons that the car came with. They have no traction in the wet, so I'm not excited for snow. Luckily I'm going to check out a set of Blizzaks tomorrow and if those are too used I'll be buying new winters and studding them.
Anyone else driving their 7's in the winter? I believe it's her first time seeing snow and I've been trying to sell it to get a Miata, but looks like it's too late now, aha.
Rant over.
Oh, and left my girlfriend a present for the morning
Oh and there was lots of hail, so much that I couldn't hear the radio, the exhaust or have a conversation with my girlfriend. I hope my paints okay
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I'm still on my shitty all-seasons that the car came with. They have no traction in the wet, so I'm not excited for snow. Luckily I'm going to check out a set of Blizzaks tomorrow and if those are too used I'll be buying new winters and studding them.
Anyone else driving their 7's in the winter? I believe it's her first time seeing snow and I've been trying to sell it to get a Miata, but looks like it's too late now, aha.
Rant over.
Oh, and left my girlfriend a present for the morning
Oh and there was lots of hail, so much that I couldn't hear the radio, the exhaust or have a conversation with my girlfriend. I hope my paints okay
.
10-10-12, 10:47 PM
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I drove an fc, open dif, all season tires that were far from new all winter, 300 miles every weekend. Never got stuck, never had a problem. It teaches you how to drive real fast.
I drove an s14 all of last winter with an lsd, and it seemed to push more through the corners. The front end would break loose before the rears with the lsd, where as the FC with the open dif lost traction in the rear first nearly every time. Of course that is not much of a comparison considering its two different cars, but the same principle applies.
Lsd will give you loads more traction, but it will push more in corners w/ low traction.
I drove an s14 all of last winter with an lsd, and it seemed to push more through the corners. The front end would break loose before the rears with the lsd, where as the FC with the open dif lost traction in the rear first nearly every time. Of course that is not much of a comparison considering its two different cars, but the same principle applies.
Lsd will give you loads more traction, but it will push more in corners w/ low traction.
10-10-12, 10:54 PM
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I drove an fc, open dif, all season tires that were far from new all winter, 300 miles every weekend. Never got stuck, never had a problem. It teaches you how to drive real fast.
I drove an s14 all of last winter with an lsd, and it seemed to push more through the corners. The front end would break loose before the rears with the lsd, where as the FC with the open dif lost traction in the rear first nearly every time. Of course that is not much of a comparison considering its two different cars, but same principle applies.
Lsd will give you loads more traction, but it will push more in corners w/ low traction.
I drove an s14 all of last winter with an lsd, and it seemed to push more through the corners. The front end would break loose before the rears with the lsd, where as the FC with the open dif lost traction in the rear first nearly every time. Of course that is not much of a comparison considering its two different cars, but same principle applies.
Lsd will give you loads more traction, but it will push more in corners w/ low traction.
I want the rear to stay planted unless I give it the beans, then I want it to come loose.
10-11-12, 09:31 AM
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Don't see how you drove with an open diff plus all seasons. We just got about two inches of snow in the past two hours and I was sliding everywhere even in lower gears.
Unfortunately all my windows like to fog up so I couldn't see a damn thing and the heater didn't help until I got home, then the front window finally cleared up.
Unfortunately all my windows like to fog up so I couldn't see a damn thing and the heater didn't help until I got home, then the front window finally cleared up.
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10-11-12, 05:31 PM
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Smells like 2 stroke.
No, GXL's had friction plate type limited slip. I believe GTUs had viscous which is better because it doesn't wear out as quickly.
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10-12-12, 11:46 AM
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how about a locker? I have a LS1/T56 with a ford 8.8 (3.73 gears) and been wondering how snow will treat me. I know it will suck but I plan on DD this car all winter this year. Im sure the offset wheels wont help but the rest is in the air as far as I know
10-12-12, 12:34 PM
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yeah pretty much. i was just wondering how the snow will treat me, lol. i have trouble making sharp turns as it is now cant imagine wet or ice. with the locker it will lose grip then less than a second later both wheels are "locked" and spin together. its the locked part that sucks in turns
10-12-12, 12:42 PM
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S4 GXL and GTU has clutch LSD
S5 GTUs had the viscous
from my own experience. the clutch type are pretty good in the snow.....when they actually work. You have to remember that many of these lsd units arent rebuilt and have more than 100k miles on them. My GXL I had was great in the snow because of traction from the LSD, even with summer tires LOL, but after some track and drift events, next winter season the LSD was so worn out that it was basically an open diff.
