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HotRodMex 05-19-08 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by dillon (Post 8201670)
Summer still gets over a 100 here too.

Then where you live sucks. LOL!

fornetti14 07-06-10 10:40 PM

Did anyone ever make these?
I really don't see how it would attached and remove easily around the body and side windows.

Rob XX 7 07-07-10 06:08 AM

I have never seen one, people talk about it, they talk a good talk, I guess then they realize how difficult this would be

You want a coupe buy a coupe!

fornetti14 07-07-10 06:53 AM

I already have a convertible which is a ton of fun.

I saw a hard top in the junk yard and had an idea to cut the roof off. It was just an idea.

Upon further review there's no way to fab a rear window or seal where the side windows meet the top.

Rob XX 7 07-07-10 08:24 AM

you cant just "cut the roof off", it is far more involved then that, sealing the back window would be the least of the issues

redlineracer 07-07-10 10:29 AM

This wont happen and if it did there wouldn't be enough interest to mass produce. I have a vert it wasn't my first choice but for $500 I couldn't say no. I think of a hard retractable convertible top like what you would see on a BMW or a Volvo. Way to much work and not worth the effort.

SouthSideSlider 07-07-10 12:05 PM

sadly my old prototype was dwestroied before and copys could be made.since then i have got a few ideas form fell rx7club members like: ussing honda prelude rear glass(my Prototype had a plexi which i realy didn't like how it looked.)

sadly i nolonger have the kinda time needed to work on this project aswell as my B234FT biuld while working second shift at Boeing of Charlston.

if i ever do get back around to this i will lobby for shine auto to massproduce it as i would not eb able to keep up with demand.

Rob XX 7 07-07-10 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by SouthSideSlider (Post 10097287)
sadly my old prototype was dwestroied before and copys could be made.since then i have got a few ideas form fell rx7club members like: ussing honda prelude rear glass(my Prototype had a plexi which i realy didn't like how it looked.)

sadly i nolonger have the kinda time needed to work on this project aswell as my B234FT biuld while working second shift at Boeing of Charlston.

if i ever do get back around to this i will lobby for shine auto to massproduce it as i would not eb able to keep up with demand.

yours sounds like it was more permanent?
to market a removable top that would not render the OEM soft top useless is very difficult and when complete no one would pay the money for it anyhow

RXVERT 07-07-10 05:03 PM

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(This is from a prrevious post )Now heres some picts with the top up, its not as flattering, I just hope one day someone out there really creative could make a nice removable 1 piece hard top, and, or better yet, a really hot retractablle hard top like the new miatas have. that would be the ultimate 2nd gen vert, hands down. Picts of that too.

Rob XX 7 07-07-10 05:23 PM

I wonder what the center section looks like with no material on it?
I bet that guy smoothed it out and painted it- seems like a good idea

duo2999 07-07-10 05:29 PM

@RXVERT

i really like the way that vert has the top. there is just something about it that i like.

retractable hard tops seem to be the way some cars are going. i think its a smart move because you dont have to deal with the top getting torn or cut in anyway, but yea the bad part is it will be expensive as hell if it breaks.

RXVERT 07-07-10 07:50 PM

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Other ideas : #0 Carbonfiber the targatop, #1 Fabricate a rear end like this piece for corvettes, that would flow into the hard targa top (already seen) which could still be removable if fabricated right. #2 fabricate a light bar like the ones they use on a mustang or a mercedez. #3 & #4 Years ago I tried using a tounea cover from a honda s2000, did not work well but theres other tounea covers styles that could be fabricated.

Spirit-RE 07-07-10 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by RXVERT (Post 10098214)
Other ideas : #1 Fabricate a rear end like this piece for corvettes, that would flow into the hard targa top (already seen) which could still be removable if fabricated right.

That is a Great idea IMO.



Or what I was thinking about today, removable top that resembles the shape of a cosmo roof.


http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/images/pg09_26b.jpg


Regardless, if someone decides to make and sell these and they look decent, I'd be in for sure.

Rob XX 7 07-08-10 06:00 AM

I repaired a fiberglass top for a fairly new corvette, it was a removable hardtop when the car only came soft top, the guy paid $5000 for this top, it had real glass in the rear- I can bet no one would pay even half that

RXVERT 07-08-10 08:53 AM

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You really have to think it out, with a 1 piece hard top, when you get to your destination, and you say to yourself, wow, the weathers awesome, can you remove the top by yourself (if need be), and then where do you put it ??? However for those states where its more cold and rainy for the winter months the 1 piece hard top makes sense.

Rob XX 7 07-08-10 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Rob XX 7 (Post 10098967)
I repaired a fiberglass top for a fairly new corvette, it was a removable hardtop when the car only came soft top, the guy paid $5000 for this top, it had real glass in the rear- I can bet no one would pay even half that



this was aftermarket by the way, not a dealer item

andycivic 07-09-10 12:49 PM

ive been pondering this also i was thinkin of using a roof and rear glass off of a s13 coupe but pondering it is as far as it went one reason i thought of a s13 roof is i thik it would look sick with a orgin roof spolier... as for how the targa looks with no fabric on it my car has no fabric on it its just painted black the car white and it looks good... there is really not that much smoothing out to do

RXVERT 07-09-10 02:10 PM

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I had this other option idea : Since the roofline on the vert looks pretty decent as is, how bout makeing a fiberglass mold of the back half the the vert roof (which should be removable) and that the back half still would connect to the targa top portion, the only major difference is that the rear window part is modified to be like the Honda Del Sol ( glass staight downwards) Now this is very crude photoshop, but just so you get an idea I've darkened out the rear window on the picture, ,,, you have to imagine it with the Honda Del Sol style rear window built into it.

Rob XX 7 07-09-10 03:19 PM

I do not like that look at all, even when they used to do it to hatchbacks, even on the BMW convertibles I do not like it

RXVERT 07-09-10 04:01 PM

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There's, stock verts, or just the guys who just slap on a bodykits only ,then theres the guys who like to customize and, THAT , is very Personal thing, when they do this They build them to there liking, they have to drive it and live with it. There is no right or wrong here, When I throw my ideas out there, Its like a Buffet the individuals choose what they like or dislike, this forum is to learn procedures and swap ideas , I thought? Don't Hate:nod the messenger. :nod:

Rob XX 7 07-09-10 04:12 PM

I aint hating, just stating

I thought we were discussing


I like stock verts

WingsofWar 07-09-10 04:13 PM

wrong....forums are here to tell people what to do. Don't you know that internet is the embodiment of communism? As long as the the interwebz exists The nazi party will rise again.

RXVERT 07-09-10 04:22 PM

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Sorry ROB XX 7 Iwas too sensitive, Wings of war, to each his own.

Rob XX 7 07-09-10 05:11 PM

I feel the US version of the convertible should be left in the same form it left Hiroshima

RXVERT 07-09-10 05:22 PM

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I agree ,,, SO that's why I'll ALWAYS leave 1 of my verts Stock.

Rob XX 7 07-09-10 05:27 PM

I was being sarcastic, lol

Spirit-RE 07-09-10 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 10101555)
wrong....forums are here to tell people what to do. Don't you know that internet is the embodiment of communism? As long as the the interwebz exists The nazi party will rise again.

:rofl:

ashleyanne 07-09-10 07:48 PM

:]
My favorite FC ever:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...1_955935_n.jpg

RXVERT 07-09-10 11:16 PM

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Ashleyanne, I'm trying to figure out if that is a real picture or photoshopped. I thinking it wasnt originally a vert, with a coupe top grafted on because the vert doors are longer with no support to the tops of the windows. which means that was ALOT of body work, but what puzzles me is it looks like a vert trunk, so thats why its either a Coupe with the rear window customized and then added a trunk or its a photoshopped picture. But I'm not sure.

Tension 07-10-10 02:05 AM

Looks photoshopped.
You can tell where they blurred the trunk and the road right above the trunk.

Rob XX 7 07-10-10 07:11 AM

that's not hypertek's car photshopped?
he has those same little mirrors


looking at his car you can see how that was photoshopped where the hatch starts- wonder if he knows his car was grafted

https://i47.tinypic.com/jtsy01.jpg

SouthSideSlider 07-10-10 11:04 AM

it is photoshoped it was ion another thread about hardtop or a short window coupe.

RXVERT 07-10-10 02:58 PM

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Well ,thats 4 phottoshopped and 1 not sure. The photoshopps have it. Unless someone steps foward to say and prove us different. By the way lets imagine for a second that fc was for real, the way the top was grafted on there permanently, you might as well have bought a Coupe in the first place. Defeats the purpose of having a vert.

Rob XX 7 07-10-10 03:19 PM

that is hyperteks car, there is no denying it, the photo is not real

with FCs being so inexpensive like you said- you want a coupe buy a coupe

andycivic 10-10-10 12:37 AM

it might be in a year but me and my friend are gonna make a hard top just for the back half of the top. one reason for this is so the car will still be a targa and a vert. we boath have verts and his is for drift only. so it wont have a top at all. when i say drift only i mean this car will never see road time. more than likely we will test it on his car. plus he is a body man that used to make hard tops for boxter's for a place called kanetic's they made quite a few. so his know how and my funding we will have at least one hard top and like my other post we will make it so we can put a roof spoiler on it... i dont know why i just love that look... lol

marshall13B 01-31-11 09:46 PM

Dude I'm so ready for a hardxtop lol. I don't care about support I'm caging so whatev...

Rob XX 7 01-31-11 10:22 PM

see you next year

NoPistons! 02-02-11 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by Tension (Post 10102354)
Looks photoshopped.
You can tell where they blurred the trunk and the road right above the trunk.

It is photoshopped because i begged and begged and begged and started this thread called "coupe out an fc" or something like that a year or two ago. I wont take credit for the shop because i have no clue how to do that stuff but i will take credit for the idea/brainchild and my inspiration was angry earl's and drift union's cars.