I like that with the viscous LSD you wont have to worry about worn part (almost). In the snow, it will always work. The only problem is that it will stop working when the fluid gets hot, but in the winter time that wont be a problem since traction is less.
but nothing beats having a good set of winter tires.
I like to buy narrow high aspect ratio winter tires for clearance. Summer tires are 225/45/17 for me, but I switch to 195/65/15 for winter tires.
having lsd in the snow will make you spinout and oversteer if you arent careful, but its so fun
S5 GTUs had the viscous
from my own experience. the clutch type are pretty good in the snow.....when they actually work. You have to remember that many of these lsd units arent rebuilt and have more than 100k miles on them. My GXL I had was great in the snow because of traction from the LSD, even with summer tires LOL, but after some track and drift events, next winter season the LSD was so worn out that it was basically an open diff.
I like that with the viscous LSD you wont have to worry about worn part (almost). In the snow, it will always work. The only problem is that it will stop working when the fluid gets hot, but in the winter time that wont be a problem since traction is less.
but nothing beats having a good set of winter tires.
I like to buy narrow high aspect ratio winter tires for clearance. Summer tires are 225/45/17 for me, but I switch to 195/65/15 for winter tires.
having lsd in the snow will make you spinout and oversteer if you arent careful, but its so fun
10-12-12, 12:54 PM
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Yeah, I'm on stock size all seasons since they came with the car and were basically brand new. They're 205/60/15, but for the winter I'm going with a 185/65/15 or 195/65/15. I'm not worried about getting stuck since I live on a main road and I work and go to school on main roads as well.
I watched an AWD Pontiac Aztec get stuck in ~1 foot of snow (we got this overnight) and my Civic had no problem with winter tires. Both of us were leaving the bar at the same time, it was hilarious.
This was within a few hours. It then continued snowing from that time (2:00am) until morning. It was brutal. This was back in March 2012.
And yes, we got about 2 inches of snow in the morning, then for the rest of the day it was raining and hailing, so it all melted. It then snowed again this morning but now it's raining again. It's been raining/snowing for the past 3 days without any breaks. Back in Sudbury(my hometown, I'm in the Sault for college) they also got snow a few times already.
I watched an AWD Pontiac Aztec get stuck in ~1 foot of snow (we got this overnight) and my Civic had no problem with winter tires. Both of us were leaving the bar at the same time, it was hilarious.
This was within a few hours. It then continued snowing from that time (2:00am) until morning. It was brutal. This was back in March 2012.
And yes, we got about 2 inches of snow in the morning, then for the rest of the day it was raining and hailing, so it all melted. It then snowed again this morning but now it's raining again. It's been raining/snowing for the past 3 days without any breaks. Back in Sudbury(my hometown, I'm in the Sault for college) they also got snow a few times already.
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10-12-12, 02:20 PM
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yeah pretty much. i was just wondering how the snow will treat me, lol. i have trouble making sharp turns as it is now cant imagine wet or ice. with the locker it will lose grip then less than a second later both wheels are "locked" and spin together. its the locked part that sucks in turns
10-13-12, 09:35 PM
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I grew up driving RWD in the snow, it is a different skill than just driving. It's easier if you learned that way.
LSD definitely helps. AWD helps even more.
You learn patience.
I did end up running around in the snow alot in old RWD Volvos. If you think ahead it is not bad. It's a lot harder with an auto transmission.
LSD definitely helps. AWD helps even more.
You learn patience.I did end up running around in the snow alot in old RWD Volvos. If you think ahead it is not bad. It's a lot harder with an auto transmission.
10-13-12, 09:53 PM
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I've driven through terrible winters in my 97 Civic with an auto trans and have driven my moms RWD Chrysler 300 a lot during the winter with winter tires and loved turning off the traction control and drifting around corners. I have never gotten stuck unless friends and I would go on the lakes and I'd slide on ice into a 2 foot tall snowbank or on really snowy days in mall/grocery store parking lots with a foot of fresh snow. It's always a good time, aha.