:)

Good stuff. That peanut shaped box most of you think inside, i like to cut into little tiny pieces and light on fire.


If you want a part made and it doesn't exist yet, one should think highly of making it themselves. Just do homework, figure out what it's going to take and drive at it as hard as you want. I still have yet to start on this thing and i'm reminded of it every 4 or 5 months or so.

Rob XX 7 02-02-11 06:13 AM

your funny, the issue is there is no way to have a functioning soft top and a hard top on this car, period. People come along every so often and swear they are going to do it and vanish.
We are talking about a car not worth anything and one that is availible in a coupe that would offer some cargo space as well.

Its just not worth it and you still have the issue of mounting the top to the vehicle, if you are going to make it permanent then just glass the soft top and try your hand at bodywork- good luck on that and I hope not to see your car in the junkyard

RRTEC 02-02-11 09:17 PM

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/492613/1988-mazda-rx-7

pretty bad..

duo2999 02-02-11 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by Juiceh (Post 8201471)
Also, if you do go about making a prototype or even finished products, please put in a rear window that is much larger than the stock vert rear window. One that sorta wraps around the rear corners would be sweet.

i have no idea if it would fit or not, but the glass from the s13 coupe is the kind that bends on the corner. I should photoshop that and see how it turns out. just a thought though.

Spirit-RE 02-02-11 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by RRTEC (Post 10450561)

bahhh

Rob XX 7 02-03-11 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by RRTEC (Post 10450561)

and no longer a functioning convertible, plenty of us have owned both and I think we can all agree that driving a coupe>vert with the top up

T-Rex88 10-02-11 03:47 PM

Personally I think the notch back just looks better even if it is heavier, with 400+ hp it wouldn't matter too much... And a hard top even if it was permanent would be sweet! And I know people are saying just get a hatchback but I already have one, it's not the same...

RXVERT 11-12-11 05:32 PM

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First of all Hardtops built for the "OTHER" Verts seems to rounded on the back end .See first 2pict ,for the side windows area it would have to be more squared off, but it can be done, keep in mind, like I mentioned earlier that when you reach your destination and if you want to put the top down and drive around, where do but you put it? Next idea the hard top convertible , Will be alot of man hours and expenses, but,,, theoretically could be done. see next 5 picts: I'd like this vision, but I'm open, to any good ideas,Note: photoshopped pict I did the material would have to be fiberglassed or sheet metaled or???? rear window would most likely have to be flatten, like a Honda Del Sol , the targa top would still be functional , the motors would probably need to be removed so the roof line would fit down below the bodyline,and behind the trunk area a flap that opens up backwards, to close in and streamline the roofline to the trunk line ,can use tonnec cover humps to hide this fact, As long as the targa top folds down and the motors removed ,,,,,it could possible be done.

Rob XX 7 11-12-11 08:02 PM

i cant wait to see the finished pictures





thats sarcasm again

RXVERT 11-12-11 10:16 PM

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There's thousands of forum members out there, some engineers, bodyrepair people and mechanics, even the Mazda builders , perhaps the idea could sink in and and someone will step foward and create it. We contribute whatever ways we can, My Mission is to Collect , Gather, put together ideas,and put it out there, Stimulate and Motivate , The Mazda RX7 Vert is not dead, and I truely believe it'll come back again. In the mean while if that goal is not attainable for you, hows about the simple rollbar behind the drivers seat to enhance the look, and or if you like music, heres some Ideas cool placement for the speakers.

Rob XX 7 11-13-11 07:52 AM

I have a glass shop, I have been involved with many prototype projects - some with patents applied. I can tell you that the R&D to develop this would never be recouped and the final product would not be practical to maintain a hardtop and a operating soft top.

I recall repairing 2 hard top conversions for corvettes and these pieces cost the owners $4000+ by the time it was on the car painted ( the price has since dropped ) - what RX7 owner is going to lay out that kind of money?? These were what I would consider to be nice units, they had headliners, large rear defroster glass and had that factory look and you didnt drill or modify the car to mount it. It could be removed easily. Then what happens after someone puts all that hard work is someone copies it who didnt have to absorb all that R&D to make the plug for the mold and fit the product. You will see hardtop specials in the vendor section of the forum by those who always copy others work

The biggest issue with the car is having a operating convertible roof. Meaning I can hit the switch and the top goes down, people have hoops, roll bars, speakers, etc- but the roof is no longer functional or they have to remove the targa section and store it outside of the car.

For a show car it might not be a issue, for the regular guy who might get caught in the rain on the way home or doesnt want the sun beating down on his head when its 90+ degrees we need a operating roof.

If the car had a rigid boot to hide the roof under it would alot simpler to design a hardtop. Otherwise where is it going to mount and be removable to allow operation of the soft/hard top? If a top manufacturer was ever to make a soft top replacement that removed the targa section it would open some possibilities, but lets face it that will never happen because lets face it who would buy it?

thethingthatshouldnotbe 11-13-11 03:00 PM

Wish I had a cert. Id try it

thethingthatshouldnotbe 11-13-11 03:01 PM

Vert damn auto correct


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